State of North East Transport
State of North East Transport
(03 Jul 2023, 9:30 am)RMF1254 Fair enough, I am talking about my experience. I use Nexus timetables all the time alongside Bus Times and never seem to have a problem. A couple of examples mentioned, the 57 timetable shows the whole route and the 51 shows the whole timetable including the GNE evening journeys.
(03 Jul 2023, 1:45 pm)deanmachine I mean yeah, but it tells you to do some silly things. Like getting a bus 1 stop when it's just easier to walk. You can tell some of the foreign users who aren't familiar much with the area use google maps because you'll see them following it to the letter which isn't always the best way to get somewhere.
(03 Jul 2023, 3:04 pm)V514DFT Im concerned about the Metro, theyre getting new metros granted, but even with battery power aswell, i dont see 46 being enough, especially with all the proposed routes/extensions they want to do, they already upped it from 42 to 46, i know the layout is different on the 555's have 5 articulated sections rather than 4 (combined from 2 carriages), as for buses, i said it in another thread, it should always be seen as a "work in progress" rather than "that'll do", then operators moaning that "due to low passenger numbers" yeah, you have low passenger numbers cus you wont adapt properly, and use a model from the 1980's
(03 Jul 2023, 9:30 am)RMF1254 Fair enough, I am talking about my experience. I use Nexus timetables all the time alongside Bus Times and never seem to have a problem. A couple of examples mentioned, the 57 timetable shows the whole route and the 51 shows the whole timetable including the GNE evening journeys.
(03 Jul 2023, 1:45 pm)deanmachine I mean yeah, but it tells you to do some silly things. Like getting a bus 1 stop when it's just easier to walk. You can tell some of the foreign users who aren't familiar much with the area use google maps because you'll see them following it to the letter which isn't always the best way to get somewhere.
(03 Jul 2023, 3:04 pm)V514DFT Im concerned about the Metro, theyre getting new metros granted, but even with battery power aswell, i dont see 46 being enough, especially with all the proposed routes/extensions they want to do, they already upped it from 42 to 46, i know the layout is different on the 555's have 5 articulated sections rather than 4 (combined from 2 carriages), as for buses, i said it in another thread, it should always be seen as a "work in progress" rather than "that'll do", then operators moaning that "due to low passenger numbers" yeah, you have low passenger numbers cus you wont adapt properly, and use a model from the 1980's
(03 Jul 2023, 4:23 pm)Storx That must've changed relatively recently as last time I looked the timetables were all split by operator so stuff like the 29 you'd end up with 3 timetables. Complicated as an understatement.
Aye hopeless, I've found the same with Traveline aswell which is even worse, the idea of walking 200m is just alien and it comes up with some rather random routes as a result changing in totally inappropriate places.
Tbf it's quite an increase from now they've only got 35 operational units and that's when they're all on the tracks which they're not. Believe the current full daytime units is only 27 units or so, so there's a very lot of slack. If they can't operate that (will go upto 34 or so with the timetable increase) then there's something very wrong.
Mind hopefully the launch goes better than the Class 777's in Liverpool which are the same train thereabouts and having a bad time blighted with problems.
(03 Jul 2023, 4:23 pm)Storx That must've changed relatively recently as last time I looked the timetables were all split by operator so stuff like the 29 you'd end up with 3 timetables. Complicated as an understatement.
Aye hopeless, I've found the same with Traveline aswell which is even worse, the idea of walking 200m is just alien and it comes up with some rather random routes as a result changing in totally inappropriate places.
Tbf it's quite an increase from now they've only got 35 operational units and that's when they're all on the tracks which they're not. Believe the current full daytime units is only 27 units or so, so there's a very lot of slack. If they can't operate that (will go upto 34 or so with the timetable increase) then there's something very wrong.
Mind hopefully the launch goes better than the Class 777's in Liverpool which are the same train thereabouts and having a bad time blighted with problems.
(03 Jul 2023, 1:45 pm)deanmachine I mean yeah, but it tells you to do some silly things. Like getting a bus 1 stop when it's just easier to walk. You can tell some of the foreign users who aren't familiar much with the area use google maps because you'll see them following it to the letter which isn't always the best way to get somewhere.
(03 Jul 2023, 1:45 pm)deanmachine I mean yeah, but it tells you to do some silly things. Like getting a bus 1 stop when it's just easier to walk. You can tell some of the foreign users who aren't familiar much with the area use google maps because you'll see them following it to the letter which isn't always the best way to get somewhere.
(03 Jul 2023, 5:10 pm)V514DFT They've already started scrapping the old units, 4055 left last week after being out of action for quite some time, i suspect its been a parts donor, aswell as 4062 which were both residing in the centre in South Shields, so i expect that will go next, and most of us already know about 4022 which was uneconomical to repair after it derailed in the depot in 2017, i just wonder if its a little premature, 555001 and 555002 were sent back, and still havent arrived, so far they only have 555003/4/5 which are only in the testing phase
(03 Jul 2023, 5:10 pm)V514DFT They've already started scrapping the old units, 4055 left last week after being out of action for quite some time, i suspect its been a parts donor, aswell as 4062 which were both residing in the centre in South Shields, so i expect that will go next, and most of us already know about 4022 which was uneconomical to repair after it derailed in the depot in 2017, i just wonder if its a little premature, 555001 and 555002 were sent back, and still havent arrived, so far they only have 555003/4/5 which are only in the testing phase
(03 Jul 2023, 9:54 pm)idiot That's a lot of vandalised units.
(03 Jul 2023, 9:54 pm)idiot That's a lot of vandalised units.
It's knackered.
Well and truly knackered.
The infighting, the bickering, the politics, the self-preservation, the snideyness, the general incompetence, the lack of commercial awareness, the pigheadedness and the total failure to adapt (and there's probably a whole load of other terms that could be used) has all resulted in what we see now.
We've only got to say thank you to Covid, for speeding up the inevitable demise of public transport as we know it here in the North East.
I'd have been sacked if I was as bad in my job as some people involved in public transport are/have been in theirs.
I'd also be ashamed to have presided over or been involved in the mess.
More or less everything the 'naysayers' and 'bashers' on this forum have been bleating on about has proven true.
We've even seen fanatics and adorers comments change over the years.
The Gravy Train Express is slowly rolling in to Inevitable Demise Central, previously calling at Begging Bowl Town, Shareholder Parkway and Handout Junction. Having missed out Passenger Interest Interchange on the way.
