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Andreos1



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03 Nov 2023, 2:07 pm #21
(03 Nov 2023, 1:49 pm)idiot I really hope there not getting paid for this? All the timetables should have a symbol if any of the journey is subsidised in any part. Used to happen a few year ago why not now?

The clawback from GNE should be huge.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
03 Nov 2023, 2:07 pm #21

(03 Nov 2023, 1:49 pm)idiot I really hope there not getting paid for this? All the timetables should have a symbol if any of the journey is subsidised in any part. Used to happen a few year ago why not now?

The clawback from GNE should be huge.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Rob44



1,500
03 Nov 2023, 3:06 pm #22
GoNorthEast
1, 351, 353, 41/41A, 91, 57, 84, 85, 35, 35A, 39A, 39B, 79, 81, 82, 83, 93, 94, X30, X31, Q3, 5, 5A, 9, 24, 26, 50, 51, 52, 39, X45, 96, 49, 49A, 12, 47, 27, 10A, 8, 8A, 6, 15, 20, 34, 60, 65, 78, 16, 16A, Peterlee Locals, 28, 29, 61, 61A, V1, V2, V4, V5, X15, X72, Hexham Locals, AD122, 74

No 28b on that list?

TBH i surprised more of the evening stuff isnt on there. I've been getting the 27 after 8pm from outside the spoons in Gateshead ( handy) and there's never been more tha half dozen on. Same as x66 on evening a couple at most heading there and not many more heading back!
Rob44
03 Nov 2023, 3:06 pm #22

GoNorthEast
1, 351, 353, 41/41A, 91, 57, 84, 85, 35, 35A, 39A, 39B, 79, 81, 82, 83, 93, 94, X30, X31, Q3, 5, 5A, 9, 24, 26, 50, 51, 52, 39, X45, 96, 49, 49A, 12, 47, 27, 10A, 8, 8A, 6, 15, 20, 34, 60, 65, 78, 16, 16A, Peterlee Locals, 28, 29, 61, 61A, V1, V2, V4, V5, X15, X72, Hexham Locals, AD122, 74

No 28b on that list?

TBH i surprised more of the evening stuff isnt on there. I've been getting the 27 after 8pm from outside the spoons in Gateshead ( handy) and there's never been more tha half dozen on. Same as x66 on evening a couple at most heading there and not many more heading back!

Storx



4,584
03 Nov 2023, 7:38 pm #23
(03 Nov 2023, 1:49 pm)idiot I really hope there not getting paid for this? All the timetables should have a symbol if any of the journey is subsidised in any part. Used to happen a few year ago why not now?

They're getting money for something on all of them, what though is unknown could be just 1 early run etc.

(03 Nov 2023, 3:06 pm)Rob44 GoNorthEast
1, 351, 353, 41/41A, 91, 57, 84, 85, 35, 35A, 39A, 39B, 79, 81, 82, 83, 93, 94, X30, X31, Q3, 5, 5A, 9, 24, 26, 50, 51, 52, 39, X45, 96, 49, 49A, 12, 47, 27, 10A, 8, 8A, 6, 15, 20, 34, 60, 65, 78, 16, 16A, Peterlee Locals, 28, 29, 61, 61A, V1, V2, V4, V5, X15, X72, Hexham Locals, AD122, 74

No 28b on that list?

TBH i surprised  more of the evening stuff isnt on there.  I've been getting the 27 after 8pm from outside the spoons in Gateshead ( handy) and there's never been more tha half dozen on.  Same as x66 on evening a couple at most heading there and not many more heading back!

Really? I'm struggling of thinking of routes that aren't on there. 90% of the routes have to be there. The general idea though is you make money during the day, then they offset the evening services. Don't believe many actually make money but if you use the bus 10 times a week and 2 times is in the evening, cut them then they'd not use it all - that's the idea behind it.

Assume the 28B is just part of the 28/29 tender. The numbers were a bit off for the Durham ones, X20 still mentioned for Langley Park for example.
Storx
03 Nov 2023, 7:38 pm #23

(03 Nov 2023, 1:49 pm)idiot I really hope there not getting paid for this? All the timetables should have a symbol if any of the journey is subsidised in any part. Used to happen a few year ago why not now?

They're getting money for something on all of them, what though is unknown could be just 1 early run etc.

(03 Nov 2023, 3:06 pm)Rob44 GoNorthEast
1, 351, 353, 41/41A, 91, 57, 84, 85, 35, 35A, 39A, 39B, 79, 81, 82, 83, 93, 94, X30, X31, Q3, 5, 5A, 9, 24, 26, 50, 51, 52, 39, X45, 96, 49, 49A, 12, 47, 27, 10A, 8, 8A, 6, 15, 20, 34, 60, 65, 78, 16, 16A, Peterlee Locals, 28, 29, 61, 61A, V1, V2, V4, V5, X15, X72, Hexham Locals, AD122, 74

No 28b on that list?

TBH i surprised  more of the evening stuff isnt on there.  I've been getting the 27 after 8pm from outside the spoons in Gateshead ( handy) and there's never been more tha half dozen on.  Same as x66 on evening a couple at most heading there and not many more heading back!

Really? I'm struggling of thinking of routes that aren't on there. 90% of the routes have to be there. The general idea though is you make money during the day, then they offset the evening services. Don't believe many actually make money but if you use the bus 10 times a week and 2 times is in the evening, cut them then they'd not use it all - that's the idea behind it.

Assume the 28B is just part of the 28/29 tender. The numbers were a bit off for the Durham ones, X20 still mentioned for Langley Park for example.

Ambassador



1,855
03 Nov 2023, 8:44 pm #24
It would be interesting to see passenger numbers v investment,

I can’t see the TaxiBuses being anything but a massive drain

Wistfully stuck in the 90s
Ambassador
03 Nov 2023, 8:44 pm #24

It would be interesting to see passenger numbers v investment,

I can’t see the TaxiBuses being anything but a massive drain


Wistfully stuck in the 90s

Storx



4,584
03 Nov 2023, 9:28 pm #25
(03 Nov 2023, 8:44 pm)Ambassador It would be interesting to see passenger numbers v investment,

I can’t see the TaxiBuses being anything but a massive drain

Agreed there, the £800 a day on the W1/W2 which cart around fresh air most the time must be up there aswell.
Storx
03 Nov 2023, 9:28 pm #25

(03 Nov 2023, 8:44 pm)Ambassador It would be interesting to see passenger numbers v investment,

I can’t see the TaxiBuses being anything but a massive drain

Agreed there, the £800 a day on the W1/W2 which cart around fresh air most the time must be up there aswell.

Ambassador



1,855
03 Nov 2023, 11:53 pm #26
(03 Nov 2023, 9:28 pm)Storx Agreed there, the £800 a day on the W1/W2 which cart around fresh air most the time must be up there aswell.

I reckon you could just have a taxi on demand for the TB services and still save a fortune. Like the old dial a ride

Wistfully stuck in the 90s
Ambassador
03 Nov 2023, 11:53 pm #26

(03 Nov 2023, 9:28 pm)Storx Agreed there, the £800 a day on the W1/W2 which cart around fresh air most the time must be up there aswell.

I reckon you could just have a taxi on demand for the TB services and still save a fortune. Like the old dial a ride


Wistfully stuck in the 90s

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