Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions
Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions
(27 Sep 2013, 4:26 pm)Michael It won't but it was a good route the old 21 route used to use it all time.
(27 Sep 2013, 4:26 pm)Michael It won't but it was a good route the old 21 route used to use it all time.
(27 Sep 2013, 7:10 pm)cbma06 Yep, I used to use the service from Grindon and Thorney Close, years and years ago, a new gaffer started at the wheatsheaf and the person streamlined all the bus services, used to like getting on the 17,21,25 etc.., don't think there ever come back as stagecoach was doing cut backs and saving money at the time, Stagecoach are just content of having these bus services there got now, should run a service connecting Sunderland with Hartlepool, linking all the divisons up.
(27 Sep 2013, 7:10 pm)cbma06 Yep, I used to use the service from Grindon and Thorney Close, years and years ago, a new gaffer started at the wheatsheaf and the person streamlined all the bus services, used to like getting on the 17,21,25 etc.., don't think there ever come back as stagecoach was doing cut backs and saving money at the time, Stagecoach are just content of having these bus services there got now, should run a service connecting Sunderland with Hartlepool, linking all the divisons up.
I really think a Sunderland - Newcastle stagecoach bus would work - Offer a good deal
Sunderland mega rider - All Sunderland Services + E services + the X5 to Newcastle.. for example
Any idea of a route it could use?
I would leave it in stagecoach - Basically the X36 route till Downhill - ASDA - then follow the X34 route? - Hourly at first then - half hourly if it works out?
(27 Sep 2013, 7:51 pm)Michael I really think a Sunderland - Newcastle stagecoach bus would work - Offer a good deal
Sunderland mega rider - All Sunderland Services + E services + the X5 to Newcastle.. for example
Any idea of a route it could use?
I would leave it in stagecoach - Basically the X36 route till Downhill - ASDA - then follow the X34 route? - Hourly at first then - half hourly if it works out?
(27 Sep 2013, 7:51 pm)Michael I really think a Sunderland - Newcastle stagecoach bus would work - Offer a good deal
Sunderland mega rider - All Sunderland Services + E services + the X5 to Newcastle.. for example
Any idea of a route it could use?
I would leave it in stagecoach - Basically the X36 route till Downhill - ASDA - then follow the X34 route? - Hourly at first then - half hourly if it works out?
Right so as it's just being confirmed Sunderland are to get 23 more Gas buses on top of the 17 already confirmed.
Link here: https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/sy...-table.pdf - Bottom of the page.
My suggestions - Once all here =)
The first 17 will be going on the - These i note are Confirmed.
Service 16 - 10 PVR
Service 20 - 5 PVR
2 Spare - For re-fueling etc
Next 23 i think will end up on the (Not Confirmed for services)
Service 4 - 11 PVR
Service 10/11 - 10 PVR
All in Total -
36/40 would be out on the road - 4 spares (to take over for Re-fueling etc)
21 E200's..
Service 3 - 8 PVR
Service 5/5A - 3 PVR
Service 8 - 2 PVR
Service 23 - 8 PVR
Current E200 - 20 of them
Service 12 - 4 PVR
Service 13 - 11 PVR
Service 18/19 - 6 PVR + (1 Dart)
Spares will be all newer Man's.
Mark my words, ill be wrong haha
Just been looking back through the Quality Contracts Thread to find the post with all the Liveries etc which on Post 109 Page 11. And I noticed this.
Stagecoach in Newcastle Service 40 - Chapel House - Newcastle -
Byker - Walker - Wallsend, is in the same "Lot" as GNE Service 40 - Wallsend - Battle Hill - Hadrian Park.
So if Stagecoach for example were to Win Lot 1 if the Quality Contracts Scheme goes ahead could we then see the GNE 40 Scrapped and the Stagecoach 40 extended to Hadrian Park from Wallsend
(13 Oct 2013, 3:06 pm)Adam Malarkey Just been looking back through the Quality Contracts Thread to find the post with all the Liveries etc which on Post 109 Page 11. And I noticed this.
Stagecoach in Newcastle Service 40 - Chapel House - Newcastle -
Byker - Walker - Wallsend, is in the same "Lot" as GNE Service 40 - Wallsend - Battle Hill - Hadrian Park.
So if Stagecoach for example were to Win Lot 1 if the Quality Contracts Scheme goes ahead could we then see the GNE 40 Scrapped and the Stagecoach 40 extended to Hadrian Park from Wallsend
(13 Oct 2013, 3:06 pm)Adam Malarkey Just been looking back through the Quality Contracts Thread to find the post with all the Liveries etc which on Post 109 Page 11. And I noticed this.
Stagecoach in Newcastle Service 40 - Chapel House - Newcastle -
Byker - Walker - Wallsend, is in the same "Lot" as GNE Service 40 - Wallsend - Battle Hill - Hadrian Park.
So if Stagecoach for example were to Win Lot 1 if the Quality Contracts Scheme goes ahead could we then see the GNE 40 Scrapped and the Stagecoach 40 extended to Hadrian Park from Wallsend
(13 Oct 2013, 3:06 pm)Adam Malarkey Just been looking back through the Quality Contracts Thread to find the post with all the Liveries etc which on Post 109 Page 11. And I noticed this.
Stagecoach in Newcastle Service 40 - Chapel House - Newcastle -
Byker - Walker - Wallsend, is in the same "Lot" as GNE Service 40 - Wallsend - Battle Hill - Hadrian Park.
So if Stagecoach for example were to Win Lot 1 if the Quality Contracts Scheme goes ahead could we then see the GNE 40 Scrapped and the Stagecoach 40 extended to Hadrian Park from Wallsend
(13 Oct 2013, 3:06 pm)Adam Malarkey Just been looking back through the Quality Contracts Thread to find the post with all the Liveries etc which on Post 109 Page 11. And I noticed this.
Stagecoach in Newcastle Service 40 - Chapel House - Newcastle -
Byker - Walker - Wallsend, is in the same "Lot" as GNE Service 40 - Wallsend - Battle Hill - Hadrian Park.
So if Stagecoach for example were to Win Lot 1 if the Quality Contracts Scheme goes ahead could we then see the GNE 40 Scrapped and the Stagecoach 40 extended to Hadrian Park from Wallsend
(13 Oct 2013, 4:09 pm)cbma06 its just like the other allocated "lot" for Sunderland area, If GNE bids for the Sunderland "lot" then Stagecoach wont be running any bus services in Sunderland area, unless there bid for the works and scholars services.
if Stagecoach is unsuccessful for bids in Sunderland area then maybe the bus depot at Wheatsheaf will fall into the hands of the Council then go into the hands of GNE to run the Stagecoach bus service routes after the QCS comes into force.
Stagecoach wont be able to knock the Wheatsheaf depot down as you will need planning permission for this and I don't think the the council will be approving the demoltion of the depot, as the local councils are in favour of the QCS, and no house builders will not purchase the depot neither as there will know that there wont get permission to built homes on the land as yet again the council will not approve planning permission. (Same situation as the Vaux site when Tesco had planning permission turned down several times from the council).
(13 Oct 2013, 4:09 pm)cbma06 its just like the other allocated "lot" for Sunderland area, If GNE bids for the Sunderland "lot" then Stagecoach wont be running any bus services in Sunderland area, unless there bid for the works and scholars services.
if Stagecoach is unsuccessful for bids in Sunderland area then maybe the bus depot at Wheatsheaf will fall into the hands of the Council then go into the hands of GNE to run the Stagecoach bus service routes after the QCS comes into force.
Stagecoach wont be able to knock the Wheatsheaf depot down as you will need planning permission for this and I don't think the the council will be approving the demoltion of the depot, as the local councils are in favour of the QCS, and no house builders will not purchase the depot neither as there will know that there wont get permission to built homes on the land as yet again the council will not approve planning permission. (Same situation as the Vaux site when Tesco had planning permission turned down several times from the council).
(13 Oct 2013, 4:20 pm)Michael If it does go ahead, i do hope it doesn't, i want stagecoach to go for Lot 3 (My Area).
Stagecoach could run it with Gas buses and Enviro's alone. =D
Atm their are 260 Enviro's at Stagecoach North East (Not Including 12000)
We also have 40 Gas buses soon.
Stagecoach could also bid on some NEXUS/school contract's such as the 73 etc - They could use most of the spare enviro's on them services - all spares for the fleet would be enviro to.
Would be interesting to see what buses would run on what services?
(13 Oct 2013, 4:20 pm)Michael If it does go ahead, i do hope it doesn't, i want stagecoach to go for Lot 3 (My Area).
Stagecoach could run it with Gas buses and Enviro's alone. =D
Atm their are 260 Enviro's at Stagecoach North East (Not Including 12000)
We also have 40 Gas buses soon.
Stagecoach could also bid on some NEXUS/school contract's such as the 73 etc - They could use most of the spare enviro's on them services - all spares for the fleet would be enviro to.
Would be interesting to see what buses would run on what services?
You never know that maybe Arriva might bid on the Sunderland Lot, or even maybe FirstBus could bid on any of the lots that come available, if Firstbus have the buses to cover the services.
And maybe you might see boris buses doing the internal bus services inside of Newcastle lol lol.
Made a random list of where each bus could go If stagecoach got lot 3 what buses they could use:
2A/2C – 8 buses – 8 Gas buses
3 – 9 buses – E200
4 – 11 buses – E200
5/5A – 3 buses – E200
8/78/78A– 13 buses – E300
8 (Sta) – 2 buses – E200
9 – 4 buses – E200
10/11 – 10 buses – E200
12 – 4 buses – E200
13 – 11 buses – E200
16 – 10 buses – 10 Gas buses
18/19 – 6 buses – E200
20 – 5 buses – 5 Gas buses
20/20A/X20 – 12 buses – E400
21/N21 – 17 buses – E400H
23 – 8 buses – 8 gas buses
26/26A – 4 buses – E200
28/28A- 5 buses – E200
35/35A/B/C – 18 buses – E400
36 – 4 buses – E200
38 – 2? buses – E200
39 – 8 buses – E200
42 – 5 buses – Gas buses
43/44 – 14 buses - E400
45/46 – 9 buses - E400
50/50A – 6 buses – E400
56 – 16 buses – E400
60 – 8 buses – E200
61 – 5 buses – E200
71 – 2 buses – E200
99 – 2 buses – E200
X1 – 1 bus – E300
X3/ X36 – 5 buses? – E200
X25 – 5 buses – E400
X30/X31/X70/X71 – 9 buses – E400H
X35 – 6 buses – E300
X88 - 1 bus – E400
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10 Spare E400’s
2 Spare Gas buses
It's fun so don't take it serious
Would be interesting if Arriva did bid for LOT 3, would like to see Arriva running its home town services.
Yet to ride a Pulsar, Temsa or the Gas buses
It's ok if you live in Sunderland like Michael as you won't be affected that much if say Stagecoach were to win that lot of Services. But if you your me and your living in Washington you looking at Potentially 2 Operators operating the Local Services.
2A/2C – Lot 3
8 – Lot 3
50/50A – Lot 3
M1 – Lot 2
M2/M3 – Lot 2
W5/W6 – Lot 2
X1/X1A – Lot 2
X88 – Lot 3
And the only other Services I use are - X66 Lot 2 - 62/63 Lot 1 - 21 Lot 3 and 10 Lot 3. So really I'm in a Lose/Lose Situation when comes to the proposed changes. Only real bonus is I wouldn't have to change Operators when going to the Eye Infirmary in Sunderland.
(13 Oct 2013, 5:39 pm)Adam Malarkey It's ok if you live in Sunderland like Michael as you won't be affected that much if say Stagecoach were to win that lot of Services. But if you your me and your living in Washington you looking at Potentially 2 Operators operating the Local Services.
2A/2C – Lot 3
8 – Lot 3
50/50A – Lot 3
M1 – Lot 2
M2/M3 – Lot 2
W5/W6 – Lot 2
X1/X1A – Lot 2
X88 – Lot 3
And the only other Services I use are - X66 Lot 2 - 62/63 Lot 1 - 21 Lot 3 and 10 Lot 3. So really I'm in a Lose/Lose Situation when comes to the proposed changes. Only real bonus is I wouldn't have to change Operators when going to the Eye Infirmary in Sunderland.
(13 Oct 2013, 5:39 pm)Adam Malarkey It's ok if you live in Sunderland like Michael as you won't be affected that much if say Stagecoach were to win that lot of Services. But if you your me and your living in Washington you looking at Potentially 2 Operators operating the Local Services.
2A/2C – Lot 3
8 – Lot 3
50/50A – Lot 3
M1 – Lot 2
M2/M3 – Lot 2
W5/W6 – Lot 2
X1/X1A – Lot 2
X88 – Lot 3
And the only other Services I use are - X66 Lot 2 - 62/63 Lot 1 - 21 Lot 3 and 10 Lot 3. So really I'm in a Lose/Lose Situation when comes to the proposed changes. Only real bonus is I wouldn't have to change Operators when going to the Eye Infirmary in Sunderland.
(13 Oct 2013, 5:39 pm)Adam Malarkey It's ok if you live in Sunderland like Michael as you won't be affected that much if say Stagecoach were to win that lot of Services. But if you your me and your living in Washington you looking at Potentially 2 Operators operating the Local Services.
2A/2C – Lot 3
8 – Lot 3
50/50A – Lot 3
M1 – Lot 2
M2/M3 – Lot 2
W5/W6 – Lot 2
X1/X1A – Lot 2
X88 – Lot 3
And the only other Services I use are - X66 Lot 2 - 62/63 Lot 1 - 21 Lot 3 and 10 Lot 3. So really I'm in a Lose/Lose Situation when comes to the proposed changes. Only real bonus is I wouldn't have to change Operators when going to the Eye Infirmary in Sunderland.
(13 Oct 2013, 5:39 pm)Adam Malarkey It's ok if you live in Sunderland like Michael as you won't be affected that much if say Stagecoach were to win that lot of Services. But if you your me and your living in Washington you looking at Potentially 2 Operators operating the Local Services.
2A/2C – Lot 3
8 – Lot 3
50/50A – Lot 3
M1 – Lot 2
M2/M3 – Lot 2
W5/W6 – Lot 2
X1/X1A – Lot 2
X88 – Lot 3
And the only other Services I use are - X66 Lot 2 - 62/63 Lot 1 - 21 Lot 3 and 10 Lot 3. So really I'm in a Lose/Lose Situation when comes to the proposed changes. Only real bonus is I wouldn't have to change Operators when going to the Eye Infirmary in Sunderland.
What difference does it make if two (or three operators) have the contract across a particular area?
I'm not being flippant or trying to start an argument by any means, but as a customer you have one pass which entitles you to use whoever and as an enthusiast, a whole range of vehicles you may not get to ride normally.
(13 Oct 2013, 5:48 pm)Andreos1 What difference does it make if two (or three operators) have the contract across a particular area?
I'm not being flippant or trying to start an argument by any means, but as a customer you have one pass which entitles you to use whoever and as an enthusiast, a whole range of vehicles you may not get to ride normally.
(13 Oct 2013, 5:48 pm)Andreos1 What difference does it make if two (or three operators) have the contract across a particular area?
I'm not being flippant or trying to start an argument by any means, but as a customer you have one pass which entitles you to use whoever and as an enthusiast, a whole range of vehicles you may not get to ride normally.
