Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions
Stagecoach North East: Service Suggestions
When the new Roseden Way link road opens at Great Park, I'd suggest extending the X47 from Kingston Park to Wagonway Drive.
Just a small suggestion,some stops on Tynemouth Road are now no longer served at all,and elderly people in particular depnded on those services so maybe in the future
12-extends hourly to operate like this High Street East,Tynemouth Road,Howdon Lane,Bewick Road,Hadrian Road,Wallsend Interchange
(31 Mar 2022, 10:05 am)V514DFT Just a small suggestion,some stops on Tynemouth Road are now no longer served at all,and elderly people in particular depnded on those services so maybe in the future
12-extends hourly to operate like this High Street East,Tynemouth Road,Howdon Lane,Bewick Road,Hadrian Road,Wallsend Interchange
(31 Mar 2022, 10:05 am)V514DFT Just a small suggestion,some stops on Tynemouth Road are now no longer served at all,and elderly people in particular depnded on those services so maybe in the future
12-extends hourly to operate like this High Street East,Tynemouth Road,Howdon Lane,Bewick Road,Hadrian Road,Wallsend Interchange
(31 Mar 2022, 10:22 am)Thomas12 Good point but I would think the 18 would be a better option, as it would help to give Westbourne Avenue as service to Wallsend again. You couldn’t really extend the 12 hourly anyway as the timings wouldn’t work.Fair point,it would also give the 18 more of a purpose instead of just carrying fresh air,genuinely surprised the 18 has lasted this long
you could even extend the Q3 half hourly from St Peters and it would be easily doable with 2 buses. Would have to be Nexus funded I guess though.
(31 Mar 2022, 10:22 am)Thomas12 Good point but I would think the 18 would be a better option, as it would help to give Westbourne Avenue as service to Wallsend again. You couldn’t really extend the 12 hourly anyway as the timings wouldn’t work.Fair point,it would also give the 18 more of a purpose instead of just carrying fresh air,genuinely surprised the 18 has lasted this long
you could even extend the Q3 half hourly from St Peters and it would be easily doable with 2 buses. Would have to be Nexus funded I guess though.
(31 Mar 2022, 5:04 pm)V514DFT Fair point,it would also give the 18 more of a purpose instead of just carrying fresh air,genuinely surprised the 18 has lasted this long
(31 Mar 2022, 5:04 pm)V514DFT Fair point,it would also give the 18 more of a purpose instead of just carrying fresh air,genuinely surprised the 18 has lasted this long
New SC suggestion
X35
Newcastle
Gateshead
Non-Stop
Fellgate
John Reid Road
South Tyneside Hospital
Harton
Westoe
Chichester
South Shields
Marine Park& ocean beach fair
Every 30 mins
X36
Newcastle
Gateshead
Non-Stop
Boldon Asda
West Boldon
East Boldon
Cleadon
Harton
Westoe
South Shields
Marine Park & Ocean beach fair
Every 30 minutes
These services will provide an every 15 minute link with Newcastle & Gateshead with South Shields & Ocean beach fair
Aswell as this these buses will provide a new fast link by bus to Newcastle for Fellgate, East & West Boldon, Cleadon & South Tyneside Hospital.
Further more these services will terminate at Ocean beach fair to create a more direct route to the fair from Newcastle.
These services will interwork at both ends of the route.
These services will run on Sundays too with an hourly individual frequency & half hourly combined frequency
(05 Jun 2022, 3:26 pm)GNE6312 New SC suggestionNot sure on the links for Fellgate and East Boldon, the Metro has put paid to past services that have tried these such as the X3 and X36 from GNE.
X35
Newcastle
Gateshead
Non-Stop
Fellgate
John Reid Road
South Tyneside Hospital
Harton
Westoe
Chichester
South Shields
Marine Park& ocean beach fair
Every 30 mins
X36
Newcastle
Gateshead
Non-Stop
Boldon Asda
West Boldon
East Boldon
Cleadon
Harton
Westoe
South Shields
Marine Park & Ocean beach fair
Every 30 minutes
These services will provide an every 15 minute link with Newcastle & Gateshead with South Shields & Ocean beach fair
Aswell as this these buses will provide a new fast link by bus to Newcastle for Fellgate, East & West Boldon, Cleadon & South Tyneside Hospital.
Further more these services will terminate at Ocean beach fair to create a more direct route to the fair from Newcastle.
These services will interwork at both ends of the route.
These services will run on Sundays too with an hourly individual frequency & half hourly combined frequency
(05 Jun 2022, 3:26 pm)GNE6312 New SC suggestionNot sure on the links for Fellgate and East Boldon, the Metro has put paid to past services that have tried these such as the X3 and X36 from GNE.
X35
Newcastle
Gateshead
Non-Stop
Fellgate
John Reid Road
South Tyneside Hospital
Harton
Westoe
Chichester
South Shields
Marine Park& ocean beach fair
Every 30 mins
X36
Newcastle
Gateshead
Non-Stop
Boldon Asda
West Boldon
East Boldon
Cleadon
Harton
Westoe
South Shields
Marine Park & Ocean beach fair
Every 30 minutes
These services will provide an every 15 minute link with Newcastle & Gateshead with South Shields & Ocean beach fair
Aswell as this these buses will provide a new fast link by bus to Newcastle for Fellgate, East & West Boldon, Cleadon & South Tyneside Hospital.
Further more these services will terminate at Ocean beach fair to create a more direct route to the fair from Newcastle.
These services will interwork at both ends of the route.
These services will run on Sundays too with an hourly individual frequency & half hourly combined frequency
(05 Jun 2022, 4:27 pm)ifm001 Not sure on the links for Fellgate and East Boldon, the Metro has put paid to past services that have tried these such as the X3 and X36 from GNE.The problem Shields has is catchment, The X34 has Horsley Hill, Marsden, Harton/Cauldwell, Whiteleas, Biddick Hall and Boldon. You can't get much better coverage than that.
But I do agree that there needs to be an alternative to the Metro and the 27 from South Shields to Newcastle.
(05 Jun 2022, 4:27 pm)ifm001 Not sure on the links for Fellgate and East Boldon, the Metro has put paid to past services that have tried these such as the X3 and X36 from GNE.The problem Shields has is catchment, The X34 has Horsley Hill, Marsden, Harton/Cauldwell, Whiteleas, Biddick Hall and Boldon. You can't get much better coverage than that.
But I do agree that there needs to be an alternative to the Metro and the 27 from South Shields to Newcastle.
(06 Jun 2022, 7:48 am)Storx Don't get the obsession with trying to compete with the Metro which has no traffic issues and therefore a much more reliable service and even further is much quicker aswell.Suppose people outside of the area might. How many people know that explore tickets and ENCT passes can be used on the metro but not that many people do know that. Ideally you need what can cover Northern rail bus services and the metro at the moment nothing like that does actually exist so the buses in the summer months could actually work.
No-one bar people obsessed with buses would choose the bus.
(06 Jun 2022, 7:48 am)Storx Don't get the obsession with trying to compete with the Metro which has no traffic issues and therefore a much more reliable service and even further is much quicker aswell.Suppose people outside of the area might. How many people know that explore tickets and ENCT passes can be used on the metro but not that many people do know that. Ideally you need what can cover Northern rail bus services and the metro at the moment nothing like that does actually exist so the buses in the summer months could actually work.
No-one bar people obsessed with buses would choose the bus.
(06 Jun 2022, 7:48 am)Storx Don't get the obsession with trying to compete with the Metro which has no traffic issues and therefore a much more reliable service and even further is much quicker aswell.Is it about competing with the metro or offering some sort of alternative?
No-one bar people obsessed with buses would choose the bus.
(06 Jun 2022, 7:48 am)Storx Don't get the obsession with trying to compete with the Metro which has no traffic issues and therefore a much more reliable service and even further is much quicker aswell.Is it about competing with the metro or offering some sort of alternative?
No-one bar people obsessed with buses would choose the bus.
(06 Jun 2022, 11:05 am)Andreos1 Is it about competing with the metro or offering some sort of alternative?
The 27 is probably the only thing that could be classed as competing with the Metro on the southern side of the metro, but for sections of the route, doesn't. Hence it's appeal in certain areas.
But at the same time, not many will do point to point journeys and not many people are living in town centres nor want to be in them either.
A 15/20 min bus ride in to the town centre followed by another x number of mins on the metro could easily be counteracted by an alternative. Such as the X34.
(06 Jun 2022, 11:05 am)Andreos1 Is it about competing with the metro or offering some sort of alternative?
The 27 is probably the only thing that could be classed as competing with the Metro on the southern side of the metro, but for sections of the route, doesn't. Hence it's appeal in certain areas.
But at the same time, not many will do point to point journeys and not many people are living in town centres nor want to be in them either.
A 15/20 min bus ride in to the town centre followed by another x number of mins on the metro could easily be counteracted by an alternative. Such as the X34.
If either GNE or SNE were to divert an existing Sunderland service to serve Pallion, Millfield and The Hospital, which would be the best candidate?
(23 Jun 2023, 8:39 pm)ASX_Terranova If either GNE or SNE were to divert an existing Sunderland service to serve Pallion, Millfield and The Hospital, which would be the best candidate?
(23 Jun 2023, 8:39 pm)ASX_Terranova If either GNE or SNE were to divert an existing Sunderland service to serve Pallion, Millfield and The Hospital, which would be the best candidate?
(23 Jun 2023, 9:11 pm)Economic505 Chester Rd and Hylton Rd are already well served, and so is Pallion. Seems a waste of resources.
(23 Jun 2023, 9:11 pm)Economic505 Chester Rd and Hylton Rd are already well served, and so is Pallion. Seems a waste of resources.
(24 Jun 2023, 8:39 am)ASX_Terranova You currently have the 11, 99 and 935 for Pallion. None of those go into the retail park and the 11 is being changed soon. Would I be better off serving trimdon street before pallion.
(24 Jun 2023, 8:39 am)ASX_Terranova You currently have the 11, 99 and 935 for Pallion. None of those go into the retail park and the 11 is being changed soon. Would I be better off serving trimdon street before pallion.
(24 Jun 2023, 10:10 am)cbma06 This is what happens when bus companies are private bus companies and after dereg there can run there bus services on any route and timetables that suits them along there are registered to the traffic commissioners, it comes down to the local authorities to fund bus services which are deemed necessary, but since the budget for secured bus to the local authorities from the corrupt culprit government gets less each year and plus private bus companies are reducing there commercial services even more puts on even more strain for the local authorities to step in.
Service 11 used to go in Pallion retail park but the demand is not there no more and not viable to make profit for the big cats.
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(24 Jun 2023, 10:10 am)cbma06 This is what happens when bus companies are private bus companies and after dereg there can run there bus services on any route and timetables that suits them along there are registered to the traffic commissioners, it comes down to the local authorities to fund bus services which are deemed necessary, but since the budget for secured bus to the local authorities from the corrupt culprit government gets less each year and plus private bus companies are reducing there commercial services even more puts on even more strain for the local authorities to step in.
Service 11 used to go in Pallion retail park but the demand is not there no more and not viable to make profit for the big cats.
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(24 Jun 2023, 10:23 am)Michael I'm sure the 594 still goes down to the retail park?, I'm 50% sure the 18/19 went down at once point too.
(24 Jun 2023, 10:23 am)Michael I'm sure the 594 still goes down to the retail park?, I'm 50% sure the 18/19 went down at once point too.
Following on from my GNE express suggestions are there any routes where an express version might work where one doesn't already exist e.g. an 36X in Middlesbrough or a 40X in Newcastle
