Arriva North East: Service Suggestions
Arriva North East: Service Suggestions
Daytime journeys only, will work out evening and Sunday journeys another time:
X21 / X22 (PVR 15):
- X21 re-routed to serve the Hartlands rather than Nedderton.
- No route change to service X22
- X21 / X22 EXACTLY every 10 minutes between Bedlington Red Lion and Newcastle for most of the day.
- Up to 6x buses per hour from Ashington to Newcastle (7x including X20)
- Section of the X21 in it's current form between Bedlington and Fisher Lane replaced by NEW service 43.
42 (PVR 5):
- Replaces current 43 with NO route change.
- Frequency every 20 minutes between Newcastle and Cramlington continuing to Morpeth hourly.
43/44/45 (PVR 9):
- NEW 43 every 30 minutes serving same route as X21 between Bedlington Red Lion and Fisher Lane before serving Seaton Burn Front Street and continuing through Wideopen, Gosforth Park, Great North Road, Regent Centre, Gosforth and Newcastle. Journeys towards Bedlington Red Lion will operate clockwise via Glebe Road, Schalksmuhle Road and Vulcan Place and will call at the stop on Glebe Road.
- Services 44 / 45 remain in current form and with same frequency still offering up to 4x buses per hour between Dinnington and Newcastle.
- Services 42 / 43 offer up to 5x buses per hour between just after the Dudley Lane junction on the B1318 and Newcastle.
- Services 43 / 45 offer up to 4x buses per hour between the Travellers Rest and Newcastle.
- Services 42 / 43 / 45 offer up to 7x buses per hour between the Travellers Rest and Newcastle.
- Services 43 / 44 / 45 EXACTLY every 10 minutes between the bottom of Coach Lane and Newcastle for most of the day.
- Services 42 / 43 / 44 / 45 will offer up to 9x buses per hour between the bottom of Coach Lane and Newcastle.
Service 46 (PVR 5):
- Will operate every 20 minutes throughout whole route with no route change.
- Services 42/43/44/45/46 offer a bus up to every 5 minutes between Great North Road / Polwarth Drive roundabout and Newcastle for most of the day on top of the usual express services and more!
Current Total PVR's = 15(X21/X22), 11(43/44/45), 8(46) giving a full total of 34
New Total PVR's = 15(X21/X22), 5(42), 9(43/44/45), 5(46) giving a full total of 34 meaning NO PVR INCREASE!
(17 Feb 2016, 3:43 pm)2bagstew Wheatley Hill, Thornley and Shotton Colliery lost there links to Trimdom Sedgefield section.
Divert 21A Wingate A181 Thornley Crossways to Wheatley Hill front ST omitting Henderson Ave section to Shotton Colliery Terminate at the Peterlee bus station Opposite direction from Wingate normal route but terminate at Stockton Hight ST instead of Middlesbrough
(17 Feb 2016, 3:43 pm)2bagstew Wheatley Hill, Thornley and Shotton Colliery lost there links to Trimdom Sedgefield section.
Divert 21A Wingate A181 Thornley Crossways to Wheatley Hill front ST omitting Henderson Ave section to Shotton Colliery Terminate at the Peterlee bus station Opposite direction from Wingate normal route but terminate at Stockton Hight ST instead of Middlesbrough
Services X7/X8/X9/X10/X11/X14/X15/X16/X18/X20/X21/X22/X30:-
In Tyne and Wear, these services will be drop off only between Brunton Lane/South Gosforth and Newcastle Haymarket, and pick up only between Newcastle and Brunton Lane/South Gosforth.
DaveyBowyer's 42/43/44/45/46 idea would provide a bus every five minutes between Polworth Drive and the Haymarket, meaning that there is no need for the express services to stop at these places and pick up people which causes delays when a bus is held at a bus stop and can't get out due to traffic.
This will ultimately increase reliability slightly and will also take off the pressure of these services on match days, where most passengers are travelling to the Gosforth area meaning more seats are available for passengers travelling to Northumberland.
Service 821 should be reinstated between Stakeford and Bedlington Station and run twice to Bedlington Station in the morning and twice returning to Half Moon in the afternoon. How Arriva have got away with pulling the 821 is beyond me, as passengers are often left to the brunt of small fights, shouting and litter when the schoolkids board.
(01 Mar 2016, 6:35 pm)GX03 SVC Service 821 should be reinstated between Stakeford and Bedlington Station and run twice to Bedlington Station in the morning and twice returning to Half Moon in the afternoon. How Arriva have got away with pulling the 821 is beyond me, as passengers are often left to the brunt of small fights, shouting and litter when the schoolkids board.
(01 Mar 2016, 6:35 pm)GX03 SVC Service 821 should be reinstated between Stakeford and Bedlington Station and run twice to Bedlington Station in the morning and twice returning to Half Moon in the afternoon. How Arriva have got away with pulling the 821 is beyond me, as passengers are often left to the brunt of small fights, shouting and litter when the schoolkids board.
(01 Mar 2016, 6:35 pm)GX03 SVC Service 821 should be reinstated between Stakeford and Bedlington Station and run twice to Bedlington Station in the morning and twice returning to Half Moon in the afternoon. How Arriva have got away with pulling the 821 is beyond me, as passengers are often left to the brunt of small fights, shouting and litter when the schoolkids board.
(01 Mar 2016, 6:35 pm)GX03 SVC Service 821 should be reinstated between Stakeford and Bedlington Station and run twice to Bedlington Station in the morning and twice returning to Half Moon in the afternoon. How Arriva have got away with pulling the 821 is beyond me, as passengers are often left to the brunt of small fights, shouting and litter when the schoolkids board.
(01 Mar 2016, 6:49 pm)RobinHood Presumably 'got away with it' as it wasn't a supported service? Lack of buses available to continue operating it I suspect.
(01 Mar 2016, 6:49 pm)RobinHood Presumably 'got away with it' as it wasn't a supported service? Lack of buses available to continue operating it I suspect.
(01 Mar 2016, 6:55 pm)mb134 I think, but I'm not sure on this, that the vehicle operating the 821 in the morning, went on to operate the 434 later on in the day. When GNE took it over, that's when it was withdrawn, as Ashington's PVR dropped one?
(01 Mar 2016, 6:55 pm)mb134 I think, but I'm not sure on this, that the vehicle operating the 821 in the morning, went on to operate the 434 later on in the day. When GNE took it over, that's when it was withdrawn, as Ashington's PVR dropped one?
(01 Mar 2016, 6:59 pm)GX03 SVC The vehicle that operated the 295 ran onto the 34. The 821 was standalone.
(01 Mar 2016, 6:59 pm)GX03 SVC The vehicle that operated the 295 ran onto the 34. The 821 was standalone.
With my place of work (Sitel) due to be moving from the Balliol Business Park over to the Quorum in the coming month or two, equaling 600+ Staff moving, it could mean a loss of passengers on the X7/X8, the suggestion is a simple one and have the X7/X8 serve the Quorum, otherwise the majority of passengers will simply get on the SNE X63.
Myself personally I get on whatever turns up first due to having a Network One Pass, but if the X7/X8 were not to serve to the Quorum in the future, then I would be getting on the X63 on a Permanent Basis, furthermore Greggs Bakers are also moving all of there Customer Service Sites off the Balliol to the Quorum as well, so yes the X7/X8 would lose quite a lot of passengers I would imagine if it did not serve the Quorum in the next few months.
(06 Mar 2016, 8:02 pm)Malarkey With my place of work (Sitel) due to be moving from the Balliol Business Park over to the Quorum in the coming month or two, equaling 600+ Staff moving, it could mean a loss of passengers on the X7/X8, the suggestion is a simple one and have the X7/X8 serve the Quorum, otherwise the majority of passengers will simply get on the SNE X63.
Myself personally I get on whatever turns up first due to having a Network One Pass, but if the X7/X8 were not to serve to the Quorum in the future, then I would be getting on the X63 on a Permanent Basis, furthermore Greggs Bakers are also moving all of there Customer Service Sites off the Balliol to the Quorum as well, so yes the X7/X8 would lose quite a lot of passengers I would imagine if it did not serve the Quorum in the next few months.
(06 Mar 2016, 8:02 pm)Malarkey With my place of work (Sitel) due to be moving from the Balliol Business Park over to the Quorum in the coming month or two, equaling 600+ Staff moving, it could mean a loss of passengers on the X7/X8, the suggestion is a simple one and have the X7/X8 serve the Quorum, otherwise the majority of passengers will simply get on the SNE X63.
Myself personally I get on whatever turns up first due to having a Network One Pass, but if the X7/X8 were not to serve to the Quorum in the future, then I would be getting on the X63 on a Permanent Basis, furthermore Greggs Bakers are also moving all of there Customer Service Sites off the Balliol to the Quorum as well, so yes the X7/X8 would lose quite a lot of passengers I would imagine if it did not serve the Quorum in the next few months.
(06 Mar 2016, 8:02 pm)Malarkey With my place of work (Sitel) due to be moving from the Balliol Business Park over to the Quorum in the coming month or two, equaling 600+ Staff moving, it could mean a loss of passengers on the X7/X8, the suggestion is a simple one and have the X7/X8 serve the Quorum, otherwise the majority of passengers will simply get on the SNE X63.
Myself personally I get on whatever turns up first due to having a Network One Pass, but if the X7/X8 were not to serve to the Quorum in the future, then I would be getting on the X63 on a Permanent Basis, furthermore Greggs Bakers are also moving all of there Customer Service Sites off the Balliol to the Quorum as well, so yes the X7/X8 would lose quite a lot of passengers I would imagine if it did not serve the Quorum in the next few months.
(06 Mar 2016, 8:02 pm)Malarkey With my place of work (Sitel) due to be moving from the Balliol Business Park over to the Quorum in the coming month or two, equaling 600+ Staff moving, it could mean a loss of passengers on the X7/X8, the suggestion is a simple one and have the X7/X8 serve the Quorum, otherwise the majority of passengers will simply get on the SNE X63.
Myself personally I get on whatever turns up first due to having a Network One Pass, but if the X7/X8 were not to serve to the Quorum in the future, then I would be getting on the X63 on a Permanent Basis, furthermore Greggs Bakers are also moving all of there Customer Service Sites off the Balliol to the Quorum as well, so yes the X7/X8 would lose quite a lot of passengers I would imagine if it did not serve the Quorum in the next few months.
(06 Mar 2016, 8:24 pm)DavidSBrough I would rather the X7/X8 only running slightly late than having it run really late due to running through Quorum because people can't be bothered to walk 2 minutes from the stop.
(06 Mar 2016, 8:24 pm)DavidSBrough I would rather the X7/X8 only running slightly late than having it run really late due to running through Quorum because people can't be bothered to walk 2 minutes from the stop.
(06 Mar 2016, 8:38 pm)Adrian I think I'd rather potential customers use my service, by ensuring that the supply meets the demand. It may only be a two minute walk, but there'll be plenty people wait for the Stagecoach bus coming into Quorum instead. This was indeed something raised by a few people when Arriva done the launch, and it's mainly due to pedestrians having to negotiate several sets of traffic light to get across.
The reliability issue is not enough resource in the timetable, not because it has to swing round Quorum.
(06 Mar 2016, 8:38 pm)Adrian I think I'd rather potential customers use my service, by ensuring that the supply meets the demand. It may only be a two minute walk, but there'll be plenty people wait for the Stagecoach bus coming into Quorum instead. This was indeed something raised by a few people when Arriva done the launch, and it's mainly due to pedestrians having to negotiate several sets of traffic light to get across.
The reliability issue is not enough resource in the timetable, not because it has to swing round Quorum.
(06 Mar 2016, 8:38 pm)Adrian I think I'd rather potential customers use my service, by ensuring that the supply meets the demand. It may only be a two minute walk, but there'll be plenty people wait for the Stagecoach bus coming into Quorum instead. This was indeed something raised by a few people when Arriva done the launch, and it's mainly due to pedestrians having to negotiate several sets of traffic light to get across.
The reliability issue is not enough resource in the timetable, not because it has to swing round Quorum.
(06 Mar 2016, 8:38 pm)Adrian I think I'd rather potential customers use my service, by ensuring that the supply meets the demand. It may only be a two minute walk, but there'll be plenty people wait for the Stagecoach bus coming into Quorum instead. This was indeed something raised by a few people when Arriva done the launch, and it's mainly due to pedestrians having to negotiate several sets of traffic light to get across.
The reliability issue is not enough resource in the timetable, not because it has to swing round Quorum.
Regarding the X7/X8, why not extend the 554 to Haymarket or have some equivalent shuttle service similar to the X6 to meet morning/evening demand inside the business parks?
I don't know about the X7, but I know the X8 already suffers huge delays (areas like Moor Farn roundabout near Annitsford and Cramlington serve as significant bottlenecks) at peak times to the extent that further extending the service without extra vehicles or timetable frequency would be a really bad idea.
(06 Mar 2016, 8:38 pm)Adrian I think I'd rather potential customers use my service, by ensuring that the supply meets the demand. It may only be a two minute walk, but there'll be plenty people wait for the Stagecoach bus coming into Quorum instead. This was indeed something raised by a few people when Arriva done the launch, and it's mainly due to pedestrians having to negotiate several sets of traffic light to get across.
The reliability issue is not enough resource in the timetable, not because it has to swing round Quorum.
(06 Mar 2016, 8:38 pm)Adrian I think I'd rather potential customers use my service, by ensuring that the supply meets the demand. It may only be a two minute walk, but there'll be plenty people wait for the Stagecoach bus coming into Quorum instead. This was indeed something raised by a few people when Arriva done the launch, and it's mainly due to pedestrians having to negotiate several sets of traffic light to get across.
The reliability issue is not enough resource in the timetable, not because it has to swing round Quorum.
(08 Mar 2016, 7:43 pm)X8X9X10 The X7/X8 don't exist to cater to the every whim of Quorum workers though. Creating further delays and elongated timetabling would just result in passengers already on the services from Blyth, Cramlington and Seaton Sluice having their journeys take longer just because it would be slightly more convenient for Quorum.
(08 Mar 2016, 7:43 pm)X8X9X10 The X7/X8 don't exist to cater to the every whim of Quorum workers though. Creating further delays and elongated timetabling would just result in passengers already on the services from Blyth, Cramlington and Seaton Sluice having their journeys take longer just because it would be slightly more convenient for Quorum.