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27 Mar 2016, 9:48 pm #701
(27 Mar 2016, 8:52 pm)GX03 SVC Newcastle Airport-Morpeth was poorly used on the 100. I can't see it making a comeback. 

What MPDs are available like? Only got five at Ashington, 4 on the 57s and one spare.

Wasnt the 100 a collage service

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27 Mar 2016, 9:48 pm #701

(27 Mar 2016, 8:52 pm)GX03 SVC Newcastle Airport-Morpeth was poorly used on the 100. I can't see it making a comeback. 

What MPDs are available like? Only got five at Ashington, 4 on the 57s and one spare.

Wasnt the 100 a collage service


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27 Mar 2016, 10:37 pm #702
(27 Mar 2016, 9:48 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com Wasnt the 100 a collage service

Yes, but it was open to the public. It used to run from Ashington College to Kirkley Hall Campus, then it got cut between Morpeth and Kirkley Hall with connections to service 35, then it interworked with the 35 and was extended to Cramlington via Blagdon and also went to Blyth at peak times.

It was withdrawn last year.
Edited 27 Mar 2016, 10:38 pm by omnicity4659.
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27 Mar 2016, 10:37 pm #702

(27 Mar 2016, 9:48 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com Wasnt the 100 a collage service

Yes, but it was open to the public. It used to run from Ashington College to Kirkley Hall Campus, then it got cut between Morpeth and Kirkley Hall with connections to service 35, then it interworked with the 35 and was extended to Cramlington via Blagdon and also went to Blyth at peak times.

It was withdrawn last year.

27 Mar 2016, 10:44 pm #703
(27 Mar 2016, 10:37 pm)GX03 SVC Yes, but it was open to the public. It used to run from Ashington College to Kirkley Hall Campus, then it got cut between Morpeth and Kirkley Hall with connections to service 35, then it interworked with the 35 and was extended to Cramlington via Blagdon and also went to Blyth at peak times.

It was withdrawn last year.

Seen it once with 7492

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27 Mar 2016, 10:44 pm #703

(27 Mar 2016, 10:37 pm)GX03 SVC Yes, but it was open to the public. It used to run from Ashington College to Kirkley Hall Campus, then it got cut between Morpeth and Kirkley Hall with connections to service 35, then it interworked with the 35 and was extended to Cramlington via Blagdon and also went to Blyth at peak times.

It was withdrawn last year.

Seen it once with 7492


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28 Mar 2016, 3:11 pm #704
(27 Mar 2016, 9:21 pm)Lm2606 ooooh I remember the 101, Blyth - Newcastle Airport Big Grin

So, do I but it started at Kingston Park, not the Airport Wink
NK53 TKT
28 Mar 2016, 3:11 pm #704

(27 Mar 2016, 9:21 pm)Lm2606 ooooh I remember the 101, Blyth - Newcastle Airport Big Grin

So, do I but it started at Kingston Park, not the Airport Wink

04 Apr 2016, 8:35 pm #705
(27 Mar 2016, 8:39 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com Most areas not to sure so may not get it exactly wright.
X17. Newcastle -kingston park-Ponteland -morpeth-ashington -wansbeck hospital
Monday to sunday
Mon to sat every hour
Sunday every 2 hours
The whole route would take around 1 hour 25 mins so a bit longer than the x21.
This route will run to kingston park providing a link to northumberland then the 79 route this would mean more frequent service in morpeth the service will run direct to Ashington handy for commuters then down to wansbeck hospital with the service extending to the  hospital one 1 will ternamate at Ashington.
Mon to sat the service could be ran by ashington using mpds
Sunday jesmond could run it using a solo but interworking with another service.
With this service introduced the 1 will decrease by 1 vehcile
I could see some points as to why this would make sense to rival the metro. The 79 COULD be withdrawn. The alternative is it being every fifteen minutes using Pulsars between Newcastle and the Airport continueing hourly using MPDs freed up by the X16 changes to follow the rest of the route as far as Morpeth because as GX03 SVC will back me up the route between Morpeth and Ashington is to popular for MPDs and the roads between Ponteland and Morpeth on the 79 route are not suitable for vehicles above MPD size
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04 Apr 2016, 8:35 pm #705

(27 Mar 2016, 8:39 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com Most areas not to sure so may not get it exactly wright.
X17. Newcastle -kingston park-Ponteland -morpeth-ashington -wansbeck hospital
Monday to sunday
Mon to sat every hour
Sunday every 2 hours
The whole route would take around 1 hour 25 mins so a bit longer than the x21.
This route will run to kingston park providing a link to northumberland then the 79 route this would mean more frequent service in morpeth the service will run direct to Ashington handy for commuters then down to wansbeck hospital with the service extending to the  hospital one 1 will ternamate at Ashington.
Mon to sat the service could be ran by ashington using mpds
Sunday jesmond could run it using a solo but interworking with another service.
With this service introduced the 1 will decrease by 1 vehcile
I could see some points as to why this would make sense to rival the metro. The 79 COULD be withdrawn. The alternative is it being every fifteen minutes using Pulsars between Newcastle and the Airport continueing hourly using MPDs freed up by the X16 changes to follow the rest of the route as far as Morpeth because as GX03 SVC will back me up the route between Morpeth and Ashington is to popular for MPDs and the roads between Ponteland and Morpeth on the 79 route are not suitable for vehicles above MPD size

04 Apr 2016, 8:43 pm #706
(04 Apr 2016, 8:35 pm)NK53 TKT I could see some points as to why this would make sense to rival the metro. The 79 COULD be withdrawn. The alternative is it being every fifteen minutes using Pulsars between Newcastle and the Airport continueing hourly using MPDs freed up by the X16 changes to follow the rest of the route as far as Morpeth because as GX03 SVC will back me up the route between Morpeth and Ashington is to popular for MPDs and the roads between Ponteland and Morpeth on the 79 route are not suitable for vehicles above MPD size

I see your point but most people would use the metro or that stagecoach service that goes up to ponteland? Forgot the number

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04 Apr 2016, 8:43 pm #706

(04 Apr 2016, 8:35 pm)NK53 TKT I could see some points as to why this would make sense to rival the metro. The 79 COULD be withdrawn. The alternative is it being every fifteen minutes using Pulsars between Newcastle and the Airport continueing hourly using MPDs freed up by the X16 changes to follow the rest of the route as far as Morpeth because as GX03 SVC will back me up the route between Morpeth and Ashington is to popular for MPDs and the roads between Ponteland and Morpeth on the 79 route are not suitable for vehicles above MPD size

I see your point but most people would use the metro or that stagecoach service that goes up to ponteland? Forgot the number


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04 Apr 2016, 8:46 pm #707
(04 Apr 2016, 8:43 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com I see your point but most people would use the metro or that stagecoach service that goes up to ponteland? Forgot the number

The X78 serves Darras Hall and Ponteland every 30 minutes and doesn't actually serve the airport. They could also have the X17 as a MAX service to make it more appealing to the slightly better well off people of that part of Northumberland. The Pulsars could have luggage racks fitted as well
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04 Apr 2016, 8:46 pm #707

(04 Apr 2016, 8:43 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com I see your point but most people would use the metro or that stagecoach service that goes up to ponteland? Forgot the number

The X78 serves Darras Hall and Ponteland every 30 minutes and doesn't actually serve the airport. They could also have the X17 as a MAX service to make it more appealing to the slightly better well off people of that part of Northumberland. The Pulsars could have luggage racks fitted as well

04 Apr 2016, 8:56 pm #708
(04 Apr 2016, 8:46 pm)NK53 TKT The X78 serves Darras Hall and Ponteland every 30 minutes and doesn't actually serve the airport. They could also have the X17 as a MAX service to make it more appealing to the slightly better well off people of that part of Northumberland. The Pulsars could have luggage racks fitted as well
Big Grin
The 131 might compete especially with free sweets

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04 Apr 2016, 8:56 pm #708

(04 Apr 2016, 8:46 pm)NK53 TKT The X78 serves Darras Hall and Ponteland every 30 minutes and doesn't actually serve the airport. They could also have the X17 as a MAX service to make it more appealing to the slightly better well off people of that part of Northumberland. The Pulsars could have luggage racks fitted as well
Big Grin
The 131 might compete especially with free sweets


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04 Apr 2016, 8:57 pm #709
(04 Apr 2016, 8:56 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com Big Grin
The 131 might compete especially with free sweets

I don't like sweets
NK53 TKT
04 Apr 2016, 8:57 pm #709

(04 Apr 2016, 8:56 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com Big Grin
The 131 might compete especially with free sweets

I don't like sweets

04 Apr 2016, 8:58 pm #710
The Morpeth X17 could be scheduled to be departing exactly half an hour after the Morpeth 44
NK53 TKT
04 Apr 2016, 8:58 pm #710

The Morpeth X17 could be scheduled to be departing exactly half an hour after the Morpeth 44

04 Apr 2016, 9:10 pm #711
(04 Apr 2016, 8:57 pm)NK53 TKT I don't like sweets

I believe the driver wants to make every one cheerful for a journey to Jedburgh especially if the stuck on a solo

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04 Apr 2016, 9:10 pm #711

(04 Apr 2016, 8:57 pm)NK53 TKT I don't like sweets

I believe the driver wants to make every one cheerful for a journey to Jedburgh especially if the stuck on a solo


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04 Apr 2016, 9:23 pm #712
(04 Apr 2016, 8:58 pm)NK53 TKT The Morpeth X17 could be scheduled to be departing exactly half an hour after the Morpeth 44

Bus Services from Newcastle Airport could be like :

Arriva X17 could extend to Ashington if it used Pulsars.
Add that to diverting the X77/78/79 into the Airport and if they can the 74 too and then you have a better connected Airport.

Though diverting the above might need funding from the Airport.

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04 Apr 2016, 9:23 pm #712

(04 Apr 2016, 8:58 pm)NK53 TKT The Morpeth X17 could be scheduled to be departing exactly half an hour after the Morpeth 44

Bus Services from Newcastle Airport could be like :

Arriva X17 could extend to Ashington if it used Pulsars.
Add that to diverting the X77/78/79 into the Airport and if they can the 74 too and then you have a better connected Airport.

Though diverting the above might need funding from the Airport.


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04 Apr 2016, 9:30 pm #713
There was a regular TWPTE (Blue line? ) service that went to the airport years ago.
Really reaching in to the dark recesses here, but pretty sure it went via Fawdon to Kingston Park/Bank Foot, before scooting through Woolsington.

It wasn't very fast and the airport was quiet then.

It also didn't have the option of using the bypass (as it wasn't built!).

There is already a comprehensive service through the estates, maybe the route this X17 takes to the airport is the key?

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Andreos1
04 Apr 2016, 9:30 pm #713

There was a regular TWPTE (Blue line? ) service that went to the airport years ago.
Really reaching in to the dark recesses here, but pretty sure it went via Fawdon to Kingston Park/Bank Foot, before scooting through Woolsington.

It wasn't very fast and the airport was quiet then.

It also didn't have the option of using the bypass (as it wasn't built!).

There is already a comprehensive service through the estates, maybe the route this X17 takes to the airport is the key?


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04 Apr 2016, 9:39 pm #714
(04 Apr 2016, 9:30 pm)Andreos1 There was a regular TWPTE (Blue line? ) service that went to the airport years ago.
Really reaching in to the dark recesses here, but pretty sure it went via Fawdon to Kingston Park/Bank Foot, before scooting through Woolsington.

It wasn't very fast and the airport was quiet then.

It also didn't have the option of using the bypass (as it wasn't built!).

There is already a comprehensive service through the estates, maybe the route this X17 takes to the airport is the key?

Yeah there definitely was. Sure it was still going strong after the Metro extension too

Wistfully stuck in the 90s
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04 Apr 2016, 9:39 pm #714

(04 Apr 2016, 9:30 pm)Andreos1 There was a regular TWPTE (Blue line? ) service that went to the airport years ago.
Really reaching in to the dark recesses here, but pretty sure it went via Fawdon to Kingston Park/Bank Foot, before scooting through Woolsington.

It wasn't very fast and the airport was quiet then.

It also didn't have the option of using the bypass (as it wasn't built!).

There is already a comprehensive service through the estates, maybe the route this X17 takes to the airport is the key?

Yeah there definitely was. Sure it was still going strong after the Metro extension too


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04 Apr 2016, 9:40 pm #715
Could you run the service from the Airport to Morpeth straight along the A1?

I think a quick journey time would be key to getting passengers onto the service, instead of using a taxi.
mb134
04 Apr 2016, 9:40 pm #715

Could you run the service from the Airport to Morpeth straight along the A1?

I think a quick journey time would be key to getting passengers onto the service, instead of using a taxi.

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04 Apr 2016, 9:46 pm #716
The 77X, don't know much else about it

http://www.keithstransportpics.co.uk/Leyland-Buses.html#

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04 Apr 2016, 9:46 pm #716

The 77X, don't know much else about it

http://www.keithstransportpics.co.uk/Leyland-Buses.html#


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04 Apr 2016, 9:52 pm #717
(04 Apr 2016, 9:39 pm)Ambassador Yeah there definitely was. Sure it was still going strong after the Metro extension too

(04 Apr 2016, 9:46 pm)Ambassador The 77X, don't know much else about it

http://www.keithstransportpics.co.uk/Leyland-Buses.html#

I am sure Blue Bus Services or TWOC had a run to the airport too, using their Bristol's.
Edited 04 Apr 2016, 9:53 pm by Andreos1.

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04 Apr 2016, 9:52 pm #717

(04 Apr 2016, 9:39 pm)Ambassador Yeah there definitely was. Sure it was still going strong after the Metro extension too

(04 Apr 2016, 9:46 pm)Ambassador The 77X, don't know much else about it

http://www.keithstransportpics.co.uk/Leyland-Buses.html#

I am sure Blue Bus Services or TWOC had a run to the airport too, using their Bristol's.


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04 Apr 2016, 10:01 pm #718
(04 Apr 2016, 9:52 pm)Andreos1 I am sure Blue Bus Services or TWOC had a run to the airport too, using their Bristol's.

They did, they ran the 77X. Not sure why the 77 or Busways X77 kicked in

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04 Apr 2016, 10:01 pm #718

(04 Apr 2016, 9:52 pm)Andreos1 I am sure Blue Bus Services or TWOC had a run to the airport too, using their Bristol's.

They did, they ran the 77X. Not sure why the 77 or Busways X77 kicked in


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05 Apr 2016, 8:35 am #719
(04 Apr 2016, 9:23 pm)South Tyne Lad Bus Services from Newcastle Airport could be like :

Arriva X17 could extend to Ashington if it used Pulsars.
Add that to diverting the X77/78/79 into the Airport and if they can the 74 too and then you have a better connected Airport.

Though diverting the above might need funding from the Airport.

Well, the 74 runs through Westerrhope and Callerton not Newcastle Airport and is VERY infrequent and unreliable. 
Pulsars could not cope on some of the roads in places north of Ponteland such as Kirkley, Ogle, Whalton and Mitford and to be more popular instead of diverting to Bolam it could go through Tranwell.

MPDs could be freed up by the 57/57A receiving Streetlites to comply more with the tender saying the service needs a capacity of 36+.
A P.V.R of three MPDs and three Pulsars is necessary, 1 free Ashington MPDs could transfer to Jesmond for service 55 with the other being a MAX spare. 1 pulsar from the 55 is then freed and some cascades from Belmont with the 46 being MAXED could find other pulsars
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05 Apr 2016, 8:35 am #719

(04 Apr 2016, 9:23 pm)South Tyne Lad Bus Services from Newcastle Airport could be like :

Arriva X17 could extend to Ashington if it used Pulsars.
Add that to diverting the X77/78/79 into the Airport and if they can the 74 too and then you have a better connected Airport.

Though diverting the above might need funding from the Airport.

Well, the 74 runs through Westerrhope and Callerton not Newcastle Airport and is VERY infrequent and unreliable. 
Pulsars could not cope on some of the roads in places north of Ponteland such as Kirkley, Ogle, Whalton and Mitford and to be more popular instead of diverting to Bolam it could go through Tranwell.

MPDs could be freed up by the 57/57A receiving Streetlites to comply more with the tender saying the service needs a capacity of 36+.
A P.V.R of three MPDs and three Pulsars is necessary, 1 free Ashington MPDs could transfer to Jesmond for service 55 with the other being a MAX spare. 1 pulsar from the 55 is then freed and some cascades from Belmont with the 46 being MAXED could find other pulsars

20 May 2016, 6:24 pm #720
Service X5 Middlesbrough to Easington.

We have 4 service 5/5A Sapphire buses per hour running from Middlesbrough to Skelton all following the same route. At Skelton the 5A's divert to ASDA and finish in Brotton. The 5's run to Easington, one via Skinningrove and the other via Liverton Mines. Surely one of the 5's could run as an express X56, cutting down the journey time by 10 minutes into East Cleveland.

If one of the 5's ran via the X66 and limited stop to Guisborough [as the X93 does now] the journey would be 27 minutes -not 37 minutes. Then the new X5 could do both the Skinningrove and Liverton Mines detours- or have more lay-over time in Easington. The only passengers to miss out would be in North Ormesby and on Cargo Fleet Lane- which does have quite a few other buses.

I know the X5 has been tried before but the route via Marske was silly. Years ago the old X56 could do the route in an hour!  Perhaps a morning and evening trial to start with.
Michael Euston
20 May 2016, 6:24 pm #720

Service X5 Middlesbrough to Easington.

We have 4 service 5/5A Sapphire buses per hour running from Middlesbrough to Skelton all following the same route. At Skelton the 5A's divert to ASDA and finish in Brotton. The 5's run to Easington, one via Skinningrove and the other via Liverton Mines. Surely one of the 5's could run as an express X56, cutting down the journey time by 10 minutes into East Cleveland.

If one of the 5's ran via the X66 and limited stop to Guisborough [as the X93 does now] the journey would be 27 minutes -not 37 minutes. Then the new X5 could do both the Skinningrove and Liverton Mines detours- or have more lay-over time in Easington. The only passengers to miss out would be in North Ormesby and on Cargo Fleet Lane- which does have quite a few other buses.

I know the X5 has been tried before but the route via Marske was silly. Years ago the old X56 could do the route in an hour!  Perhaps a morning and evening trial to start with.

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