Arriva North East: Service Suggestions
Arriva North East: Service Suggestions
I'd like to see the X8 have some changes even just if it was to take away the X. Even then u have the X7/X8 follow each other after Annitsford anyway. Yea its a 30 min connection but you have other routes along that route that go the same/similar way
Stagecoach X63,62,Arriva,52,54 all after the Quorum. The X7/X8 seem an odd route. Especially going back to when Killingworth Road was getting done.
I don't and will not understand why the X8 had to serve the Quorum/BT Business Center yet the X7 went straight along after the Quorum straight past FLE as the X8 had to sever Longbenton. Whatever sense that was
Like does nobody on the X7 route between Blyth and Annitsford use the Quorum/BT area. If that's the case. Send it straight up and through Longbenton. But then that's just the 54
Plus the X7/X8 are becoming less and less of an express with two more stops been added after Camperdown and Quorum
Express part is Killingworth Road to Newcastle Barris Bridge and that's it.
53 to Blyth I'd personally like to see. Dudley area used to have tons of buses going to Blyth. One only being the X8 now as its hard for people who live in Dudley have to travel up to Cramlington to Change to X9/X10/X11/X8
I only done the 1 last week so can't say but it was an okay journey after the "Hype" I had riding it
I don't understand the X9 at all. What's it meant to be..another competition route of the X10/X11 of who can get to Cramlington/Blyth Faster so I'm all for the withdrawal of that route
X19 sounds like a really good route. It would make a quick link to Newcastle
(16 Jun 2021, 12:56 am)Micheal Aaron I'd like to see the X8 have some changes even just if it was to take away the X. Even then u have the X7/X8 follow each other after Annitsford anyway. Yea its a 30 min connection but you have other routes along that route that go the same/similar way53 went to Blyth before,it was then curtailed at Cramlington
Stagecoach X63,62,Arriva,52,54 all after the Quorum. The X7/X8 seem an odd route. Especially going back to when Killingworth Road was getting done.
I don't and will not understand why the X8 had to serve the Quorum/BT Business Center yet the X7 went straight along after the Quorum straight past FLE as the X8 had to sever Longbenton. Whatever sense that was
Like does nobody on the X7 route between Blyth and Annitsford use the Quorum/BT area. If that's the case. Send it straight up and through Longbenton. But then that's just the 54
Plus the X7/X8 are becoming less and less of an express with two more stops been added after Camperdown and Quorum
Express part is Killingworth Road to Newcastle Barris Bridge and that's it.
53 to Blyth I'd personally like to see. Dudley area used to have tons of buses going to Blyth. One only being the X8 now as its hard for people who live in Dudley have to travel up to Cramlington to Change to X9/X10/X11/X8
I only done the 1 last week so can't say but it was an okay journey after the "Hype" I had riding it
I don't understand the X9 at all. What's it meant to be..another competition route of the X10/X11 of who can get to Cramlington/Blyth Faster so I'm all for the withdrawal of that route
X19 sounds like a really good route. It would make a quick link to Newcastle
(16 Jun 2021, 12:56 am)Micheal Aaron I'd like to see the X8 have some changes even just if it was to take away the X. Even then u have the X7/X8 follow each other after Annitsford anyway. Yea its a 30 min connection but you have other routes along that route that go the same/similar way53 went to Blyth before,it was then curtailed at Cramlington
Stagecoach X63,62,Arriva,52,54 all after the Quorum. The X7/X8 seem an odd route. Especially going back to when Killingworth Road was getting done.
I don't and will not understand why the X8 had to serve the Quorum/BT Business Center yet the X7 went straight along after the Quorum straight past FLE as the X8 had to sever Longbenton. Whatever sense that was
Like does nobody on the X7 route between Blyth and Annitsford use the Quorum/BT area. If that's the case. Send it straight up and through Longbenton. But then that's just the 54
Plus the X7/X8 are becoming less and less of an express with two more stops been added after Camperdown and Quorum
Express part is Killingworth Road to Newcastle Barris Bridge and that's it.
53 to Blyth I'd personally like to see. Dudley area used to have tons of buses going to Blyth. One only being the X8 now as its hard for people who live in Dudley have to travel up to Cramlington to Change to X9/X10/X11/X8
I only done the 1 last week so can't say but it was an okay journey after the "Hype" I had riding it
I don't understand the X9 at all. What's it meant to be..another competition route of the X10/X11 of who can get to Cramlington/Blyth Faster so I'm all for the withdrawal of that route
X19 sounds like a really good route. It would make a quick link to Newcastle
(16 Jun 2021, 5:50 am)V514DFT 53 went to Blyth went before,it was then curtailed at Cramlington53 used to be Blyth to whitley Bay via Cramlington & Killingworth, from Cramlington it done the normal 53 route to new York then down to Whitley Bay via NT hospital. From Blyth it went around 1st, 2nd & 12th avenue, please road, Newsham black diamond, Delaval crescent, high pit & eventually Cramlington. Sure it took about 2 hours end to end or somewhere close to that so about 4-6 times longer than the 308 & 309 for the same journey. From what I recall it used a mix of MPDs and beavers.
(16 Jun 2021, 5:50 am)V514DFT 53 went to Blyth went before,it was then curtailed at Cramlington53 used to be Blyth to whitley Bay via Cramlington & Killingworth, from Cramlington it done the normal 53 route to new York then down to Whitley Bay via NT hospital. From Blyth it went around 1st, 2nd & 12th avenue, please road, Newsham black diamond, Delaval crescent, high pit & eventually Cramlington. Sure it took about 2 hours end to end or somewhere close to that so about 4-6 times longer than the 308 & 309 for the same journey. From what I recall it used a mix of MPDs and beavers.
(16 Jun 2021, 12:56 am)Micheal Aaron I don't understand the X9 at all. What's it meant to be..another competition route of the X10/X11 of who can get to Cramlington/Blyth Faster so I'm all for the withdrawal of that route
(16 Jun 2021, 12:56 am)Micheal Aaron I don't understand the X9 at all. What's it meant to be..another competition route of the X10/X11 of who can get to Cramlington/Blyth Faster so I'm all for the withdrawal of that route
(16 Jun 2021, 3:26 pm)GNE6312 53 used to be Blyth to whitley Bay via Cramlington & Killingworth, from Cramlington it done the normal 53 route to new York then down to Whitley Bay via NT hospital. From Blyth it went around 1st, 2nd & 12th avenue, please road, Newsham black diamond, Delaval crescent, high pit & eventually Cramlington. Sure it took about 2 hours end to end or somewhere close to that so about 4-6 times longer than the 308 & 309 for the same journey. From what I recall it used a mix of MPDs and beavers.I know,then it went to Renowns and ALX 300's when the 53A was introduced full time to North Shields,think at was at some point in 2012, but the 53 retained its route to Whitley Bay,both went as far as Cramlington, the 53 was the old 343 and 344,with the 343 going to Morpeth and 344 going as far as Cramlington,then it became its current setup (which is crap)
(16 Jun 2021, 3:26 pm)GNE6312 53 used to be Blyth to whitley Bay via Cramlington & Killingworth, from Cramlington it done the normal 53 route to new York then down to Whitley Bay via NT hospital. From Blyth it went around 1st, 2nd & 12th avenue, please road, Newsham black diamond, Delaval crescent, high pit & eventually Cramlington. Sure it took about 2 hours end to end or somewhere close to that so about 4-6 times longer than the 308 & 309 for the same journey. From what I recall it used a mix of MPDs and beavers.I know,then it went to Renowns and ALX 300's when the 53A was introduced full time to North Shields,think at was at some point in 2012, but the 53 retained its route to Whitley Bay,both went as far as Cramlington, the 53 was the old 343 and 344,with the 343 going to Morpeth and 344 going as far as Cramlington,then it became its current setup (which is crap)
I'd like to see Arriva run a service from Metrocentre to Wallsend and Cramlington/Whitley Bay. I'm surprised Arriva don't run a service in Wallsend Town Centre as they operate the 306/308 to Wallsend/Silverlink and operate services to Cramlington and Whitley Bay, same as GNE. Arriva could run a service from Wallsend/Battle Hill to Gosforth. The 553 should merge with the Q3, extending from Wallsend to Battle Hill and Freeman Hospital to Great Park, operated by GNE.
(08 Jul 2021, 8:26 pm)OrangeArrow49 I'd like to see Arriva run a service from Metrocentre to Wallsend and Cramlington/Whitley Bay. I'm surprised Arriva don't run a service in Wallsend Town Centre as they operate the 306/308 to Wallsend/Silverlink and operate services to Cramlington and Whitley Bay, same as GNE. Arriva could run a service from Wallsend/Battle Hill to Gosforth. The 553 should merge with the Q3, extending from Wallsend to Battle Hill and Freeman Hospital to Great Park, operated by GNE.They used to operate the 337 that ran from wallsend to whitley bay. Was that popular.
(08 Jul 2021, 8:26 pm)OrangeArrow49 I'd like to see Arriva run a service from Metrocentre to Wallsend and Cramlington/Whitley Bay. I'm surprised Arriva don't run a service in Wallsend Town Centre as they operate the 306/308 to Wallsend/Silverlink and operate services to Cramlington and Whitley Bay, same as GNE. Arriva could run a service from Wallsend/Battle Hill to Gosforth. The 553 should merge with the Q3, extending from Wallsend to Battle Hill and Freeman Hospital to Great Park, operated by GNE.They used to operate the 337 that ran from wallsend to whitley bay. Was that popular.
(08 Jul 2021, 8:26 pm)OrangeArrow49 I'd like to see Arriva run a service from Metrocentre to Wallsend and Cramlington/Whitley Bay. I'm surprised Arriva don't run a service in Wallsend Town Centre as they operate the 306/308 to Wallsend/Silverlink and operate services to Cramlington and Whitley Bay, same as GNE. Arriva could run a service from Wallsend/Battle Hill to Gosforth. The 553 should merge with the Q3, extending from Wallsend to Battle Hill and Freeman Hospital to Great Park, operated by GNE.The 553 already operates from Battle Hill to the Freeman Hospital and Regent Centre via Wallsend Town Centre.
(08 Jul 2021, 8:26 pm)OrangeArrow49 I'd like to see Arriva run a service from Metrocentre to Wallsend and Cramlington/Whitley Bay. I'm surprised Arriva don't run a service in Wallsend Town Centre as they operate the 306/308 to Wallsend/Silverlink and operate services to Cramlington and Whitley Bay, same as GNE. Arriva could run a service from Wallsend/Battle Hill to Gosforth. The 553 should merge with the Q3, extending from Wallsend to Battle Hill and Freeman Hospital to Great Park, operated by GNE.The 553 already operates from Battle Hill to the Freeman Hospital and Regent Centre via Wallsend Town Centre.
(08 Jul 2021, 8:26 pm)OrangeArrow49 I'd like to see Arriva run a service from Metrocentre to Wallsend and Cramlington/Whitley Bay. I'm surprised Arriva don't run a service in Wallsend Town Centre as they operate the 306/308 to Wallsend/Silverlink and operate services to Cramlington and Whitley Bay, same as GNE. Arriva could run a service from Wallsend/Battle Hill to Gosforth. The 553 should merge with the Q3, extending from Wallsend to Battle Hill and Freeman Hospital to Great Park, operated by GNE.
(08 Jul 2021, 8:26 pm)OrangeArrow49 I'd like to see Arriva run a service from Metrocentre to Wallsend and Cramlington/Whitley Bay. I'm surprised Arriva don't run a service in Wallsend Town Centre as they operate the 306/308 to Wallsend/Silverlink and operate services to Cramlington and Whitley Bay, same as GNE. Arriva could run a service from Wallsend/Battle Hill to Gosforth. The 553 should merge with the Q3, extending from Wallsend to Battle Hill and Freeman Hospital to Great Park, operated by GNE.
First suggestion:
X30 made to run every 30 minutes all day including the Bebside extension, this will also be numbered to X12 to be in line with the other Blyth to Newcastle expresses so it goes X7-X12
To try ease delays on the expresses I'm proposing an additional 2 routes out of Newcastle for the expresses which will see a split.
Services X9: Stick to current route
X10, X20, X21, X18, X14 : Rerouted between Newcastle & the first stop after the A19 via the following route: via St Thomas Street, Queen Victoria Road, Claremont Road, A167, A167 (Ponteland RD) & Exit the A1 on junction 77 then via the A1 to the normal route it will operate via the same route in both directions
Buses will serve all stops on the new route (however will not serve moorhead towards Newcastle)
X11, X15, X22, X12 (X30) : Rerouted via: via St Thomas Street, Queen Victoria Road, Claremont Road, A167, Stamfordham Road then access the A1 from junction 76 then normal route from the A1
Buses will operate this route in both directions
Buses will serve all stops on the new route (however will not serve moorhead towards Newcastle)
(21 Jul 2021, 10:35 pm)GNE6312 First suggestion:
X30 made to run every 30 minutes all day including the Bebside extension, this will also be numbered to X12 to be in line with the other Blyth to Newcastle expresses so it goes X7-X12
To try ease delays on the expresses I'm proposing an additional 2 routes out of Newcastle for the expresses which will see a split.
Services X9: Stick to current route
X10, X20, X21, X18, X14 : Rerouted between Newcastle & the first stop after the A19 via the following route: via St Thomas Street, Queen Victoria Road, Claremont Road, A167, A167 (Ponteland RD) & Exit the A1 on junction 77 then via the A1 to the normal route it will operate via the same route in both directions
Buses will serve all stops on the new route (however will not serve moorhead towards Newcastle)
X11, X15, X22, X12 (X30) : Rerouted via: via St Thomas Street, Queen Victoria Road, Claremont Road, A167, Stamfordham Road then access the A1 from junction 76 then normal route from the A1
Buses will operate this route in both directions
Buses will serve all stops on the new route (however will not serve moorhead towards Newcastle)
(21 Jul 2021, 10:35 pm)GNE6312 First suggestion:
X30 made to run every 30 minutes all day including the Bebside extension, this will also be numbered to X12 to be in line with the other Blyth to Newcastle expresses so it goes X7-X12
To try ease delays on the expresses I'm proposing an additional 2 routes out of Newcastle for the expresses which will see a split.
Services X9: Stick to current route
X10, X20, X21, X18, X14 : Rerouted between Newcastle & the first stop after the A19 via the following route: via St Thomas Street, Queen Victoria Road, Claremont Road, A167, A167 (Ponteland RD) & Exit the A1 on junction 77 then via the A1 to the normal route it will operate via the same route in both directions
Buses will serve all stops on the new route (however will not serve moorhead towards Newcastle)
X11, X15, X22, X12 (X30) : Rerouted via: via St Thomas Street, Queen Victoria Road, Claremont Road, A167, Stamfordham Road then access the A1 from junction 76 then normal route from the A1
Buses will operate this route in both directions
Buses will serve all stops on the new route (however will not serve moorhead towards Newcastle)
(21 Jul 2021, 10:47 pm)Storx The point of the expresses running through Gosforth is for a connection at the Regent Centre, if you don't want to serve anything you'd be better running the Blyth expresses via the X7/X8 route into Newcastle as it's the shortest route and you'd get stuck at Cowgate and on the A1 which are both bad at rush hour and no worse than the X7/X8 bottlenecks.I've been thinking about past suggestions I've made.
(21 Jul 2021, 10:47 pm)Storx The point of the expresses running through Gosforth is for a connection at the Regent Centre, if you don't want to serve anything you'd be better running the Blyth expresses via the X7/X8 route into Newcastle as it's the shortest route and you'd get stuck at Cowgate and on the A1 which are both bad at rush hour and no worse than the X7/X8 bottlenecks.I've been thinking about past suggestions I've made.
(10 Aug 2021, 7:39 pm)V514DFT Been thinking is there anything the X14 could be merged with or give it a better destination,i know there used to be a 14 that went to where the current X14 goes to from MorpethCould merge it with the phoenix 15 to extend to Alnwick and have another common point with the X15/X18 aswell as create new links and reinstate lost links, could even interwork it with one of the X15, X18 or X20 at Alnwick.
(10 Aug 2021, 7:39 pm)V514DFT Been thinking is there anything the X14 could be merged with or give it a better destination,i know there used to be a 14 that went to where the current X14 goes to from MorpethCould merge it with the phoenix 15 to extend to Alnwick and have another common point with the X15/X18 aswell as create new links and reinstate lost links, could even interwork it with one of the X15, X18 or X20 at Alnwick.
(10 Aug 2021, 7:39 pm)V514DFT Been thinking is there anything the X14 could be merged with or give it a better destination,i know there used to be a 14 that went to where the current X14 goes to from Morpeth
(10 Aug 2021, 7:39 pm)V514DFT Been thinking is there anything the X14 could be merged with or give it a better destination,i know there used to be a 14 that went to where the current X14 goes to from Morpeth
Ashington
X21:
- Same route as present between Newbiggin Cresswell Arms and Bedlington Front Street West then same route as current X22 between Bedlington Front Street West and Newcastle.
- Every 30 minutes between Newcastle and Ashington continuing hourly to Newbiggin.
X22:
- Same route as present between Ashington and West Ford Road then same route as revised X21 between Stakeford Half Moon and Newcastle.
- Every 30 minutes combining up to every 15 minutes with X21 along common sections of route.
57/57A:
- Both routes unchanged between Cramlington and Whitley Bay. Evening and Sunday 57A will no longer extend to North Shields.
- 57A extended to Ashington.
- Both services between Ashington and Cramlington will operate via the current 57 route to West Ford Road. From there, will then follow the current X22 route via Wansbeck Estate and Guide Post to Bedlington Front Street West. From Bedlington Front Street West, will continue to Cramlington but operate via Nedderton instead of the Hartlands.
X20:
- Will omit Gosforth Regent Centre and Gosforth High Street; instead running via Eastfield, High Pit and Annitsford. This will partially replace services X8 & current X9.
X19:
- Will operate from Newbiggin Cresswell Arms via Woodhorn to Wansbeck Hospital and then follow the same route as service X20 to Newcastle.
- Every 60 minutes combining up to every 30 minutes with X20 along common sections of route.
35:
- Will operate between Newbiggin Seacrest Road and Morpeth only.
- Every 20 minutes using single deckers.
X14/X15/X18:
- Will all be re-timed to form a common 20 minute frequency between Morpeth and Newcastle.
Blyth
X7:
- Revised to operate every 20 minutes.
X8:
- Withdrawn and replaced in parts by 43A, X7, new X9 and X19/X20.
Current X9:
- Withdrawn and replaced in parts by 43A and X19/X20.
New X9:
- Same route as current X8 between Blyth and Cramlington then same route as X10/X11 to Newcastle.
- Every 30 minutes combining up to every 10 minutes with X10/X11 along common sections of route.
X10/X11:
- Both reduced to every 30 minutes each.
2:
- Extended to Kirkhill to replace X16
308:
- Revised to operate every 20 minutes and will interwork with service 306; both being jointly operated by Blyth & Jesmond.
Jesmond
306:
- Revised to operate every 20 minutes and will interwork with service 308; both being jointly operated by Blyth & Jesmond.
- Will omit Battle Hill Drive to create a simple 10 minute common combined frequency with service 308 between Billy Mill and Newcastle.
- Will no longer operate between Tynemouth and Whitley Bay. Marden Estate served by revised and extended service 51A.
51A:
- Extended from Holystone Park to Marden Estate via Northumberland Park Metro, New York Road, Murton Village, Rake Lane and Preston Grange Morrisons. Will also replaced Nexus tendered service 359.
43:
- Revised to operate every 30 minutes between Newcastle and Cramlington continuing hourly to Morpeth. Will combine with new service 43A to provide a 15 minute frequency between Newcastle and Seaton Burn Bridge Street. No changes to 44 and 45.
43A:
- Same route as 43 between Newcastle and Seaton Burn Bridge Street. Then via Seaton Burn Front Street, A1068, A1172 and Station Road to Dudley Lane. From there, will follow same route as current X8 to Village Road via Dudley Lane and Northumbrian Road then same route as current X9 to Blyth.
- Will operate every 30 minutes between Newcastle and Cramlington continuing hourly to Blyth.
Fleet suggestions for above changes (deckers now for 35)
New vehicles:
- 6x Scania N250UD ADL E400MMC 10.9M - X18
- 4x Scania N250UD ADL E400MMC 10.9M - X15
- 4x Scania N250UD ADL E400MMC 10.9M - X20
- 6x Scania N250UD ADL E400MMC 10.9M - X93/X94
- 3x Scania N250UD ADL E400MMC 10.9M - Ashington Spare
- 12x Dennis Trident 2 ADL E400MMC ZF S/S 10.9M - X19/X21/X22
- 13x Dennis Trident 2 ADL E400MMC ZF S/S 10.9M - X9/X10/X11
- 2x Dennis Trident 2 ADL E400MMC ZF S/S 10.9M - 306/308 (Blyth)
- 2x Dennis Trident 2 ADL E400MMC ZF S/S 10.9M - Blyth spare
Cascades:
- 7541-47 - 306/308 (Jesmond)
- 7548 - Jesmond Spare
- 7549-52 - 306/308 (Blyth)
- 7522-28 - X7 after refurb (7523 would need replacing at Belmont?)
- 7529-33 & 7553-56 - 43/43A
- 7628-32 - 44/45
- 7633-37 - 35
- 7401-03 - X14
- 7404-06 - Ashington / Redcar (Whitby) floats
NK61*** VDL DB300s from Blyth replace older miscellaneous deckers
My suggestion is to have the X30 run every 30 mins mon-sat through the day and hourly on a Sunday & evenings via the current route for the full route (Bebside to Newcastle) this gives Cowpen, Blyth town centre & Newsham a quicker bus to Newcastle twice an hour mon-sat and hourly on a Sunday & evening
(21 Aug 2021, 11:14 pm)GNE6312 My suggestion is to have the X30 run every 30 mins mon-sat through the day and hourly on a Sunday & evenings via the current route for the full route (Bebside to Newcastle) this gives Cowpen, Blyth town centre & Newsham a quicker bus to Newcastle twice an hour mon-sat and hourly on a Sunday & eveningI'd say hourly would be enough but definitely an evening & Sunday service though.
(21 Aug 2021, 11:14 pm)GNE6312 My suggestion is to have the X30 run every 30 mins mon-sat through the day and hourly on a Sunday & evenings via the current route for the full route (Bebside to Newcastle) this gives Cowpen, Blyth town centre & Newsham a quicker bus to Newcastle twice an hour mon-sat and hourly on a Sunday & eveningI'd say hourly would be enough but definitely an evening & Sunday service though.