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Michael



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29 May 2015, 5:34 pm #1,321
(29 May 2015, 5:30 pm)aureolin At least he can provide GNE's social media team with the hourly traffic reports throughout the strike action.

Defiantly see a few odd workings on those days...of course if it goes ahead.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
29 May 2015, 5:34 pm #1,321

(29 May 2015, 5:30 pm)aureolin At least he can provide GNE's social media team with the hourly traffic reports throughout the strike action.

Defiantly see a few odd workings on those days...of course if it goes ahead.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

29 May 2015, 6:13 pm #1,322
Got an email earlier today saying I was unsuccessful in gaining a place on the 40th anniversary jolly. Ah well!

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29 May 2015, 6:13 pm #1,322

Got an email earlier today saying I was unsuccessful in gaining a place on the 40th anniversary jolly. Ah well!


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Adrian



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29 May 2015, 6:26 pm #1,323
(29 May 2015, 6:13 pm)northern156 Got an email earlier today saying I was unsuccessful in gaining a place on the 40th anniversary jolly. Ah well!

Ditto.

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Adrian
29 May 2015, 6:26 pm #1,323

(29 May 2015, 6:13 pm)northern156 Got an email earlier today saying I was unsuccessful in gaining a place on the 40th anniversary jolly. Ah well!

Ditto.


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Andreos1



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29 May 2015, 6:48 pm #1,324
Finished with the line
Hope you all have a relaxing and chilled weekend.
?

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
29 May 2015, 6:48 pm #1,324

Finished with the line

Hope you all have a relaxing and chilled weekend.
?


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

29 May 2015, 7:04 pm #1,325
(29 May 2015, 6:48 pm)Andreos1 Finished with the line
?

No, I'm not having a relaxing and chilled weekend because my Metrocar is probably broken down near Pelaw...  Big Grin
omnicity4659
29 May 2015, 7:04 pm #1,325

(29 May 2015, 6:48 pm)Andreos1 Finished with the line
?

No, I'm not having a relaxing and chilled weekend because my Metrocar is probably broken down near Pelaw...  Big Grin

29 May 2015, 10:25 pm #1,326
(29 May 2015, 7:04 pm)Tommy_1581 No, I'm not having a relaxing and chilled weekend because my Metrocar is probably broken down near Pelaw...  Big Grin

Think that's the best thing I've read all week Big Grin

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29 May 2015, 10:25 pm #1,326

(29 May 2015, 7:04 pm)Tommy_1581 No, I'm not having a relaxing and chilled weekend because my Metrocar is probably broken down near Pelaw...  Big Grin

Think that's the best thing I've read all week Big Grin


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Adrian



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31 May 2015, 11:05 am #1,327
http://www.emma-lewell-buck.net/emma-wri...ro-delays/

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31 May 2015, 11:05 am #1,327

http://www.emma-lewell-buck.net/emma-wri...ro-delays/


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31 May 2015, 11:06 am #1,328
(31 May 2015, 11:05 am)aureolin http://www.emma-lewell-buck.net/emma-wri...ro-delays/

About time, something needs to be done!

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Michael
31 May 2015, 11:06 am #1,328

(31 May 2015, 11:05 am)aureolin http://www.emma-lewell-buck.net/emma-wri...ro-delays/

About time, something needs to be done!


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Andreos1



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31 May 2015, 6:06 pm #1,329
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nort...th-9363207

Details of the 40th anniversary trip

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
31 May 2015, 6:06 pm #1,329

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nort...th-9363207

Details of the 40th anniversary trip


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Dan

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31 May 2015, 6:15 pm #1,330
(31 May 2015, 6:06 pm)Andreos1 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nort...th-9363207

Details of the 40th anniversary trip

A question for anyone who can answer it which isn't relevant to the trip at all: with reference to the photograph in the article - is '4000' some sort of prototype model like 4001/02?

If so, if this Metrocar is still at the Stephenson Railway Museum as per the caption of the photo, why wasn't it retained in the fleet?
Dan
31 May 2015, 6:15 pm #1,330

(31 May 2015, 6:06 pm)Andreos1 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nort...th-9363207

Details of the 40th anniversary trip

A question for anyone who can answer it which isn't relevant to the trip at all: with reference to the photograph in the article - is '4000' some sort of prototype model like 4001/02?

If so, if this Metrocar is still at the Stephenson Railway Museum as per the caption of the photo, why wasn't it retained in the fleet?

31 May 2015, 6:18 pm #1,331
(31 May 2015, 6:15 pm)Dan A question for anyone who can answer it which isn't relevant to the trip at all: with reference to the photograph in the article - is '4000' some sort of prototype model like 4001/02?

If so, if this Metrocar is still at the Stephenson Railway Museum as per the caption of the photo, why wasn't it retained in the fleet?

4000 is a trailer which can be attached to a motor vehicle of some sort. Flickr user "metromadme" has various photos of the prototypes - I recommend that you have a look.
Edited 31 May 2015, 6:23 pm by omnicity4659.
omnicity4659
31 May 2015, 6:18 pm #1,331

(31 May 2015, 6:15 pm)Dan A question for anyone who can answer it which isn't relevant to the trip at all: with reference to the photograph in the article - is '4000' some sort of prototype model like 4001/02?

If so, if this Metrocar is still at the Stephenson Railway Museum as per the caption of the photo, why wasn't it retained in the fleet?

4000 is a trailer which can be attached to a motor vehicle of some sort. Flickr user "metromadme" has various photos of the prototypes - I recommend that you have a look.

Dan

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31 May 2015, 6:21 pm #1,332
(31 May 2015, 6:18 pm)Tommy_1581 4000 is a trailer which can be attached to a motor vehicle of some sort.

Ah, whoops!

Went on a Flickr hunt after posting, and found it wasn't a 'real' Metrocar.
https://flic.kr/p/nPVkXG

Fair to say if that pulled up at my local Metro station, I wouldn't be best pleased. Tongue 
Dan
31 May 2015, 6:21 pm #1,332

(31 May 2015, 6:18 pm)Tommy_1581 4000 is a trailer which can be attached to a motor vehicle of some sort.

Ah, whoops!

Went on a Flickr hunt after posting, and found it wasn't a 'real' Metrocar.
https://flic.kr/p/nPVkXG

Fair to say if that pulled up at my local Metro station, I wouldn't be best pleased. Tongue 

Adrian



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31 May 2015, 6:22 pm #1,333
(31 May 2015, 6:15 pm)Dan A question for anyone who can answer it which isn't relevant to the trip at all: with reference to the photograph in the article - is '4000' some sort of prototype model like 4001/02?

If so, if this Metrocar is still at the Stephenson Railway Museum as per the caption of the photo, why wasn't it retained in the fleet?

Pretty sure 4000 used to go to events and festivals, where kids could jump in the cab and such? I remember it being at the Kite Festival years ago... very early 90s at least. 

I think I asked on here before, and eezypeazy or perhaps Andreos1 knew quite a bit about it.

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Adrian
31 May 2015, 6:22 pm #1,333

(31 May 2015, 6:15 pm)Dan A question for anyone who can answer it which isn't relevant to the trip at all: with reference to the photograph in the article - is '4000' some sort of prototype model like 4001/02?

If so, if this Metrocar is still at the Stephenson Railway Museum as per the caption of the photo, why wasn't it retained in the fleet?

Pretty sure 4000 used to go to events and festivals, where kids could jump in the cab and such? I remember it being at the Kite Festival years ago... very early 90s at least. 

I think I asked on here before, and eezypeazy or perhaps Andreos1 knew quite a bit about it.


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Andreos1



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31 May 2015, 6:35 pm #1,334
(31 May 2015, 6:22 pm)aureolin Pretty sure 4000 used to go to events and festivals, where kids could jump in the cab and such? I remember it being at the Kite Festival years ago... very early 90s at least. 

I think I asked on here before, and eezypeazy or perhaps Andreos1 knew quite a bit about it.

You can't be getting eezypeazy and myself mixed up - surely? Wink

There was a mock up that was on display at places like the Garden Festival.
I actually mentioned the mock up at Stephenson Museum a few weeks back, thinking it was the same one, but had maybe been cut down in size.

Tommy said at the time, that the one at Stephenson was on the back of a trailer.
Whereas the one that was kicking about in the early 90's, would need more than a trailer hitched to the back of a car to shift it.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
31 May 2015, 6:35 pm #1,334

(31 May 2015, 6:22 pm)aureolin Pretty sure 4000 used to go to events and festivals, where kids could jump in the cab and such? I remember it being at the Kite Festival years ago... very early 90s at least. 

I think I asked on here before, and eezypeazy or perhaps Andreos1 knew quite a bit about it.

You can't be getting eezypeazy and myself mixed up - surely? Wink

There was a mock up that was on display at places like the Garden Festival.
I actually mentioned the mock up at Stephenson Museum a few weeks back, thinking it was the same one, but had maybe been cut down in size.

Tommy said at the time, that the one at Stephenson was on the back of a trailer.
Whereas the one that was kicking about in the early 90's, would need more than a trailer hitched to the back of a car to shift it.


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MurdnunoC



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31 May 2015, 6:46 pm #1,335
(31 May 2015, 6:35 pm)Andreos1 You can't be getting eezypeazy and myself mixed up - surely? Wink

There was a mock up that was on display at places like the Garden Festival.
I actually mentioned the mock up at Stephenson Museum a few weeks back, thinking it was the same one, but had maybe been cut down in size.

Tommy said at the time, that the one at Stephenson was on the back of a trailer.
Whereas the one that was kicking about in the early 90's, would need more than a trailer hitched to the back of a car to shift it.

There was also one based at the depot in South Gosforth.

I recall going to open days there as a bairn and playing with the controls in the cab. If memory serves it also doubled as pseudo-simulator where the driver encountered various hazards on route. I say 'pseudo-simulator' as in reality it was just a taped video played on loop. Now matter how good your reactions were, you still caused some accident. Most would fall for it first time round, but on either the second or third attempt the illusion was shattered. I was not impressed.

This might have been the one on display at the Garden Festival but I'm not 100% sure.
MurdnunoC
31 May 2015, 6:46 pm #1,335

(31 May 2015, 6:35 pm)Andreos1 You can't be getting eezypeazy and myself mixed up - surely? Wink

There was a mock up that was on display at places like the Garden Festival.
I actually mentioned the mock up at Stephenson Museum a few weeks back, thinking it was the same one, but had maybe been cut down in size.

Tommy said at the time, that the one at Stephenson was on the back of a trailer.
Whereas the one that was kicking about in the early 90's, would need more than a trailer hitched to the back of a car to shift it.

There was also one based at the depot in South Gosforth.

I recall going to open days there as a bairn and playing with the controls in the cab. If memory serves it also doubled as pseudo-simulator where the driver encountered various hazards on route. I say 'pseudo-simulator' as in reality it was just a taped video played on loop. Now matter how good your reactions were, you still caused some accident. Most would fall for it first time round, but on either the second or third attempt the illusion was shattered. I was not impressed.

This might have been the one on display at the Garden Festival but I'm not 100% sure.

Andreos1



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31 May 2015, 7:16 pm #1,336
(31 May 2015, 6:46 pm)MurdnunoC There was also one based at the depot in South Gosforth.

I recall going to open days there as a bairn and playing with the controls in the cab. If memory serves it also doubled as pseudo-simulator where the driver encountered various hazards on route. I say 'pseudo-simulator' as in reality it was just a taped video played on loop. Now matter how good your reactions were, you still caused some accident. Most would fall for it first time round, but on either the second or third attempt the illusion was shattered. I was not impressed.

This might have been the one on display at the Garden Festival but I'm not 100% sure.

Not sure whether the one at the Garden Festival had a simulator.

Spookily enough, it is 25 years since the festival opened.
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nort...25-9240847

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Andreos1
31 May 2015, 7:16 pm #1,336

(31 May 2015, 6:46 pm)MurdnunoC There was also one based at the depot in South Gosforth.

I recall going to open days there as a bairn and playing with the controls in the cab. If memory serves it also doubled as pseudo-simulator where the driver encountered various hazards on route. I say 'pseudo-simulator' as in reality it was just a taped video played on loop. Now matter how good your reactions were, you still caused some accident. Most would fall for it first time round, but on either the second or third attempt the illusion was shattered. I was not impressed.

This might have been the one on display at the Garden Festival but I'm not 100% sure.

Not sure whether the one at the Garden Festival had a simulator.

Spookily enough, it is 25 years since the festival opened.
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nort...25-9240847


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31 May 2015, 7:19 pm #1,337
There was a wooden mock-up from before construction started with seats and doors etc from the 1970s, I found this one - I don't know if this is "4000" https://www.flickr.com/photos/metromadme...319689652/
omnicity4659
31 May 2015, 7:19 pm #1,337

There was a wooden mock-up from before construction started with seats and doors etc from the 1970s, I found this one - I don't know if this is "4000" https://www.flickr.com/photos/metromadme...319689652/

MurdnunoC



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31 May 2015, 7:53 pm #1,338
(31 May 2015, 7:16 pm)Andreos1 Not sure whether the one at the Garden Festival had a simulator.

Spookily enough, it is 25 years since the festival opened.
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nort...25-9240847

What were your overall impressions of the Garden Festival? 

I thought it was quite impressive during the festivities, however, I thought they could've made some attempt at turning the festival (or at least some aspects of the festival) into a permanent tourist attraction. A lot of the site is now housing and some bits have still yet to be developed into anything. It may have brought tourists into Gateshead for 157 days; it may have encouraged more arts throughout Gateshead and the region; but after it ended, a lot of the hard-work went to waste as it essentially lay derelict for years after - the same as it did previously.
MurdnunoC
31 May 2015, 7:53 pm #1,338

(31 May 2015, 7:16 pm)Andreos1 Not sure whether the one at the Garden Festival had a simulator.

Spookily enough, it is 25 years since the festival opened.
http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nort...25-9240847

What were your overall impressions of the Garden Festival? 

I thought it was quite impressive during the festivities, however, I thought they could've made some attempt at turning the festival (or at least some aspects of the festival) into a permanent tourist attraction. A lot of the site is now housing and some bits have still yet to be developed into anything. It may have brought tourists into Gateshead for 157 days; it may have encouraged more arts throughout Gateshead and the region; but after it ended, a lot of the hard-work went to waste as it essentially lay derelict for years after - the same as it did previously.

Andreos1



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31 May 2015, 8:25 pm #1,339
(31 May 2015, 7:53 pm)MurdnunoC What were your overall impressions of the Garden Festival? 

I thought it was quite impressive during the festivities, however, I thought they could've made some attempt at turning the festival (or at least some aspects of the festival) into a permanent tourist attraction. A lot of the site is now housing and some bits have still yet to be developed into anything. It may have brought tourists into Gateshead for 157 days; it may have encouraged more arts throughout Gateshead and the region; but after it ended, a lot of the hard-work went to waste as it essentially lay derelict for years after - the same as it did previously.

I enjoyed the festival itself.
Went many times and always found something different.

Like you, I was disappointed the land itself wasn't looked after or turned into a permanent attraction.
Housing has been built - all be it quite a while after the initial phase at the top end of the valley (Norwood?), but when private finance was relied on in times of recession - it wasn't going to be an overnight sensation.
I often look in when passing some of the derelict areas of the site. The staithes' falling into disrepair and being left for so long, was disappointing too.

I didn't actually realise how much private money went into the scheme (until reading that Chronicle article).

In principle, a brilliant idea.
In reality, the outcome was slightly different.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
31 May 2015, 8:25 pm #1,339

(31 May 2015, 7:53 pm)MurdnunoC What were your overall impressions of the Garden Festival? 

I thought it was quite impressive during the festivities, however, I thought they could've made some attempt at turning the festival (or at least some aspects of the festival) into a permanent tourist attraction. A lot of the site is now housing and some bits have still yet to be developed into anything. It may have brought tourists into Gateshead for 157 days; it may have encouraged more arts throughout Gateshead and the region; but after it ended, a lot of the hard-work went to waste as it essentially lay derelict for years after - the same as it did previously.

I enjoyed the festival itself.
Went many times and always found something different.

Like you, I was disappointed the land itself wasn't looked after or turned into a permanent attraction.
Housing has been built - all be it quite a while after the initial phase at the top end of the valley (Norwood?), but when private finance was relied on in times of recession - it wasn't going to be an overnight sensation.
I often look in when passing some of the derelict areas of the site. The staithes' falling into disrepair and being left for so long, was disappointing too.

I didn't actually realise how much private money went into the scheme (until reading that Chronicle article).

In principle, a brilliant idea.
In reality, the outcome was slightly different.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

MurdnunoC



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31 May 2015, 8:48 pm #1,340
(31 May 2015, 8:25 pm)Andreos1 I enjoyed the festival itself.
Went many times and always found something different.

Like you, I was disappointed the land itself wasn't looked after or turned into a permanent attraction.
Housing has been built - all be it quite a while after the initial phase at the top end of the valley (Norwood?), but when private finance was relied on in times of recession - it wasn't going to be an overnight sensation.
I often look in when passing some of the derelict areas of the site. The staithes' falling into disrepair and being left for so long, was disappointing too.

I didn't actually realise how much private money went into the scheme (until reading that Chronicle article).

In principle, a brilliant idea.
In reality, the outcome was slightly different.

The chronicle article also mentions the Caterpillar Monorail and the narrow gauge railway. Presumably neither would have been cheap to construct. You might have thought Gateshead Council (and other stakeholders) would have been keen to capitalise on these two attractions and make a little bit of money from them after the close of the festival. While I'm not a big fan of narrow gauge railways, they do seem to attract tourists. As far as I'm aware, aside from a path, nothing has been built on the course of the line. I can't help to think the council missed a trick there. 
MurdnunoC
31 May 2015, 8:48 pm #1,340

(31 May 2015, 8:25 pm)Andreos1 I enjoyed the festival itself.
Went many times and always found something different.

Like you, I was disappointed the land itself wasn't looked after or turned into a permanent attraction.
Housing has been built - all be it quite a while after the initial phase at the top end of the valley (Norwood?), but when private finance was relied on in times of recession - it wasn't going to be an overnight sensation.
I often look in when passing some of the derelict areas of the site. The staithes' falling into disrepair and being left for so long, was disappointing too.

I didn't actually realise how much private money went into the scheme (until reading that Chronicle article).

In principle, a brilliant idea.
In reality, the outcome was slightly different.

The chronicle article also mentions the Caterpillar Monorail and the narrow gauge railway. Presumably neither would have been cheap to construct. You might have thought Gateshead Council (and other stakeholders) would have been keen to capitalise on these two attractions and make a little bit of money from them after the close of the festival. While I'm not a big fan of narrow gauge railways, they do seem to attract tourists. As far as I'm aware, aside from a path, nothing has been built on the course of the line. I can't help to think the council missed a trick there. 

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