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13 Apr 2016, 5:21 pm #481
When did weardale loose the 933?

4842
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biglugs@yahoo.com
13 Apr 2016, 5:21 pm #481

When did weardale loose the 933?


4842
Best bus ever

idiot



1,121
14 Apr 2016, 1:43 pm #482
What is the point of TB1? Am I missing something? Lol
idiot
14 Apr 2016, 1:43 pm #482

What is the point of TB1? Am I missing something? Lol

14 Apr 2016, 4:13 pm #483
(14 Apr 2016, 1:43 pm)idiot What is the point of TB1? Am I missing something? Lol

You are
The tb1 gives cross city links
And gets a full load

4842
Best bus ever
biglugs@yahoo.com
14 Apr 2016, 4:13 pm #483

(14 Apr 2016, 1:43 pm)idiot What is the point of TB1? Am I missing something? Lol

You are
The tb1 gives cross city links
And gets a full load


4842
Best bus ever

idiot



1,121
14 Apr 2016, 4:17 pm #484
I was looking at the timetable in Roker today and thought surely not!
idiot
14 Apr 2016, 4:17 pm #484

I was looking at the timetable in Roker today and thought surely not!

Andreos1



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17 May 2016, 7:57 am #485
(30 Mar 2016, 10:14 pm)Adrian Just a thought, but perhaps the upcoming devolution decision is causing Nexus to not get into any long term contracts?

If devolution goes through, NECA would be responsible for transport in Durham and Northumberland too, resulting in a complete overhaul of how Nexus is funded.

There was a feature on this during Look North last night. 
With Gateshead opting out, there are concerns about a transport black hole in that area.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
17 May 2016, 7:57 am #485

(30 Mar 2016, 10:14 pm)Adrian Just a thought, but perhaps the upcoming devolution decision is causing Nexus to not get into any long term contracts?

If devolution goes through, NECA would be responsible for transport in Durham and Northumberland too, resulting in a complete overhaul of how Nexus is funded.

There was a feature on this during Look North last night. 
With Gateshead opting out, there are concerns about a transport black hole in that area.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Tom



6,138
20 May 2016, 5:15 pm #486
(29 Mar 2016, 10:41 am)Dan A large number of tenders have been released by Nexus this morning. Details as follows:

Service 6 (Newcastle Pilgrim Street - Jesmond Vale - Newcastle Pilgrim Street)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 20/05/2017
Currently operated by Arriva North East

Contractual requirements:
Monday - Saturday
1x low-floor Euro 4 vehicle with a minimum capacity of 23. Maximum vehicle length 8.5m.

Service 6 (Newcastle Pilgrim Street - Jesmond Vale - Newcastle Pilgrim Street)
Service 553 (Battle Hill - Wallsend - Heaton - Freeman Hospital - Regent Centre)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Currently operated by Arriva North East

Contractual requirements:
Monday - Saturday
2x low-floor Euro 4 vehicle with a minimum capacity of 23. Maximum vehicle length 8.5m.

Service 8X (South Hylton - Pennywell)
Service 836 (Hamsterley Mill - Blackhal Mill - Highfield St Joseph's RC School)
Service 939 (Sunderland - Washington - Team Valley)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 20/05/2017
Currently operated by Compass Community Transport

Contractual requirements:
Daily
1x low-floor Euro 4 vehicle with a minimum capacity of 16. Maximum vehicle length 7.2m.

Service 13 (West Denton - Dumpling Hall - Lemington - Throckley - Walbottle - Lemington - Dumpling Hall - West Denton)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Currently operated by Arriva North East

Contractual requirements:
Monday - Saturday
1x Euro 4 vehicle with a minimum capacity of 23. Maximum vehicle length 9.5m.

Service 17 (Rosehill/Holy Cross - Wallsend - Cramlington)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Currently operated by Arriva North East and Phoenix Coaches

Contractual requirements:
Daily
3x Euro 4 vehicles with a minimum capacity of 23.

Service 18/18A (Walker - Byker - Heaton - Four Lane Ends)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Currently operated by Arriva North East

Contractual requirements:
Daily; Monday - Saturday evenings, all day Sunday.
2x low-floor Euro 4 vehicles with a minimum capacity of 23.

Service 19 (Northumberland Park - Cobalt - Percy Main - North Shields - North Shields Ferry)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Currently operated by Arriva North East and Phoenix Coaches

Contractual requirements:
Daily
2x low-floor Euro 4 vehicles with a minimum capacity of 23. Vehicle must be single-deck due to low bridge.

Service 32/32A (Newcastle - Benwell - Kenton Bar - Freeman Hospital - [Four Lane Ends])
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Currently operated by Arriva North East and Go North East.

Contractual requirements:
2x vehicles daily evening
4x vehicles Sunday daytime.
Low-floor Euro 4 vehicles with a minimum capacity of 23.

Service 33/33A (City Centre - Jesmond - Hollywood Avenue - Fawdon[33A])
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Currently operated by Kingsley's Coaches and Arriva North East

Contractual requirements:
Monday - Saturday daytime - 2x low-floor Euro 4 vehicle with a minimum capacity of 36. Maximum vehicle length 11.5m.
Evenings and Sundays - 1x low-floor Euro 4 vehicle with a minimum capacity of 36. Maximum vehicle length 11.5m.

Service 59 (Whitley Bay - Rake Lane - Backworth)
Service 359 (Marden Estate - Rake Lane - West Allotment - Backworth)

Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Currently operated by Arriva North East.

Contractual requirements:
Monday - Saturday
1x low-floor Euro 4 vehicles with a minimum capacity of 23. Maximum vehicle length 9.5m.
PM 59 journeys retimed as resource no longer interworks with W2. Revised route in West Allotment for 359 with journeys in both directions now operating anti-clockwise.

Service 84 (Metrocentre to Newcastle via Scotswood and Benwell)
Service 84A (West Denton Shops to Newcastle via Slatyford, Fenham and RVI Hospital)

Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 20/05/2017
Currently operated by Arriva North East

Contractual requirements:
Monday - Saturday
2x Euro 4 vehicle with a minimum capacity of 23. Maximum vehicle length 8.5m.

Service 168 (East Rainton - Hetton-le-Hole - Hetton Downs - Easington Lane)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 20/05/2017
Currently operated by Arriva North East

Contractual requirements:
Monday - Saturday
1x Euro 4 vehicle with a minimum capacity of 23. Maximum vehicle length 8.5m.

Service 333 (North Shields - North Shields Ferry - Fish Quay - North Shields - Tynemouth Seafront - North Shields)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Currently operated by Phoenix Coaches

Contractual requirements:
Monday - Saturday
1x low-floor Euro 4 vehicle with a minimum capacity of 36.

Service 335 (Four Lane Ends - Benton ASDA - Battle Hill - Hadrian Park - Cobalt Business Park)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Currently operated by Arriva North East

Contractual requirements:
Monday - Saturday
2x low-floor Euro 4 vehicle with a minimum capacity of 36

Service 496 (Brunswick Village - Hazlerigg - Kingston Park - Regent Centre - DSS Tyneview Park)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Currently operated by Arriva North East

Contractual requirements:
Monday - Friday
1x low-floor Euro 4 vehicle with a minimum capacity of 23.
Revised route and timetable will come with the renewal of this contract. No longer serves Dinnington and operates through Brunswick, Wideopen and Hazlerigg in alternate direction. More direct route between Benton Park Road and Tyneview Park.

Service M71 (Kingston Park Tesco - Westerhope - Kingston Park Tesco)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Currently operated by Arriva North East

Contractual requirements:
Monday - Saturday
2x low-floor Euro 4 vehicle with a minimum capacity of 36. Maximum vehicle length 9.5m.

Service W1/W1A (Whitley Bay - Hillheads Estate - West Monkseaton - Sainsbury's - Earsdon Grange)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Currently operated by Go North East

Contractual requirements:
Monday - Saturday
2x low-floor Euro 4 vehicle with a minimum capacity of 36. Maximum vehicle length 9m.

Service W2 (Whitley Bay - Brierdene - Whitley Bay)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Currently operated by Arriva North East

Contractual requirements:
Monday - Saturday
1x low-floor Euro 4 vehicle with a minimum capacity of 36. Maximum vehicle length 9m.

Service W3 (Whitley Bay - Valley Gardens - North Tyneside General Hospital - New York - Percy Main)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Currently operated by Go North East

Contractual requirements:
Monday - Saturday
1x low-floor Euro 4 vehicle with a minimum capacity of 36. Maximum vehicle length 9m.

Any updates on these?
Tom
20 May 2016, 5:15 pm #486

(29 Mar 2016, 10:41 am)Dan A large number of tenders have been released by Nexus this morning. Details as follows:

Service 6 (Newcastle Pilgrim Street - Jesmond Vale - Newcastle Pilgrim Street)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 20/05/2017
Currently operated by Arriva North East

Contractual requirements:
Monday - Saturday
1x low-floor Euro 4 vehicle with a minimum capacity of 23. Maximum vehicle length 8.5m.

Service 6 (Newcastle Pilgrim Street - Jesmond Vale - Newcastle Pilgrim Street)
Service 553 (Battle Hill - Wallsend - Heaton - Freeman Hospital - Regent Centre)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Currently operated by Arriva North East

Contractual requirements:
Monday - Saturday
2x low-floor Euro 4 vehicle with a minimum capacity of 23. Maximum vehicle length 8.5m.

Service 8X (South Hylton - Pennywell)
Service 836 (Hamsterley Mill - Blackhal Mill - Highfield St Joseph's RC School)
Service 939 (Sunderland - Washington - Team Valley)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 20/05/2017
Currently operated by Compass Community Transport

Contractual requirements:
Daily
1x low-floor Euro 4 vehicle with a minimum capacity of 16. Maximum vehicle length 7.2m.

Service 13 (West Denton - Dumpling Hall - Lemington - Throckley - Walbottle - Lemington - Dumpling Hall - West Denton)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Currently operated by Arriva North East

Contractual requirements:
Monday - Saturday
1x Euro 4 vehicle with a minimum capacity of 23. Maximum vehicle length 9.5m.

Service 17 (Rosehill/Holy Cross - Wallsend - Cramlington)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Currently operated by Arriva North East and Phoenix Coaches

Contractual requirements:
Daily
3x Euro 4 vehicles with a minimum capacity of 23.

Service 18/18A (Walker - Byker - Heaton - Four Lane Ends)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Currently operated by Arriva North East

Contractual requirements:
Daily; Monday - Saturday evenings, all day Sunday.
2x low-floor Euro 4 vehicles with a minimum capacity of 23.

Service 19 (Northumberland Park - Cobalt - Percy Main - North Shields - North Shields Ferry)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Currently operated by Arriva North East and Phoenix Coaches

Contractual requirements:
Daily
2x low-floor Euro 4 vehicles with a minimum capacity of 23. Vehicle must be single-deck due to low bridge.

Service 32/32A (Newcastle - Benwell - Kenton Bar - Freeman Hospital - [Four Lane Ends])
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Currently operated by Arriva North East and Go North East.

Contractual requirements:
2x vehicles daily evening
4x vehicles Sunday daytime.
Low-floor Euro 4 vehicles with a minimum capacity of 23.

Service 33/33A (City Centre - Jesmond - Hollywood Avenue - Fawdon[33A])
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Currently operated by Kingsley's Coaches and Arriva North East

Contractual requirements:
Monday - Saturday daytime - 2x low-floor Euro 4 vehicle with a minimum capacity of 36. Maximum vehicle length 11.5m.
Evenings and Sundays - 1x low-floor Euro 4 vehicle with a minimum capacity of 36. Maximum vehicle length 11.5m.

Service 59 (Whitley Bay - Rake Lane - Backworth)
Service 359 (Marden Estate - Rake Lane - West Allotment - Backworth)

Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Currently operated by Arriva North East.

Contractual requirements:
Monday - Saturday
1x low-floor Euro 4 vehicles with a minimum capacity of 23. Maximum vehicle length 9.5m.
PM 59 journeys retimed as resource no longer interworks with W2. Revised route in West Allotment for 359 with journeys in both directions now operating anti-clockwise.

Service 84 (Metrocentre to Newcastle via Scotswood and Benwell)
Service 84A (West Denton Shops to Newcastle via Slatyford, Fenham and RVI Hospital)

Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 20/05/2017
Currently operated by Arriva North East

Contractual requirements:
Monday - Saturday
2x Euro 4 vehicle with a minimum capacity of 23. Maximum vehicle length 8.5m.

Service 168 (East Rainton - Hetton-le-Hole - Hetton Downs - Easington Lane)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 20/05/2017
Currently operated by Arriva North East

Contractual requirements:
Monday - Saturday
1x Euro 4 vehicle with a minimum capacity of 23. Maximum vehicle length 8.5m.

Service 333 (North Shields - North Shields Ferry - Fish Quay - North Shields - Tynemouth Seafront - North Shields)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Currently operated by Phoenix Coaches

Contractual requirements:
Monday - Saturday
1x low-floor Euro 4 vehicle with a minimum capacity of 36.

Service 335 (Four Lane Ends - Benton ASDA - Battle Hill - Hadrian Park - Cobalt Business Park)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Currently operated by Arriva North East

Contractual requirements:
Monday - Saturday
2x low-floor Euro 4 vehicle with a minimum capacity of 36

Service 496 (Brunswick Village - Hazlerigg - Kingston Park - Regent Centre - DSS Tyneview Park)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Currently operated by Arriva North East

Contractual requirements:
Monday - Friday
1x low-floor Euro 4 vehicle with a minimum capacity of 23.
Revised route and timetable will come with the renewal of this contract. No longer serves Dinnington and operates through Brunswick, Wideopen and Hazlerigg in alternate direction. More direct route between Benton Park Road and Tyneview Park.

Service M71 (Kingston Park Tesco - Westerhope - Kingston Park Tesco)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Currently operated by Arriva North East

Contractual requirements:
Monday - Saturday
2x low-floor Euro 4 vehicle with a minimum capacity of 36. Maximum vehicle length 9.5m.

Service W1/W1A (Whitley Bay - Hillheads Estate - West Monkseaton - Sainsbury's - Earsdon Grange)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Currently operated by Go North East

Contractual requirements:
Monday - Saturday
2x low-floor Euro 4 vehicle with a minimum capacity of 36. Maximum vehicle length 9m.

Service W2 (Whitley Bay - Brierdene - Whitley Bay)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Currently operated by Arriva North East

Contractual requirements:
Monday - Saturday
1x low-floor Euro 4 vehicle with a minimum capacity of 36. Maximum vehicle length 9m.

Service W3 (Whitley Bay - Valley Gardens - North Tyneside General Hospital - New York - Percy Main)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Currently operated by Go North East

Contractual requirements:
Monday - Saturday
1x low-floor Euro 4 vehicle with a minimum capacity of 36. Maximum vehicle length 9m.

Any updates on these?

Dan

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18,117
20 May 2016, 5:42 pm #487
(20 May 2016, 5:15 pm)Tom Any updates on these?

I think the results were meant to be announced this week, but I've not had anything back from Nexus yet!

Will post as soon as I know. Smile
Dan
20 May 2016, 5:42 pm #487

(20 May 2016, 5:15 pm)Tom Any updates on these?

I think the results were meant to be announced this week, but I've not had anything back from Nexus yet!

Will post as soon as I know. Smile

Tom



6,138
20 May 2016, 5:42 pm #488
(20 May 2016, 5:42 pm)Dan I think the results were meant to be announced this week, but I've not had anything back from Nexus yet!

Will post as soon as I know. Smile

Great cheers Smile
Tom
20 May 2016, 5:42 pm #488

(20 May 2016, 5:42 pm)Dan I think the results were meant to be announced this week, but I've not had anything back from Nexus yet!

Will post as soon as I know. Smile

Great cheers Smile

Jimmi



10,970
20 May 2016, 5:46 pm #489
Anyone know if any of the contracts in County Durham are up for tender anytime soon?
Jimmi
20 May 2016, 5:46 pm #489

Anyone know if any of the contracts in County Durham are up for tender anytime soon?

dannygee



339
20 May 2016, 5:47 pm #490
Hope go north east get a few extra routes
dannygee
20 May 2016, 5:47 pm #490

Hope go north east get a few extra routes

BusLoverMum



5,282
20 May 2016, 6:15 pm #491
(20 May 2016, 5:46 pm)Jimmi Anyone know if any of the contracts in County Durham are up for tender anytime soon?

I would have thought they would be. Isn't the renewal date next month?
BusLoverMum
20 May 2016, 6:15 pm #491

(20 May 2016, 5:46 pm)Jimmi Anyone know if any of the contracts in County Durham are up for tender anytime soon?

I would have thought they would be. Isn't the renewal date next month?

dannygee



339
20 May 2016, 6:18 pm #492
Go north east could take on the night time 17 and 19 too?
59/359 would be essy for them to do.
Even the 333

All operated by percy main.
Would be good for them if this happened.
Edited 20 May 2016, 6:19 pm by dannygee.
dannygee
20 May 2016, 6:18 pm #492

Go north east could take on the night time 17 and 19 too?
59/359 would be essy for them to do.
Even the 333

All operated by percy main.
Would be good for them if this happened.

Michael



19,168
20 May 2016, 6:30 pm #493
(20 May 2016, 6:18 pm)dannygee Go north east could take on the night time 17 and 19 too?
59/359 would be essy for them to do.
Even the 333

All operated by percy main.
Would be good for them if this happened.

Hopefully they do get those back on a night, GNE got the 82/82A back, so they should go in for them.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
20 May 2016, 6:30 pm #493

(20 May 2016, 6:18 pm)dannygee Go north east could take on the night time 17 and 19 too?
59/359 would be essy for them to do.
Even the 333

All operated by percy main.
Would be good for them if this happened.

Hopefully they do get those back on a night, GNE got the 82/82A back, so they should go in for them.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Tom



6,138
20 May 2016, 7:32 pm #494
(20 May 2016, 6:18 pm)dannygee Go north east could take on the night time 17 and 19 too?
59/359 would be essy for them to do.
Even the 333

All operated by percy main.
Would be good for them if this happened.

Do they have enough Solos to cover the 17, 17A 19, 40 and 41 on a night time?
Tom
20 May 2016, 7:32 pm #494

(20 May 2016, 6:18 pm)dannygee Go north east could take on the night time 17 and 19 too?
59/359 would be essy for them to do.
Even the 333

All operated by percy main.
Would be good for them if this happened.

Do they have enough Solos to cover the 17, 17A 19, 40 and 41 on a night time?

dannygee



339
20 May 2016, 8:08 pm #495
(20 May 2016, 7:32 pm)Tom Do they have enough Solos to cover the 17, 17A 19, 40 and 41 on a night time?

Yep theres only two indiGo solos left out on a night time so leaves 7 spare plus 4 nexus branded solos.
dannygee
20 May 2016, 8:08 pm #495

(20 May 2016, 7:32 pm)Tom Do they have enough Solos to cover the 17, 17A 19, 40 and 41 on a night time?

Yep theres only two indiGo solos left out on a night time so leaves 7 spare plus 4 nexus branded solos.

Tom



6,138
20 May 2016, 8:20 pm #496
(20 May 2016, 8:08 pm)dannygee Yep theres only two indiGo solos left out on a night time so leaves 7 spare plus 4 nexus branded solos.

Ah right I thought only a couple of B10s were used on a night time - seems to be a few B7s used too which seems a bit of a waste.

Would be canny for GNE to take on the 17 on Evening/Sundays. Phoenix are shocking, miss out stops all the time, don't turn up etc.
Tom
20 May 2016, 8:20 pm #496

(20 May 2016, 8:08 pm)dannygee Yep theres only two indiGo solos left out on a night time so leaves 7 spare plus 4 nexus branded solos.

Ah right I thought only a couple of B10s were used on a night time - seems to be a few B7s used too which seems a bit of a waste.

Would be canny for GNE to take on the 17 on Evening/Sundays. Phoenix are shocking, miss out stops all the time, don't turn up etc.

dannygee



339
20 May 2016, 8:30 pm #497
Yep theres quite a few B10s out. Shouldnt be a B7 sometimes theres a omnicity on.
Heard a few people say phoenix might not big for 333 or 17s
dannygee
20 May 2016, 8:30 pm #497

Yep theres quite a few B10s out. Shouldnt be a B7 sometimes theres a omnicity on.
Heard a few people say phoenix might not big for 333 or 17s

Tom



6,138
20 May 2016, 8:36 pm #498
(20 May 2016, 8:30 pm)dannygee Yep theres quite a few B10s out. Shouldnt be a B7 sometimes theres a omnicity on.
Heard a few people say phoenix might not big for 333 or 17s

Hopefully GNE have bid for the Whitley bay town work and the 17/19 on a night time/Sunday then. Hate routes that have 2 or 3 operators running them as some drivers on Arriva don't accept Buzzfare etc. even though they are meant to.
Tom
20 May 2016, 8:36 pm #498

(20 May 2016, 8:30 pm)dannygee Yep theres quite a few B10s out. Shouldnt be a B7 sometimes theres a omnicity on.
Heard a few people say phoenix might not big for 333 or 17s

Hopefully GNE have bid for the Whitley bay town work and the 17/19 on a night time/Sunday then. Hate routes that have 2 or 3 operators running them as some drivers on Arriva don't accept Buzzfare etc. even though they are meant to.

dannygee



339
20 May 2016, 9:21 pm #499
(20 May 2016, 8:36 pm)Tom Hopefully GNE have bid for the Whitley bay town work and the 17/19 on a night time/Sunday then. Hate routes that have 2 or 3 operators running them as some drivers on Arriva don't accept Buzzfare etc. even though they are meant to.

Yep would be good to see GNE get some more work especially on routes they do anyway
dannygee
20 May 2016, 9:21 pm #499

(20 May 2016, 8:36 pm)Tom Hopefully GNE have bid for the Whitley bay town work and the 17/19 on a night time/Sunday then. Hate routes that have 2 or 3 operators running them as some drivers on Arriva don't accept Buzzfare etc. even though they are meant to.

Yep would be good to see GNE get some more work especially on routes they do anyway

Andreos1



14,218
24 May 2016, 10:46 am #500
NCC have this on NEPO today

https://procontract.due-north.com/Advert...9c9ba21NCC

Edit: It appears the link doesn't take you directly to the tender. 
Search for 'Northumberland' and it appears. It isn't the CCTV tender.
Edited 24 May 2016, 11:04 am by Andreos1.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
24 May 2016, 10:46 am #500

NCC have this on NEPO today

https://procontract.due-north.com/Advert...9c9ba21NCC

Edit: It appears the link doesn't take you directly to the tender. 
Search for 'Northumberland' and it appears. It isn't the CCTV tender.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

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