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dannygee



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28 May 2016, 7:12 am #501
Ive heard that phoenix are getting the W1/W1A/W2/W3/59/359 from july. If the do what is GNE percy main drivers going to do.
dannygee
28 May 2016, 7:12 am #501

Ive heard that phoenix are getting the W1/W1A/W2/W3/59/359 from july. If the do what is GNE percy main drivers going to do.

peter



993
29 May 2016, 6:19 pm #502
(29 Mar 2016, 10:41 am)Dan A large number of tenders have been released by Nexus this morning.

Any news on these??
Edited 29 May 2016, 6:19 pm by peter.
peter
29 May 2016, 6:19 pm #502

(29 Mar 2016, 10:41 am)Dan A large number of tenders have been released by Nexus this morning.

Any news on these??

GuyParkRoyal



1,005
30 May 2016, 4:58 pm #503
(20 May 2016, 5:46 pm)Jimmi Anyone know if any of the contracts in County Durham are up for tender anytime soon?

DCC are running a market test on the Cathedral Bus Service with expressions of interest to be submitted by 8th June 2016. The current contract end date is 26th September.
GuyParkRoyal
30 May 2016, 4:58 pm #503

(20 May 2016, 5:46 pm)Jimmi Anyone know if any of the contracts in County Durham are up for tender anytime soon?

DCC are running a market test on the Cathedral Bus Service with expressions of interest to be submitted by 8th June 2016. The current contract end date is 26th September.

30 May 2016, 5:27 pm #504
(30 May 2016, 4:58 pm)GuyParkRoyal DCC are running a market test on the Cathedral Bus Service with expressions of interest to be submitted by 8th June 2016. The current contract end date is 26th September.

Is this the end of the end of the cathedral bus.

4842
Best bus ever
biglugs@yahoo.com
30 May 2016, 5:27 pm #504

(30 May 2016, 4:58 pm)GuyParkRoyal DCC are running a market test on the Cathedral Bus Service with expressions of interest to be submitted by 8th June 2016. The current contract end date is 26th September.

Is this the end of the end of the cathedral bus.


4842
Best bus ever

Tom



6,138
30 May 2016, 8:03 pm #505
(28 May 2016, 7:12 am)dannygee Ive heard that phoenix are getting the W1/W1A/W2/W3/59/359 from july. If the do what is GNE percy main drivers going to do.

Just saw this now - do they have enough buses to cover all them, as well as the K1/K2 as that isn't up for tender I don't think.
Tom
30 May 2016, 8:03 pm #505

(28 May 2016, 7:12 am)dannygee Ive heard that phoenix are getting the W1/W1A/W2/W3/59/359 from july. If the do what is GNE percy main drivers going to do.

Just saw this now - do they have enough buses to cover all them, as well as the K1/K2 as that isn't up for tender I don't think.

Jimmi



10,969
30 May 2016, 8:17 pm #506
(30 May 2016, 8:03 pm)Tom Just saw this now - do they have enough buses to cover all them, as well as the K1/K2 as that isn't up for tender I don't think.
Not sure if they do at this stage, I imagine if they are to take on these contracts, more buses would be acquired to fulfill the contracts if required. It was also said that they've had an increase on the license on the number of vehicles that can be stored at their depot at Blyth, no idea if it's related to this or not though.
Edited 30 May 2016, 8:17 pm by Jimmi.
Jimmi
30 May 2016, 8:17 pm #506

(30 May 2016, 8:03 pm)Tom Just saw this now - do they have enough buses to cover all them, as well as the K1/K2 as that isn't up for tender I don't think.
Not sure if they do at this stage, I imagine if they are to take on these contracts, more buses would be acquired to fulfill the contracts if required. It was also said that they've had an increase on the license on the number of vehicles that can be stored at their depot at Blyth, no idea if it's related to this or not though.

Tom



6,138
30 May 2016, 8:21 pm #507
(30 May 2016, 8:17 pm)Jimmi Not sure if they do at this stage, I imagine if they are to take on these contracts, more buses would be acquired to fulfill the contracts if required. It was also said that they've had an increase on the license on the number of vehicles that can be stored at their depot at Blyth, no idea if it's related to this or not though.

Ah right this suggests they have got at least some contracts then. Think the PVR for the Whitley Bay services is 5 but not sure on that.
Tom
30 May 2016, 8:21 pm #507

(30 May 2016, 8:17 pm)Jimmi Not sure if they do at this stage, I imagine if they are to take on these contracts, more buses would be acquired to fulfill the contracts if required. It was also said that they've had an increase on the license on the number of vehicles that can be stored at their depot at Blyth, no idea if it's related to this or not though.

Ah right this suggests they have got at least some contracts then. Think the PVR for the Whitley Bay services is 5 but not sure on that.

dannygee



339
30 May 2016, 8:32 pm #508
(30 May 2016, 8:21 pm)Tom Ah right this suggests they have got at least some contracts then. Think the PVR for the Whitley Bay services is 5 but not sure on that.

W1/W1A-pvr 2
W2-pvr 1
W3- pvr 1
59/359- pvr 1
dannygee
30 May 2016, 8:32 pm #508

(30 May 2016, 8:21 pm)Tom Ah right this suggests they have got at least some contracts then. Think the PVR for the Whitley Bay services is 5 but not sure on that.

W1/W1A-pvr 2
W2-pvr 1
W3- pvr 1
59/359- pvr 1

Tom



6,138
30 May 2016, 8:36 pm #509
(30 May 2016, 8:32 pm)dannygee W1/W1A-pvr 2
W2-pvr 1
W3- pvr 1
59/359- pvr 1

Thought so cheers Smile
Tom
30 May 2016, 8:36 pm #509

(30 May 2016, 8:32 pm)dannygee W1/W1A-pvr 2
W2-pvr 1
W3- pvr 1
59/359- pvr 1

Thought so cheers Smile

dannygee



339
30 May 2016, 8:45 pm #510
Any news dan on the contracts?
dannygee
30 May 2016, 8:45 pm #510

Any news dan on the contracts?

Dan

Site Administrator

18,116
31 May 2016, 4:10 pm #511
(29 May 2016, 6:19 pm)peter Any news on these??

(30 May 2016, 8:45 pm)dannygee Any news dan on the contracts?

Details of some below:

Service 13 (West Denton - Dumpling Hall - Lemington - Throckley - Walbottle - Lemington - Dumpling Hall - West Denton)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service 19 (Northumberland Park - Cobalt - Percy Main - North Shields - North Shields Ferry)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service 33/33A (City Centre - Jesmond - Hollywood Avenue - Fawdon[33A])
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service 168 (East Rainton - Hetton-le-Hole - Hetton Downs - Easington Lane)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 20/05/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service 496 (Brunswick Village - Hazlerigg - Kingston Park - Regent Centre - DSS Tyneview Park)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service W1/W1A (Whitley Bay - Hillheads Estate - West Monkseaton - Sainsbury's - Earsdon Grange)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Phoenix Coaches

Service W2 (Whitley Bay - Brierdene - Whitley Bay)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Phoenix Coaches

Service W3 (Whitley Bay - Valley Gardens - North Tyneside General Hospital - New York - Percy Main)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Phoenix Coaches
Dan
31 May 2016, 4:10 pm #511

(29 May 2016, 6:19 pm)peter Any news on these??

(30 May 2016, 8:45 pm)dannygee Any news dan on the contracts?

Details of some below:

Service 13 (West Denton - Dumpling Hall - Lemington - Throckley - Walbottle - Lemington - Dumpling Hall - West Denton)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service 19 (Northumberland Park - Cobalt - Percy Main - North Shields - North Shields Ferry)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service 33/33A (City Centre - Jesmond - Hollywood Avenue - Fawdon[33A])
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service 168 (East Rainton - Hetton-le-Hole - Hetton Downs - Easington Lane)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 20/05/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service 496 (Brunswick Village - Hazlerigg - Kingston Park - Regent Centre - DSS Tyneview Park)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service W1/W1A (Whitley Bay - Hillheads Estate - West Monkseaton - Sainsbury's - Earsdon Grange)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Phoenix Coaches

Service W2 (Whitley Bay - Brierdene - Whitley Bay)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Phoenix Coaches

Service W3 (Whitley Bay - Valley Gardens - North Tyneside General Hospital - New York - Percy Main)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Phoenix Coaches

Michael



19,164
31 May 2016, 4:15 pm #512
(31 May 2016, 4:10 pm)Dan Details of some below:

Service 13 (West Denton - Dumpling Hall - Lemington - Throckley - Walbottle - Lemington - Dumpling Hall - West Denton)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service 19 (Northumberland Park - Cobalt - Percy Main - North Shields - North Shields Ferry)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service 33/33A (City Centre - Jesmond - Hollywood Avenue - Fawdon[33A])
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service 168 (East Rainton - Hetton-le-Hole - Hetton Downs - Easington Lane)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 20/05/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service 496 (Brunswick Village - Hazlerigg - Kingston Park - Regent Centre - DSS Tyneview Park)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service W1/W1A (Whitley Bay - Hillheads Estate - West Monkseaton - Sainsbury's - Earsdon Grange)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Phoenix Coaches

Service W2 (Whitley Bay - Brierdene - Whitley Bay)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Phoenix Coaches

Service W3 (Whitley Bay - Valley Gardens - North Tyneside General Hospital - New York - Percy Main)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Phoenix Coaches

GNE have won a few new routes, glad to see them running the 19, 7 days a week.


Wonder if the 168 could be merged with another route if GNE ever picked it up as a commercial route....
Edited 31 May 2016, 4:19 pm by Michael.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
31 May 2016, 4:15 pm #512

(31 May 2016, 4:10 pm)Dan Details of some below:

Service 13 (West Denton - Dumpling Hall - Lemington - Throckley - Walbottle - Lemington - Dumpling Hall - West Denton)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service 19 (Northumberland Park - Cobalt - Percy Main - North Shields - North Shields Ferry)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service 33/33A (City Centre - Jesmond - Hollywood Avenue - Fawdon[33A])
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service 168 (East Rainton - Hetton-le-Hole - Hetton Downs - Easington Lane)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 20/05/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service 496 (Brunswick Village - Hazlerigg - Kingston Park - Regent Centre - DSS Tyneview Park)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service W1/W1A (Whitley Bay - Hillheads Estate - West Monkseaton - Sainsbury's - Earsdon Grange)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Phoenix Coaches

Service W2 (Whitley Bay - Brierdene - Whitley Bay)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Phoenix Coaches

Service W3 (Whitley Bay - Valley Gardens - North Tyneside General Hospital - New York - Percy Main)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Phoenix Coaches

GNE have won a few new routes, glad to see them running the 19, 7 days a week.


Wonder if the 168 could be merged with another route if GNE ever picked it up as a commercial route....


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Dan

Site Administrator

18,116
31 May 2016, 4:24 pm #513
(31 May 2016, 4:15 pm)Michael GNE have won a few new routes, glad to see them running the 19, 7 days a week.


Wonder if the 168 could be merged with another route if GNE ever picked it up as a commercial route....

Let's walk before we can run! Wink

I'd imagine it would only ever be commercially operated if there was a risk that the contract would be lost to a competitor, and the service proves to be sustainable for the duration of the contract.

Most journeys on service 29 in Gateshead will be commercially operated from the same date as above - willing to bet Gateshead Central Taxis had an attractive bid in for that service! That's your cue, Andreos!

Might be able to provide more info when I manage to get into my NEB emails! That's where I get all my tender info sent to!
Dan
31 May 2016, 4:24 pm #513

(31 May 2016, 4:15 pm)Michael GNE have won a few new routes, glad to see them running the 19, 7 days a week.


Wonder if the 168 could be merged with another route if GNE ever picked it up as a commercial route....

Let's walk before we can run! Wink

I'd imagine it would only ever be commercially operated if there was a risk that the contract would be lost to a competitor, and the service proves to be sustainable for the duration of the contract.

Most journeys on service 29 in Gateshead will be commercially operated from the same date as above - willing to bet Gateshead Central Taxis had an attractive bid in for that service! That's your cue, Andreos!

Might be able to provide more info when I manage to get into my NEB emails! That's where I get all my tender info sent to!

31 May 2016, 4:54 pm #514
Will the 333 be going up for tender

4842
Best bus ever
biglugs@yahoo.com
31 May 2016, 4:54 pm #514

Will the 333 be going up for tender


4842
Best bus ever

Dan

Site Administrator

18,116
31 May 2016, 4:58 pm #515
(31 May 2016, 4:54 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com Will the 333 be going up for tender

Yes - I think Pheonix have been awarded with it again.

Go North East has lost the Sunday 32/A services and I think Phoenix may have picked these up too. Arriva has also lost the 554 to Go North East.
Dan
31 May 2016, 4:58 pm #515

(31 May 2016, 4:54 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com Will the 333 be going up for tender

Yes - I think Pheonix have been awarded with it again.

Go North East has lost the Sunday 32/A services and I think Phoenix may have picked these up too. Arriva has also lost the 554 to Go North East.

Tom



6,138
31 May 2016, 4:59 pm #516
(31 May 2016, 4:10 pm)Dan Details of some below:

Service 13 (West Denton - Dumpling Hall - Lemington - Throckley - Walbottle - Lemington - Dumpling Hall - West Denton)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service 19 (Northumberland Park - Cobalt - Percy Main - North Shields - North Shields Ferry)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service 33/33A (City Centre - Jesmond - Hollywood Avenue - Fawdon[33A])
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service 168 (East Rainton - Hetton-le-Hole - Hetton Downs - Easington Lane)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 20/05/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service 496 (Brunswick Village - Hazlerigg - Kingston Park - Regent Centre - DSS Tyneview Park)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service W1/W1A (Whitley Bay - Hillheads Estate - West Monkseaton - Sainsbury's - Earsdon Grange)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Phoenix Coaches

Service W2 (Whitley Bay - Brierdene - Whitley Bay)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Phoenix Coaches

Service W3 (Whitley Bay - Valley Gardens - North Tyneside General Hospital - New York - Percy Main)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Phoenix Coaches

Cheers for sharing Smile
Do you know about the 17 yet?
Tom
31 May 2016, 4:59 pm #516

(31 May 2016, 4:10 pm)Dan Details of some below:

Service 13 (West Denton - Dumpling Hall - Lemington - Throckley - Walbottle - Lemington - Dumpling Hall - West Denton)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service 19 (Northumberland Park - Cobalt - Percy Main - North Shields - North Shields Ferry)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service 33/33A (City Centre - Jesmond - Hollywood Avenue - Fawdon[33A])
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service 168 (East Rainton - Hetton-le-Hole - Hetton Downs - Easington Lane)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 20/05/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service 496 (Brunswick Village - Hazlerigg - Kingston Park - Regent Centre - DSS Tyneview Park)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Service W1/W1A (Whitley Bay - Hillheads Estate - West Monkseaton - Sainsbury's - Earsdon Grange)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Phoenix Coaches

Service W2 (Whitley Bay - Brierdene - Whitley Bay)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Phoenix Coaches

Service W3 (Whitley Bay - Valley Gardens - North Tyneside General Hospital - New York - Percy Main)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Phoenix Coaches

Cheers for sharing Smile
Do you know about the 17 yet?

Michael



19,164
31 May 2016, 4:59 pm #517
(31 May 2016, 4:24 pm)Dan Let's walk before we can run! Wink

I'd imagine it would only ever be commercially operated if there was a risk that the contract would be lost to a competitor, and the service proves to be sustainable for the duration of the contract.

Most journeys on service 29 in Gateshead will be commercially operated from the same date as above - willing to bet Gateshead Central Taxis had an attractive bid in for that service! That's your cue, Andreos!

Might be able to provide more info when I manage to get into my NEB emails! That's where I get all my tender info sent to!

That's good.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
31 May 2016, 4:59 pm #517

(31 May 2016, 4:24 pm)Dan Let's walk before we can run! Wink

I'd imagine it would only ever be commercially operated if there was a risk that the contract would be lost to a competitor, and the service proves to be sustainable for the duration of the contract.

Most journeys on service 29 in Gateshead will be commercially operated from the same date as above - willing to bet Gateshead Central Taxis had an attractive bid in for that service! That's your cue, Andreos!

Might be able to provide more info when I manage to get into my NEB emails! That's where I get all my tender info sent to!

That's good.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

dannygee



339
31 May 2016, 5:00 pm #518
Which depots will be operating these?
dannygee
31 May 2016, 5:00 pm #518

Which depots will be operating these?

Michael



19,164
31 May 2016, 5:06 pm #519
(31 May 2016, 5:00 pm)dannygee Which depots will be operating these?

At a guess:


Service 13 (West Denton - Dumpling Hall - Lemington - Throckley - Walbottle - Lemington - Dumpling Hall - West Denton)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Riverside 
 -----------------


Service 33/33A (City Centre - Jesmond - Hollywood Avenue - Fawdon[33A])
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East
 
Riverside

--------------

Service 168 (East Rainton - Hetton-le-Hole - Hetton Downs - Easington Lane)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 20/05/2017
Awarded to Go North East
 
Deptford 

--------------------
Service 496 (Brunswick Village - Hazlerigg - Kingston Park - Regent Centre - DSS Tyneview Park)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Percy Main

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
31 May 2016, 5:06 pm #519

(31 May 2016, 5:00 pm)dannygee Which depots will be operating these?

At a guess:


Service 13 (West Denton - Dumpling Hall - Lemington - Throckley - Walbottle - Lemington - Dumpling Hall - West Denton)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Riverside 
 -----------------


Service 33/33A (City Centre - Jesmond - Hollywood Avenue - Fawdon[33A])
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East
 
Riverside

--------------

Service 168 (East Rainton - Hetton-le-Hole - Hetton Downs - Easington Lane)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 20/05/2017
Awarded to Go North East
 
Deptford 

--------------------
Service 496 (Brunswick Village - Hazlerigg - Kingston Park - Regent Centre - DSS Tyneview Park)
Contract Period: 24/07/2016 to 18/03/2017
Awarded to Go North East

Percy Main


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Andreos1



14,208
31 May 2016, 7:36 pm #520
(31 May 2016, 4:15 pm)Michael GNE have won a few new routes, glad to see them running the 19, 7 days a week.


Wonder if the 168 could be merged with another route if GNE ever picked it up as a commercial route....

The long 38 (in theory), would have worked well with the 168. Both terminate about a mile from each other the way the roads work (basically opposite sides of the dual carriageway as the crow flies).

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
31 May 2016, 7:36 pm #520

(31 May 2016, 4:15 pm)Michael GNE have won a few new routes, glad to see them running the 19, 7 days a week.


Wonder if the 168 could be merged with another route if GNE ever picked it up as a commercial route....

The long 38 (in theory), would have worked well with the 168. Both terminate about a mile from each other the way the roads work (basically opposite sides of the dual carriageway as the crow flies).


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

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