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GuyParkRoyal



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02 Jan 2019, 10:59 am #681
Public Inquiry (78062) held at Hillcrest House (Leeds), LS9 6NF, 386 Harehills Lane, LEEDS,
on 4 December 2018 commenced at 14:00 (Previous Publication: 2346)
PB1069957 SN
PETER IAN COWELL
43 CAMERON ROAD, PRUDHOE, NE42 5AJ
S17 - Formal warning with Undertakings attached to licence.
Edited 02 Jan 2019, 11:00 am by GuyParkRoyal.
GuyParkRoyal
02 Jan 2019, 10:59 am #681

Public Inquiry (78062) held at Hillcrest House (Leeds), LS9 6NF, 386 Harehills Lane, LEEDS,
on 4 December 2018 commenced at 14:00 (Previous Publication: 2346)
PB1069957 SN
PETER IAN COWELL
43 CAMERON ROAD, PRUDHOE, NE42 5AJ
S17 - Formal warning with Undertakings attached to licence.

02 Jan 2019, 4:39 pm #682
(02 Jan 2019, 10:59 am)GuyParkRoyal Public Inquiry (78062) held at Hillcrest House (Leeds), LS9 6NF, 386 Harehills Lane, LEEDS,
on 4 December 2018 commenced at 14:00 (Previous Publication: 2346)
PB1069957 SN
PETER IAN COWELL
43 CAMERON ROAD, PRUDHOE, NE42 5AJ
S17 - Formal warning with Undertakings attached to licence.

Does anyone know what the inquiry was about and what the undertaking is? Hopefully it concerns running services with decent vehicles, running on time with no cancellations and employing staff who show concern for their passengers.
Ex-conductor
02 Jan 2019, 4:39 pm #682

(02 Jan 2019, 10:59 am)GuyParkRoyal Public Inquiry (78062) held at Hillcrest House (Leeds), LS9 6NF, 386 Harehills Lane, LEEDS,
on 4 December 2018 commenced at 14:00 (Previous Publication: 2346)
PB1069957 SN
PETER IAN COWELL
43 CAMERON ROAD, PRUDHOE, NE42 5AJ
S17 - Formal warning with Undertakings attached to licence.

Does anyone know what the inquiry was about and what the undertaking is? Hopefully it concerns running services with decent vehicles, running on time with no cancellations and employing staff who show concern for their passengers.

S830OFT



1,395
02 Jan 2019, 5:17 pm #683
(02 Jan 2019, 4:39 pm)Ex-conductor Does anyone know what the inquiry was about and what the undertaking is? Hopefully it concerns running services with decent vehicles, running on time with no cancellations and employing staff who show concern for their passengers.

Hopefully, but also having all Fleet Vehicles Taxed as they had SN56EMK out with no Tax or MOT a few month back. Also in terms of employment at PCL the owner simply posts 'PCV Driver Required' on his Facebook Profile.


S830OFT
02 Jan 2019, 5:17 pm #683

(02 Jan 2019, 4:39 pm)Ex-conductor Does anyone know what the inquiry was about and what the undertaking is? Hopefully it concerns running services with decent vehicles, running on time with no cancellations and employing staff who show concern for their passengers.

Hopefully, but also having all Fleet Vehicles Taxed as they had SN56EMK out with no Tax or MOT a few month back. Also in terms of employment at PCL the owner simply posts 'PCV Driver Required' on his Facebook Profile.



Andreos1



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02 Jan 2019, 6:47 pm #684
(02 Jan 2019, 5:17 pm)S830OFT Hopefully, but also having all Fleet Vehicles Taxed as they had SN56EMK out with no Tax or MOT a few month back . Also in terms of employment at PCL the owner simply posts 'PCV Driver Required' on his Facebook Profile.

No tax or mot?!

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
02 Jan 2019, 6:47 pm #684

(02 Jan 2019, 5:17 pm)S830OFT Hopefully, but also having all Fleet Vehicles Taxed as they had SN56EMK out with no Tax or MOT a few month back . Also in terms of employment at PCL the owner simply posts 'PCV Driver Required' on his Facebook Profile.

No tax or mot?!


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

GNE6312



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02 Jan 2019, 6:48 pm #685
(02 Jan 2019, 10:59 am)GuyParkRoyal Public Inquiry (78062) held at Hillcrest House (Leeds), LS9 6NF, 386 Harehills Lane, LEEDS,
on 4 December 2018 commenced at 14:00 (Previous Publication: 2346)
PB1069957 SN
PETER IAN COWELL
43 CAMERON ROAD, PRUDHOE, NE42 5AJ
S17 - Formal warning with Undertakings attached to licence.

How will services be affected?
Lost contacts?
GNE6312
02 Jan 2019, 6:48 pm #685

(02 Jan 2019, 10:59 am)GuyParkRoyal Public Inquiry (78062) held at Hillcrest House (Leeds), LS9 6NF, 386 Harehills Lane, LEEDS,
on 4 December 2018 commenced at 14:00 (Previous Publication: 2346)
PB1069957 SN
PETER IAN COWELL
43 CAMERON ROAD, PRUDHOE, NE42 5AJ
S17 - Formal warning with Undertakings attached to licence.

How will services be affected?
Lost contacts?

S830OFT



1,395
02 Jan 2019, 6:57 pm #686
(02 Jan 2019, 6:47 pm)Andreos1 No tax or mot?!

The DVLA had that on record with vehicle checker.


S830OFT
02 Jan 2019, 6:57 pm #686

(02 Jan 2019, 6:47 pm)Andreos1 No tax or mot?!

The DVLA had that on record with vehicle checker.



Andreos1



14,211
02 Jan 2019, 8:50 pm #687
(02 Jan 2019, 6:57 pm)S830OFT The DVLA had that on record with vehicle checker.

Often takes a while to update. 
Took over week for the tax to show on the DVLA checker on my new car recently. 
Was carrying around the Post Office receipt I got from the dealership 'just incase'.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
02 Jan 2019, 8:50 pm #687

(02 Jan 2019, 6:57 pm)S830OFT The DVLA had that on record with vehicle checker.

Often takes a while to update. 
Took over week for the tax to show on the DVLA checker on my new car recently. 
Was carrying around the Post Office receipt I got from the dealership 'just incase'.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

S830OFT



1,395
02 Jan 2019, 9:19 pm #688
(02 Jan 2019, 8:50 pm)Andreos1 Often takes a while to update. 
Took over week for the tax to show on the DVLA checker on my new car recently. 
Was carrying around the Post Office receipt I got from the dealership 'just incase'.

Yes but I checked it a month later and still wasn't changed...
It's now with Compass and has it's Tax.


S830OFT
02 Jan 2019, 9:19 pm #688

(02 Jan 2019, 8:50 pm)Andreos1 Often takes a while to update. 
Took over week for the tax to show on the DVLA checker on my new car recently. 
Was carrying around the Post Office receipt I got from the dealership 'just incase'.

Yes but I checked it a month later and still wasn't changed...
It's now with Compass and has it's Tax.



S830OFT



1,395
05 Jan 2019, 12:03 pm #689
The blue primo has received a rear advert for a local takeaway in Morpeth.


S830OFT
05 Jan 2019, 12:03 pm #689

The blue primo has received a rear advert for a local takeaway in Morpeth.



06 Jan 2019, 11:07 am #690
A recent acquisition for PCL is Neoplan Euroliner YR52ZHY. Was parked up in the usual place for his dumped coaches in Alnwick with a school service sticker in the window.

Check out my Flickr - www.flickr.com/cobalt512
Cobalt271
06 Jan 2019, 11:07 am #690

A recent acquisition for PCL is Neoplan Euroliner YR52ZHY. Was parked up in the usual place for his dumped coaches in Alnwick with a school service sticker in the window.


Check out my Flickr - www.flickr.com/cobalt512

Charles41



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06 Jan 2019, 12:01 pm #691
(06 Jan 2019, 11:07 am)Cobalt271 A recent acquisition for PCL is Neoplan Euroliner YR52ZHY. Was parked up in the usual place for his dumped coaches in Alnwick with a school service sticker in the window.

Where in Alnwick are PCL parking their vehicles now?

Thanks

Charles
Charles41
06 Jan 2019, 12:01 pm #691

(06 Jan 2019, 11:07 am)Cobalt271 A recent acquisition for PCL is Neoplan Euroliner YR52ZHY. Was parked up in the usual place for his dumped coaches in Alnwick with a school service sticker in the window.

Where in Alnwick are PCL parking their vehicles now?

Thanks

Charles

10 Jan 2019, 7:51 am #692
(06 Jan 2019, 12:01 pm)Charles41 Where in Alnwick are PCL parking their vehicles now?

Thanks

Charles

Usually at the Rontec services when they're not at the outstation in Wooler. The School coaches get dumped on the industrial estate opposite. Failing that they get parked outside Drivers' houses.
Edited 10 Jan 2019, 7:53 am by Cobalt271.

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Cobalt271
10 Jan 2019, 7:51 am #692

(06 Jan 2019, 12:01 pm)Charles41 Where in Alnwick are PCL parking their vehicles now?

Thanks

Charles

Usually at the Rontec services when they're not at the outstation in Wooler. The School coaches get dumped on the industrial estate opposite. Failing that they get parked outside Drivers' houses.


Check out my Flickr - www.flickr.com/cobalt512

10 Jan 2019, 8:53 am #693
I've heard that since PCL have had a run in with the Traffic Commissioner they have lost the 470/473 NCC contracts. I must stress this is mere speculation but the source of info is good.

Check out my Flickr - www.flickr.com/cobalt512
Cobalt271
10 Jan 2019, 8:53 am #693

I've heard that since PCL have had a run in with the Traffic Commissioner they have lost the 470/473 NCC contracts. I must stress this is mere speculation but the source of info is good.


Check out my Flickr - www.flickr.com/cobalt512

S830OFT



1,395
10 Jan 2019, 9:53 am #694
(10 Jan 2019, 8:53 am)Cobalt271 I've heard that since PCL have had a run in with the Traffic Commissioner they have lost the 470/473 NCC contracts. I must stress this is mere speculation but the source of info is good.

Have they lost the contracts with immediate effect or will a new operator take over from next week? Anyways I think a suitable replacement for PCL would be Borders Buses just interworking of the 267/464.


S830OFT
10 Jan 2019, 9:53 am #694

(10 Jan 2019, 8:53 am)Cobalt271 I've heard that since PCL have had a run in with the Traffic Commissioner they have lost the 470/473 NCC contracts. I must stress this is mere speculation but the source of info is good.

Have they lost the contracts with immediate effect or will a new operator take over from next week? Anyways I think a suitable replacement for PCL would be Borders Buses just interworking of the 267/464.



10 Jan 2019, 11:24 am #695
(10 Jan 2019, 9:53 am)S830OFT Have they lost the contracts with immediate effect or will a new operator take over from next week? Anyways I think a suitable replacement for PCL would be Borders Buses just interworking of the 267/464.

No it's not with immediate effect. As I understand it the Council has issued them 90 days notice and asked for tenders to be submitted.

Check out my Flickr - www.flickr.com/cobalt512
Cobalt271
10 Jan 2019, 11:24 am #695

(10 Jan 2019, 9:53 am)S830OFT Have they lost the contracts with immediate effect or will a new operator take over from next week? Anyways I think a suitable replacement for PCL would be Borders Buses just interworking of the 267/464.

No it's not with immediate effect. As I understand it the Council has issued them 90 days notice and asked for tenders to be submitted.


Check out my Flickr - www.flickr.com/cobalt512

S830OFT



1,395
10 Jan 2019, 3:11 pm #696
(10 Jan 2019, 11:24 am)Cobalt271 No it's not with immediate effect. As I understand it the Council has issued them 90 days notice and asked for tenders to be submitted.

Well that Northumberland County Council is dodgy, it has been alleged that they gave the contracts out on a basis of the lowest bid which is likely the reason behind why the 15 is so terrible at operating and how local residents tend to no longer trust this service. Think it is time Nexus expanded out of Tyne and Wear.


S830OFT
10 Jan 2019, 3:11 pm #696

(10 Jan 2019, 11:24 am)Cobalt271 No it's not with immediate effect. As I understand it the Council has issued them 90 days notice and asked for tenders to be submitted.

Well that Northumberland County Council is dodgy, it has been alleged that they gave the contracts out on a basis of the lowest bid which is likely the reason behind why the 15 is so terrible at operating and how local residents tend to no longer trust this service. Think it is time Nexus expanded out of Tyne and Wear.



GNE6312



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10 Jan 2019, 9:24 pm #697
(10 Jan 2019, 8:53 am)Cobalt271 I've heard that since PCL have had a run in with the Traffic Commissioner they have lost the 470/473 NCC contracts. I must stress this is mere speculation but the source of info is good.

I think pcl should just lose their license to operate with the stuff I have heard they do. These contracts (the services I know as I don't use pcl but what I heard and pearsonal expirience as I got put off bu the driver's appauiling attitude towards me and my friend I don't want to use them) without futher ado routes and suggested contractor

T1- Arriva ashington depot (dart or solo) revised to hourly

T1A/B/C- Arriva blyth depot each route runs off a 2 each revised to hourly per service

S1/2  Arriva ashington depot (no changes dart or solo allocated 

15/16 Arriva ashington depor(omnicity allocated)

470/473 border buses as previously suggested

882 gne (using optare solo srs)

The rest I don't know.
GNE6312
10 Jan 2019, 9:24 pm #697

(10 Jan 2019, 8:53 am)Cobalt271 I've heard that since PCL have had a run in with the Traffic Commissioner they have lost the 470/473 NCC contracts. I must stress this is mere speculation but the source of info is good.

I think pcl should just lose their license to operate with the stuff I have heard they do. These contracts (the services I know as I don't use pcl but what I heard and pearsonal expirience as I got put off bu the driver's appauiling attitude towards me and my friend I don't want to use them) without futher ado routes and suggested contractor

T1- Arriva ashington depot (dart or solo) revised to hourly

T1A/B/C- Arriva blyth depot each route runs off a 2 each revised to hourly per service

S1/2  Arriva ashington depot (no changes dart or solo allocated 

15/16 Arriva ashington depor(omnicity allocated)

470/473 border buses as previously suggested

882 gne (using optare solo srs)

The rest I don't know.

S830OFT



1,395
10 Jan 2019, 10:16 pm #698
(10 Jan 2019, 9:24 pm)GNE6312 I think pcl should just lose their license to operate with the stuff I have heard they do. These contracts (the services I know as I don't use pcl but what I heard and pearsonal expirience as I got put off bu the driver's appauiling attitude towards me and my friend I don't want to use them) without futher ado routes and suggested contractor

T1- Arriva ashington depot (dart or solo) revised to hourly

T1A/B/C- Arriva blyth depot each route runs off a 2 each revised to hourly per service

S1/2  Arriva ashington depot (no changes dart or solo allocated 

15/16 Arriva ashington depor(omnicity allocated)

470/473 border buses as previously suggested

882 gne (using optare solo srs)

The rest I don't know.

My suggestion of potential operators would be:
T1/A/B/C - Arriva Blyth - Each Journey would run off and onto the 2 adding 1 more bus to the PVR.

M1/A1 - These are commercial services, as such I can't have a say.

S1/S2: Withdrawn, Arriva to extend the 44 back to Morpeth under the hourly frequency.

15/16: Travelsure with a Optare Solo

815/882/885: Phoenix Coaches interworking with the 808.

613: Renumbered service 690 and will operate as normal between Hexham and Whittonstall, although will extend to Consett via Shotley Bridge. This service will continue to operate Tuesdays only.

689 Tuesday Journeys withdrawn and those will now operate as service 690.

267/464: Merged with 470/473 to form a combined service between Berwick and Alnwick via Wooler.

Hopefully if PCL was to collapse, hopefully similar suitable measures could be put in place.


S830OFT
10 Jan 2019, 10:16 pm #698

(10 Jan 2019, 9:24 pm)GNE6312 I think pcl should just lose their license to operate with the stuff I have heard they do. These contracts (the services I know as I don't use pcl but what I heard and pearsonal expirience as I got put off bu the driver's appauiling attitude towards me and my friend I don't want to use them) without futher ado routes and suggested contractor

T1- Arriva ashington depot (dart or solo) revised to hourly

T1A/B/C- Arriva blyth depot each route runs off a 2 each revised to hourly per service

S1/2  Arriva ashington depot (no changes dart or solo allocated 

15/16 Arriva ashington depor(omnicity allocated)

470/473 border buses as previously suggested

882 gne (using optare solo srs)

The rest I don't know.

My suggestion of potential operators would be:
T1/A/B/C - Arriva Blyth - Each Journey would run off and onto the 2 adding 1 more bus to the PVR.

M1/A1 - These are commercial services, as such I can't have a say.

S1/S2: Withdrawn, Arriva to extend the 44 back to Morpeth under the hourly frequency.

15/16: Travelsure with a Optare Solo

815/882/885: Phoenix Coaches interworking with the 808.

613: Renumbered service 690 and will operate as normal between Hexham and Whittonstall, although will extend to Consett via Shotley Bridge. This service will continue to operate Tuesdays only.

689 Tuesday Journeys withdrawn and those will now operate as service 690.

267/464: Merged with 470/473 to form a combined service between Berwick and Alnwick via Wooler.

Hopefully if PCL was to collapse, hopefully similar suitable measures could be put in place.



11 Jan 2019, 9:44 am #699
NCC are now in the process of re-tendering the routes, PCL end running the contracts at the end of the next school half term on the back of the hearing.

(10 Jan 2019, 3:11 pm)S830OFT Well that Northumberland County Council is dodgy, it has been alleged that they gave the contracts out on a basis of the lowest bid which is likely the reason behind why the 15 is so terrible at operating and how local residents tend to no longer trust this service. Think it is time Nexus expanded out of Tyne and Wear.

That's how the majority of councils and PTE's across the country give out tendered contracts - lowest bid wins. It's only until recently (the past two years is it?) that Nexus now take other factors into consideration in deciding the bid-winning operators - which is why the likes of Go North East have picked up vast amounts of school and passenger service contracts in recent years.


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RBZ 5459
11 Jan 2019, 9:44 am #699

NCC are now in the process of re-tendering the routes, PCL end running the contracts at the end of the next school half term on the back of the hearing.

(10 Jan 2019, 3:11 pm)S830OFT Well that Northumberland County Council is dodgy, it has been alleged that they gave the contracts out on a basis of the lowest bid which is likely the reason behind why the 15 is so terrible at operating and how local residents tend to no longer trust this service. Think it is time Nexus expanded out of Tyne and Wear.

That's how the majority of councils and PTE's across the country give out tendered contracts - lowest bid wins. It's only until recently (the past two years is it?) that Nexus now take other factors into consideration in deciding the bid-winning operators - which is why the likes of Go North East have picked up vast amounts of school and passenger service contracts in recent years.



RBZ5459 | flickr | THV

Pulsar



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11 Jan 2019, 9:58 am #700
Would be good to see Glen Valley get the Wooler routes back or possibly Borders Buses which could create new travel opportunities as they already operate Berwick to Wooler. 

Just to clarify is it just the 470 and 473 that PCL are losing or is it also the 15.

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Pulsar
11 Jan 2019, 9:58 am #700

Would be good to see Glen Valley get the Wooler routes back or possibly Borders Buses which could create new travel opportunities as they already operate Berwick to Wooler. 

Just to clarify is it just the 470 and 473 that PCL are losing or is it also the 15.


My Flickr Account - Photos from the North East and Beyond.

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