Durham Bus Stn
Durham Bus Stn
(14 Jan 2020, 6:18 pm)2bagstew I can seem to find any no consultation on DCC website, unless something drastic has happened planning has already been approved to start Summer 2020 but it to take up to 18 months depending on work needed.
All buses will on North Road with extra stands added for the duration.
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I thought it was missing at first too!
(14 Jan 2020, 6:18 pm)2bagstew I can seem to find any no consultation on DCC website, unless something drastic has happened planning has already been approved to start Summer 2020 but it to take up to 18 months depending on work needed.
All buses will on North Road with extra stands added for the duration.
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I thought it was missing at first too!
(14 Jan 2020, 6:20 pm)Adrian "To take part in the consultation online, visit www.durham.gov.uk/consultation from Friday 17 January and comment by 10pmon Sunday 9 February."
(14 Jan 2020, 6:20 pm)Adrian "To take part in the consultation online, visit www.durham.gov.uk/consultation from Friday 17 January and comment by 10pmon Sunday 9 February."
(14 Jan 2020, 2:48 pm)BusLoverMum I would want a mezzanine to be screened off or else people would probably chuck stuff off it.
(14 Jan 2020, 2:48 pm)BusLoverMum I would want a mezzanine to be screened off or else people would probably chuck stuff off it.
(14 Jan 2020, 6:29 pm)Adrian The issue is the lack of/ineffective security. They say it'll allow better surveillance or whatever, but not when the security guards are constantly outside having a smoke.
(14 Jan 2020, 6:29 pm)Adrian The issue is the lack of/ineffective security. They say it'll allow better surveillance or whatever, but not when the security guards are constantly outside having a smoke.
From an actual driver's point of view, will this be any different in terms of capacity or will it be the exact same mess of a layout when it comes to driving it with Arriva dumping buses on stands that aren't there's? I'm all for a nice new bus station for passengers, but considering how well executed South Shields is in terms of bus capacity I'm disappointed they seem to be using the same space.
(14 Jan 2020, 6:42 pm)deanmachine From an actual driver's point of view, will this be any different in terms of capacity or will it be the exact same mess of a layout when it comes to driving it with Arriva dumping buses on stands that aren't there's? I'm all for a nice new bus station for passengers, but considering how well executed South Shields is in terms of bus capacity I'm disappointed they seem to be using the same space.
(14 Jan 2020, 6:42 pm)deanmachine From an actual driver's point of view, will this be any different in terms of capacity or will it be the exact same mess of a layout when it comes to driving it with Arriva dumping buses on stands that aren't there's? I'm all for a nice new bus station for passengers, but considering how well executed South Shields is in terms of bus capacity I'm disappointed they seem to be using the same space.
(14 Jan 2020, 6:42 pm)deanmachine From an actual driver's point of view, will this be any different in terms of capacity or will it be the exact same mess of a layout when it comes to driving it with Arriva dumping buses on stands that aren't there's? I'm all for a nice new bus station for passengers, but considering how well executed South Shields is in terms of bus capacity I'm disappointed they seem to be using the same space.
(14 Jan 2020, 6:42 pm)deanmachine From an actual driver's point of view, will this be any different in terms of capacity or will it be the exact same mess of a layout when it comes to driving it with Arriva dumping buses on stands that aren't there's? I'm all for a nice new bus station for passengers, but considering how well executed South Shields is in terms of bus capacity I'm disappointed they seem to be using the same space.
They can't be putting all buses on North Road. It'd be lethal and the delays would be huge. I can imagine through services like the 64 and X21 picking up and dropping off on Millburngate Bridge or Wharton Park and missing that loop out entirely.
(14 Jan 2020, 7:44 pm)Adrian I haven't seen the plans in detail, so unsure, but I'm not sure how they'd do it on the same footprint.
(14 Jan 2020, 7:44 pm)Adrian I haven't seen the plans in detail, so unsure, but I'm not sure how they'd do it on the same footprint.
(15 Jan 2020, 9:17 am)2bagstew I have seen a plan if it’s the same plan that’s in the consultation then there will be the same No of stands as before.
They should move some of the 10 minute services to outside on North Road.
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(15 Jan 2020, 9:17 am)2bagstew I have seen a plan if it’s the same plan that’s in the consultation then there will be the same No of stands as before.
They should move some of the 10 minute services to outside on North Road.
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(15 Jan 2020, 12:15 pm)streetdeckfan The number of stands isn't necessarily the issue, it's the fact that Arriva drivers just abandon their buses in the stand so other services have to use the wrong stands. It's the same with North Road, you often see buses just parked there which makes it quite dangerous to cross the road after I've been to Cooplands!It's a number of issues really, that being one of them (not just Arriva I might add, seen 50/50A pull onto stand more than 10 minutes before departure time causing issues with stand allocations), others being: late running buses and stand clashes, currently stand K has points where the 7, X12 & X21 are all timed to be on that stand at the same time and you can imagine the chaos that creates especially when two of the three can't really layover due to being through services.
(15 Jan 2020, 12:15 pm)streetdeckfan The number of stands isn't necessarily the issue, it's the fact that Arriva drivers just abandon their buses in the stand so other services have to use the wrong stands. It's the same with North Road, you often see buses just parked there which makes it quite dangerous to cross the road after I've been to Cooplands!It's a number of issues really, that being one of them (not just Arriva I might add, seen 50/50A pull onto stand more than 10 minutes before departure time causing issues with stand allocations), others being: late running buses and stand clashes, currently stand K has points where the 7, X12 & X21 are all timed to be on that stand at the same time and you can imagine the chaos that creates especially when two of the three can't really layover due to being through services.
(15 Jan 2020, 12:42 pm)Jimmi It's a number of issues really, that being one of them (not just Arriva I might add, seen 50/50A pull onto stand more than 10 minutes before departure time causing issues with stand allocations), others being: late running buses and stand clashes, currently stand K has points where the 7, X12 & X21 are all timed to be on that stand at the same time and you can imagine the chaos that creates especially when two of the three can't really layover due to being through services.
One thing I would suggest with the design is to make it so it's not really possible to smoke, the entrance looks like a scally version of Stars in their Eyes at times, not a positive experience entering it and waiting there at night is not particularly nice either with the sort that hang around it.
(15 Jan 2020, 12:42 pm)Jimmi It's a number of issues really, that being one of them (not just Arriva I might add, seen 50/50A pull onto stand more than 10 minutes before departure time causing issues with stand allocations), others being: late running buses and stand clashes, currently stand K has points where the 7, X12 & X21 are all timed to be on that stand at the same time and you can imagine the chaos that creates especially when two of the three can't really layover due to being through services.
One thing I would suggest with the design is to make it so it's not really possible to smoke, the entrance looks like a scally version of Stars in their Eyes at times, not a positive experience entering it and waiting there at night is not particularly nice either with the sort that hang around it.
(15 Jan 2020, 12:42 pm)Jimmi It's a number of issues really, that being one of them (not just Arriva I might add, seen 50/50A pull onto stand more than 10 minutes before departure time causing issues with stand allocations), others being: late running buses and stand clashes, currently stand K has points where the 7, X12 & X21 are all timed to be on that stand at the same time and you can imagine the chaos that creates especially when two of the three can't really layover due to being through services.
One thing I would suggest with the design is to make it so it's not really possible to smoke, the entrance looks like a scally version of Stars in their Eyes at times, not a positive experience entering it and waiting there at night is not particularly nice either with the sort that hang around it.
(15 Jan 2020, 12:42 pm)Jimmi It's a number of issues really, that being one of them (not just Arriva I might add, seen 50/50A pull onto stand more than 10 minutes before departure time causing issues with stand allocations), others being: late running buses and stand clashes, currently stand K has points where the 7, X12 & X21 are all timed to be on that stand at the same time and you can imagine the chaos that creates especially when two of the three can't really layover due to being through services.
One thing I would suggest with the design is to make it so it's not really possible to smoke, the entrance looks like a scally version of Stars in their Eyes at times, not a positive experience entering it and waiting there at night is not particularly nice either with the sort that hang around it.
I hope they have better toilet facilities for a start. I visited South Shields interchange for the first time at the weekend and was surprised at the lack of toilets.
A travel / tourist information shop would be a good idea for Durham bus station. They used to have a well stocked travel shop at the bus station entrance. It is now a cafe.
Durham bus station needs to be a showpiece for the city given it's reliance on visitors and tourists.
Charles
Just to illustrate the stand dumping thing
43 in stand E. An unattended 22 is occupying D
X46 on G
49 on H.
6 in K
(16 Jan 2020, 9:32 am)BusLoverMum Just to illustrate the stand dumping thing
43 in stand E. An unattended 22 is occupying D
X46 on G
49 on H.
6 in K
(16 Jan 2020, 9:32 am)BusLoverMum Just to illustrate the stand dumping thing
43 in stand E. An unattended 22 is occupying D
X46 on G
49 on H.
6 in K
(16 Jan 2020, 1:52 pm)deanmachine Arriva have their training coach in now causing havoc too. All fun and games.
(16 Jan 2020, 1:52 pm)deanmachine Arriva have their training coach in now causing havoc too. All fun and games.
(16 Jan 2020, 1:53 pm)streetdeckfan Is that the training decker I've been seen driving around or another one?
(16 Jan 2020, 1:53 pm)streetdeckfan Is that the training decker I've been seen driving around or another one?
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