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Train8261



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16 Jan 2022, 11:45 am #1
A thread for Metro Replacement for 2022. First two metro replacement are

12th & 13th February Airport to South Gosforth 

19th & 20th February Chichester to South Shields

No timetable has been posted yet so no idea who has them
Train8261
16 Jan 2022, 11:45 am #1

A thread for Metro Replacement for 2022. First two metro replacement are

12th & 13th February Airport to South Gosforth 

19th & 20th February Chichester to South Shields

No timetable has been posted yet so no idea who has them

Dan

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16 Jan 2022, 12:52 pm #2
JH coaches are operating 12/13 February, Go North East are operating 19/20 February.
Dan
16 Jan 2022, 12:52 pm #2

JH coaches are operating 12/13 February, Go North East are operating 19/20 February.

Omega54



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16 Jan 2022, 1:03 pm #3
(16 Jan 2022, 12:52 pm)Dan JH coaches are operating 12/13 February, Go North East are operating 19/20 February.
Do we know anything about the Metro Contract which required like 23 buses for ages?
Omega54
16 Jan 2022, 1:03 pm #3

(16 Jan 2022, 12:52 pm)Dan JH coaches are operating 12/13 February, Go North East are operating 19/20 February.
Do we know anything about the Metro Contract which required like 23 buses for ages?

Dan

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18,114
16 Jan 2022, 1:10 pm #4
(16 Jan 2022, 1:03 pm)Omega54 Do we know anything about the Metro Contract which required like 23 buses for ages?

The contract was offered to an operator on Friday, and it's now the 10-day standstill period before the contract is formally awarded.
Dan
16 Jan 2022, 1:10 pm #4

(16 Jan 2022, 1:03 pm)Omega54 Do we know anything about the Metro Contract which required like 23 buses for ages?

The contract was offered to an operator on Friday, and it's now the 10-day standstill period before the contract is formally awarded.

Train8261



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16 Jan 2022, 8:22 pm #5
(16 Jan 2022, 1:10 pm)Dan The contract was offered to an operator on Friday, and it's now the 10-day standstill period before the contract is formally awarded.
So how long do we have to wait to find out which company has to suffer for 3 months
Train8261
16 Jan 2022, 8:22 pm #5

(16 Jan 2022, 1:10 pm)Dan The contract was offered to an operator on Friday, and it's now the 10-day standstill period before the contract is formally awarded.
So how long do we have to wait to find out which company has to suffer for 3 months

Adrian



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16 Jan 2022, 9:24 pm #6
(16 Jan 2022, 8:22 pm)Train8261 So how long do we have to wait to find out which company has to suffer for 3 months

Read the post you've quoted. The answer is there.

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Adrian
16 Jan 2022, 9:24 pm #6

(16 Jan 2022, 8:22 pm)Train8261 So how long do we have to wait to find out which company has to suffer for 3 months

Read the post you've quoted. The answer is there.


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18 Jan 2022, 11:14 pm #7
(16 Jan 2022, 1:10 pm)Dan The contract was offered to an operator on Friday, and it's now the 10-day standstill period before the contract is formally awarded.

Surely it can't/shouldn't be GNE only because of recent driver problems and reducing timetables as last resort etc... Otherwise wouldn't be against it.
logidoodah
18 Jan 2022, 11:14 pm #7

(16 Jan 2022, 1:10 pm)Dan The contract was offered to an operator on Friday, and it's now the 10-day standstill period before the contract is formally awarded.

Surely it can't/shouldn't be GNE only because of recent driver problems and reducing timetables as last resort etc... Otherwise wouldn't be against it.

Train8261



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18 Jan 2022, 11:54 pm #8
(18 Jan 2022, 11:14 pm)logidoodah Surely it can't/shouldn't be GNE only because of recent driver problems and reducing timetables as last resort etc... Otherwise wouldn't be against it.
Is it possible that it might not be a North East company
Train8261
18 Jan 2022, 11:54 pm #8

(18 Jan 2022, 11:14 pm)logidoodah Surely it can't/shouldn't be GNE only because of recent driver problems and reducing timetables as last resort etc... Otherwise wouldn't be against it.
Is it possible that it might not be a North East company

19 Jan 2022, 11:19 am #9
(18 Jan 2022, 11:54 pm)Train8261 Is it possible that it might not be a North East company

If GNE were awarded this, could it be joint with EYMS.

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19 Jan 2022, 11:19 am #9

(18 Jan 2022, 11:54 pm)Train8261 Is it possible that it might not be a North East company

If GNE were awarded this, could it be joint with EYMS.


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Adrian



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19 Jan 2022, 11:44 am #10
(18 Jan 2022, 11:14 pm)logidoodah Surely it can't/shouldn't be GNE only because of recent driver problems and reducing timetables as last resort etc... Otherwise wouldn't be against it.

You can't prevent an operator from bidding because they have short-term sickness. It's up to the operator to fulfil their end of the contract, and of course you'd expect them to take into account resourcing when bidding for such work. 

(18 Jan 2022, 11:54 pm)Train8261 Is it possible that it might not be a North East company

I can't see why it would be? The additional costs would be astronomical, if you're not relatively local to the work. An operator from outside the North East would really need to find somewhere to store buses overnight, and would have to pay drivers expenses and overnight accommodation for being away from home. Otherwise you end up having to drive a shed load of light mileage a day and pay drivers whilst they do that, which in turn minimises the amount of time they are available for the revenue generating work (due to driver hours)

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Adrian
19 Jan 2022, 11:44 am #10

(18 Jan 2022, 11:14 pm)logidoodah Surely it can't/shouldn't be GNE only because of recent driver problems and reducing timetables as last resort etc... Otherwise wouldn't be against it.

You can't prevent an operator from bidding because they have short-term sickness. It's up to the operator to fulfil their end of the contract, and of course you'd expect them to take into account resourcing when bidding for such work. 

(18 Jan 2022, 11:54 pm)Train8261 Is it possible that it might not be a North East company

I can't see why it would be? The additional costs would be astronomical, if you're not relatively local to the work. An operator from outside the North East would really need to find somewhere to store buses overnight, and would have to pay drivers expenses and overnight accommodation for being away from home. Otherwise you end up having to drive a shed load of light mileage a day and pay drivers whilst they do that, which in turn minimises the amount of time they are available for the revenue generating work (due to driver hours)


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Train8261



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19 Jan 2022, 4:06 pm #11
But I can't see the contact going to just one operator as that's 3 months of them going between South Shields & Heworth

Possible GNE&Jh Coaches with help by Stanley Travel & L&G Coaches and maybe the odd L&B bus
Train8261
19 Jan 2022, 4:06 pm #11

But I can't see the contact going to just one operator as that's 3 months of them going between South Shields & Heworth

Possible GNE&Jh Coaches with help by Stanley Travel & L&G Coaches and maybe the odd L&B bus

Dan

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19 Jan 2022, 4:09 pm #12
(19 Jan 2022, 4:06 pm)Train8261 But I can't see the contact going to just one operator as that's 3 months of them going between South Shields & Heworth

Possible GNE&Jh Coaches with help by Stanley Travel & L&G Coaches and maybe the odd L&B bus

The contract has been offered to one single operator. The operator is entitled to sub-contract out, but the sub-contractor will need to have a vehicle of the same specification as required in the contract. The minimum was an 84-capacity Euro 5 bus (of which there aren't many in the North East).
Dan
19 Jan 2022, 4:09 pm #12

(19 Jan 2022, 4:06 pm)Train8261 But I can't see the contact going to just one operator as that's 3 months of them going between South Shields & Heworth

Possible GNE&Jh Coaches with help by Stanley Travel & L&G Coaches and maybe the odd L&B bus

The contract has been offered to one single operator. The operator is entitled to sub-contract out, but the sub-contractor will need to have a vehicle of the same specification as required in the contract. The minimum was an 84-capacity Euro 5 bus (of which there aren't many in the North East).

Train8261



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19 Jan 2022, 4:12 pm #13
(19 Jan 2022, 4:09 pm)Dan The contract has been offered to one single operator. The operator is entitled to sub-contract out, but the sub-contractor will need to have a vehicle of the same specification as required in the contract. The minimum was an 84-capacity Euro 5 bus (of which there aren't many in the North East).
Is it rare for a contract to require NSA (with what GNE had on the 5th December)
Train8261
19 Jan 2022, 4:12 pm #13

(19 Jan 2022, 4:09 pm)Dan The contract has been offered to one single operator. The operator is entitled to sub-contract out, but the sub-contractor will need to have a vehicle of the same specification as required in the contract. The minimum was an 84-capacity Euro 5 bus (of which there aren't many in the North East).
Is it rare for a contract to require NSA (with what GNE had on the 5th December)

Omega54



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19 Jan 2022, 5:28 pm #14
(19 Jan 2022, 4:09 pm)Dan The contract has been offered to one single operator. The operator is entitled to sub-contract out, but the sub-contractor will need to have a vehicle of the same specification as required in the contract. The minimum was an 84-capacity Euro 5 bus (of which there aren't many in the North East).
Wasn't it a PVR of 22 or 23?
Omega54
19 Jan 2022, 5:28 pm #14

(19 Jan 2022, 4:09 pm)Dan The contract has been offered to one single operator. The operator is entitled to sub-contract out, but the sub-contractor will need to have a vehicle of the same specification as required in the contract. The minimum was an 84-capacity Euro 5 bus (of which there aren't many in the North East).
Wasn't it a PVR of 22 or 23?

Train8261



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24 Jan 2022, 6:55 pm #15
Metro Replacement has slightly been configured for the 5th & 6th of March by Stagecoach on the website showing a closure of Fawdon level crossing

https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-up...:53:01:813
Train8261
24 Jan 2022, 6:55 pm #15

Metro Replacement has slightly been configured for the 5th & 6th of March by Stagecoach on the website showing a closure of Fawdon level crossing

https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-up...:53:01:813

Omega54



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11 Mar 2022, 9:48 am #16
Anyone know who won that massive rail replacement, the one which needs like 25 vehicles .
Omega54
11 Mar 2022, 9:48 am #16

Anyone know who won that massive rail replacement, the one which needs like 25 vehicles .

 
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