North East Buses

My mate has overheard some info, apparently 23 E400MMCs have been ordered for the 39/40 leaving the E400 hybrids to transfer to Slatyford to replace older buses. Can’t comfirm or deny this

(30 Nov 2019, 1:48 pm)JM03 wrote [ -> ]My mate has overheard some info, apparently 23 E400MMCs have been ordered for the 39/40 leaving the E400 hybrids to transfer to Slatyford to replace older buses. Can’t comfirm or deny this

Already confirmed on the latest news thread. But stated the hybrids moving out of region not to Slatyford.

(30 Nov 2019, 7:12 pm)ifm001 wrote [ -> ]Already confirmed on the latest news thread. But stated the hybrids moving out of region not to Slatyford.

Hybrids are staying in Newcastle and are to be upgraded or may have been already.

(30 Nov 2019, 7:12 pm)ifm001 wrote [ -> ]Already confirmed on the latest news thread. But stated the hybrids moving out of region not to Slatyford.

Actually, stated that the oldest E400s are leaving the region - the Hybrids aren't leaving.

(30 Nov 2019, 7:21 pm)Kuyoyo wrote [ -> ]Actually, stated that the oldest E400s are leaving the region - the Hybrids aren't leaving.

Shame 3 or 4 won't be heading to Sunderland for the X24.

(09 Dec 2019, 3:43 pm)Michael wrote [ -> ]Shame 3 or 4 won't be heading to Sunderland for the X24.

I think it's to with the clean air zone which the X24 enters I was kind of hoping they would order gas deckers for the X24/X34

(09 Dec 2019, 4:56 pm)Ds1197 wrote [ -> ]I think it's to with the clean air zone which the X24 enters I was kind of hoping they would order gas deckers for the X24/X34

And some for the Economic services


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(09 Dec 2019, 5:16 pm)cbma06 wrote [ -> ]And some for the Economic services


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They don't really need them most of the time. Although if Sunderland had say 20 gas E400s ordered for use on the X24/X34 first then other busier services in Sunderland, and for use on the Es in the summer/bank holidays, that would be perfect. Don't think Stagecoach NE could make the business case for that though.

Has anyone heard anything yet about stockton Stockton e200mmc 26280 as it has been off road since September 20th

6 new E400's for the X24/X34 + (1 spare) = 7

WIFI, USB ports, same seats as the Enviro 400's on the 39/40, stop announcements (when traveling between the non stop area's, adverts will flash, about tickets, upcoming changes)

(05 Jan 2020, 1:41 pm)Michael wrote [ -> ]6 new E400's for the X24/X34 + (1 spare) = 7

WIFI, USB ports, same seats as the Enviro 400's on the 39/40, stop announcements (when traveling between the non stop area's, adverts will flash, about tickets, upcoming changes)

I wonder what happened about the gas decker bus that was trialled at Sunderland, must of changed there minds


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(05 Jan 2020, 2:01 pm)cbma06 wrote [ -> ]I wonder what happened about the gas decker bus that was trialled at Sunderland, must of changed there minds


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Probables have but, was hoping it would come back in the future but i don't think that's not gonna happen now.

(05 Jan 2020, 2:01 pm)cbma06 wrote [ -> ]I wonder what happened about the gas decker bus that was trialled at Sunderland, must of changed there minds


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I would say that technology is rapidly moving on from gas to be honest, and that’s what Stagecoach have realised.


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(05 Jan 2020, 2:52 pm)Dan wrote [ -> ]I would say that technology is rapidly moving on from gas to be honest, and that’s what Stagecoach have realised.


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If so, i wonder, how an electric bus would cope on the X24/X34?

what sort of range are these new GNE electric buses advertised as having? do they have a diesel engine as "back up" in case they run out of electric?

(05 Jan 2020, 3:17 pm)Rob44 wrote [ -> ]what sort of range are these new GNE electric buses advertised as having? do they have a diesel engine as "back up" in case they run out of electric?

Full electric, the ones on order were 374Kwh but after 6 months Yotung upgraded the batter to 422Kwh, which is what GNE will now get.

Info from Bus and Coach magazine - 10th December 2019.

(05 Jan 2020, 3:17 pm)Rob44 wrote [ -> ]what sort of range are these new GNE electric buses advertised as having? do they have a diesel engine as "back up" in case they run out of electric?

Most in the trade press are hawked at 150-180 miles.  Battery technology is advancing quickly though, so this is increasing all of the time.  I believe the GNE ones are pure electric (including heating).

Brighton and Hove have recently taken delivery of Range Extended double deckers (E400 MMCs).  These run in pure electric mode through a geo-fenced area, and diesel outwith.  Not sure if this option exists on any single decker offerings.

Are the hybrids keeping the green interior, with blue seats? I love the new 39/40 interior, although it doesn't look very Stagecoach. I wonder if the new buses will be on the other Walkergate services.

order suggestion to allow a greener higher coppacity service in Newcastle

Order:
Viechle type:Volvo B8L/E400XLB
Intended depot:Walkergate/Slatyford
Quantity:20 for walkergate 6 for Slatyford
Allocation: full PVR of the 12 & any not on the 12 to be put on walkergate's busiest boards and used as spares (Walkergate batch) 100 anything else not on the 100 spare (Slatyford batch)
Disolacements: 19214-19/85-89/30-37 to Sunderland for the Es to allow 20 of Sunderland's E300s to transfer to Slatyford to replace 39725-32 & the 17 worst condition ALX300s in both Newcastle depots this will also allow extra hybrids to be allocated to the 38 allowing the newer E400s to be allocated to the 1
Livery to be worn: SC local (Walkergate batch) SC express (slatyfird batch) 
Service changes to accommodate these viechles: All journeys on the 12 will be extended to Wallsend due to the terminus at walker bring to tight for an XLB to get around All journeys terminating at walker will be extended to Wallsend the Slatyford batch will displace the SP08 reg E300s elsewhere on the UK
Features: Audio Visual announcements, USB chcharging also all seats (including front, back & seats above the axels) will be E-leather ADL smart seats

51 Alexander Enviro 200MMC's 10.8m or BYD Enviro 200's to replace all of the MAN 14.240 LF Enviro 200's across various depots.

30 Alexander Enviro 200MMC's 11.5m to replace all remaining MAN Alexander ALX300's/Scania K270UB Omnilinks on the X24/MAN Enviro 300's on the 100

40 Scania N280UD Alexander Dennis Enviro 400 CNG or BYD Enviro 400 City's for E1/E2/E6 & X34 & Peak Journey's on Services 3/12/13/16 & 20 to give extra capacity releasing (20) Scania K270UB Enviro 300's on to Sunderland based services 4/23 which would then release the 63 reg Enviro 200's to be reallocated to Slatyford for the 10/11/71/72 with Euro 6 upgrade.