Dan has asked on Facebook, if anyone has photo's of certain buses for their new timetables from the 5th September.
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Daniel
?❗️ PHOTO APPEAL ❗️ ?
Hello folks,
At Go North East we're currently typesetting individual timetables for all of our services, which will be added online and also in print, for the next set of service revisions taking place from 5 September 2020.
Our style-sheet allows for a photo of a bus to be added to the front cover, and we thought what better way to engage with the enthusiast community, than to invite everyone to showcase one of their photos on the front cover.
If you have any of the photographs below and would like us to showcase your photo on the front cover, please send the high-resolution image to daniel.graham@gonortheast.co.uk.
Obviously as the timetable is a promotional piece, the bus will need to be in good condition (no body damage, no missing vinyls, and preference would be that the wheels on the bus are clean and tidy).
Thanks in advance!?
Images required are as follows:
- 1A/1B (Coaster Hybrid)
- 2/2A (Black Cats Streetlite)
- 4 (Connections4 Citaro)
- 5 (2019 fleet livery Omnicity)
- 6/6A (2019 fleet livery Citaro)
- 9 (2019 fleet livery Citaro)
- 10/A/B/X (Tyne Valley Ten Volvo B9)
- 12/12A (2019 fleet livery Citaro)
- 13 (2019 fleet livery Omnicity)
- 20 (Prince Bishops Streetlite)
- 21 (Angel StreetDeck)
- 25 (2019 fleet livery Omnicity)
- 28/28A (2016 fleet livery Versa)
- 29 (Fleet livery Versa)
- 30/31/32 (2016 fleet livery Solo)
- 33 (2016 fleet livery Solo)
- 33/33A (2019 fleet livery Streetlite)
- 34 (2019 fleet livery Omnicity)
- 35/35A (2019 fleet livery Citaro)
- 38/38A (2016 fleet livery Solo)
- 39/39A (Black Cats Streetlite)
- 49/49A (49 Streetlite, with no '49' roundel on the back).
- 50/50A (2019 fleet livery Omnicity)
- 53/54 (Saltwell Park Streetlite)
- 55 (2019 fleet livery Citaro)
- 56 (Fab56 Volvo B9)
- 57 (Citylink57 Citaro)
- 58 (Citylink58 Versa)
- 60 (Drifter Streetlite)
- 61 (2019 fleet livery Citaro)
- 67 (2016 fleet livery Versa)
- 69 (2016 fleet livery Versa)
- 71 (2016 fleet livery Solo)
- 93/94 (2016 fleet livery Versa)
- 309/310/311 (Cobalt & Coast branded Volvo B9, ideally without adverts)
- M6/M7/M8 (2016 fleet livery Versa)
- Q1/Q2 (Quaylink branded Versa)
- Q3 (Quaylink branded Versa)
- X6/X7 (2016/2019 fleet livery Solo)
- X66 (X66 Streetlite)
Is there a deadline for this as I would like to contribute some images when I get out of Hospital on Wednesday (All being well)
(17 Aug 2020, 8:19 pm)Rapidsnap wrote [ -> ]Is there a deadline for this as I would like to contribute some images when I get out of Hospital on Wednesday (All being well)
Not sure but i would imagine it would be soon.
Hope all is well, and you're out of hospital soon
Do they have to be taken from a particular angle to match with the rest, I'd imagine they all have to have pretty similar composition so they don't stand out
What changes are there happening?
Are there any major changes or are we talking about restoration of evening frequencies only?
(18 Aug 2020, 3:11 pm)DH9 wrote [ -> ]What changes are there happening?
Are there any major changes or are we talking about restoration of evening frequencies only?
Looks like the X9/X10 timetable has already been updated, changed it to the 7th September and it has Newcastle St Andrew's Church, instead of Eldon Square... the PDF has not been updated yet.
But no idea on the changes, only confirmed one was the X9/X10, not serving Eldon Square.
(18 Aug 2020, 3:40 pm)Michael wrote [ -> ]Looks like the X9/X10 timetable has already been updated, changed it to the 7th September and it has Newcastle St Andrew's Church, instead of Eldon Square... the PDF has not been updated yet.
But no idea on the changes, only confirmed one was the X9/X10, not serving Eldon Square.
Looks like the journeys to new college on the 16 and X15 are duped. 815 operating from Shotley bridge and the 816 operating from Consett, 2 journeys towards Consett
(18 Aug 2020, 3:45 pm)Stanleyone wrote [ -> ]Looks like the journeys to new college on the 16 and X15 are duped. 815 operating from Shotley bridge and the 816 operating from Consett, 2 journeys towards Consett
Thanks for the info, i'm trying to compare the timetables but its pointless, because some are uploaded and some isn't, best of just waiting for the changes to be announced.
I've gone through a few. The changes from 7th September seem to be mainly restoration of late evening journeys.
(18 Aug 2020, 4:11 pm)DH9 wrote [ -> ]I've gone through a few. The changes from 7th September seem to be mainly restoration of late evening journeys.
A few things I found
The N21 will be coming back from the 11th
There's a new 821X service between Spennymoor and Fram in the mornings, and Fram and Bishop in the evenings.
Wonder if we'll see the X22 make a comeback
Very surprised that the 309 has been kept at xx:20 rather than it's usual xx:45 slot during the evenings. First time since 2008/2009 though that GNE have operated the full service from Newcastle through to Blyth though after 10pm with the exception of the Saturday night journeys between 2009-2012.
Where are you viewing these service changes
(18 Aug 2020, 11:16 pm)Acky81 wrote [ -> ]Where are you viewing these service changes
Just skipping ahead to 7th September onwards on the timetable pages for each service.
Some of the new services are already showing on the service list.
(18 Aug 2020, 5:23 pm)L469 YVK wrote [ -> ]Very surprised that the 309 has been kept at xx:20 rather than it's usual xx:45 slot during the evenings. First time since 2008/2009 though that GNE have operated the full service from Newcastle through to Blyth though after 10pm with the exception of the Saturday night journeys between 2009-2012.
Nice to see we're keeping a nice even service between Newcastle and Whitley / Tynemouth on the 2 Coast Road services, oh wait...
308: XX:12
309: XX:20
306: XX:42
310: XX:40
Tweet from Dan this morning
The Commercial Team is working hard to make sure we're in the best position to be 'September ready' as we reinstate even more late evening journeys in our next ramp up of timetables. We've created some new maps and timetables which show integration with @My_Metro and Ferry.??⛴️
https://twitter.com/Dan3942/status/12960...12514?s=19
The Durham Cathedral bus appears to be making a comeback as well from 7th September.
(19 Aug 2020, 9:08 am)Storx wrote [ -> ]Nice to see we're keeping a nice even service between Newcastle and Whitley / Tynemouth on the 2 Coast Road services, oh wait...
308: XX:12
309: XX:20
306: XX:42
310: XX:40
Don't think this is intentional. GoNE need to run the 309 & 310 at the given times for the following reasons:
- Cobalt shift patterns towards Newcastle / Blyth - if run any earlier then workers would be left stranded at Cobalt. Blyth passengers will have longer wait but demand less than towards Newcastle.
- 310 additionally serving Hadrian Park - only other option would be a longer layover in North Shields and extra journeys on the 309 would also need to be run to allow increased running time & layover later into the evening if not interworked with service 310.
If GNE really wanted to spoil the party for Arriva, they would've re-timed the 309 to run before the 308.
(19 Aug 2020, 3:31 pm)L469 YVK wrote [ -> ]Don't think this is intentional. GoNE need to run the 309 & 310 at the given times for the following reasons:- Cobalt shift patterns towards Newcastle / Blyth - if run any earlier then workers would be left stranded at Cobalt. Blyth passengers will have longer wait but demand less than towards Newcastle.
- 310 additionally serving Hadrian Park - only other option would be a longer layover in North Shields and extra journeys on the 309 would also need to be run to allow increased running time & layover later into the evening if not interworked with service 310.
If GNE really wanted to spoil the party for Arriva, they would've re-timed the 309 to run before the 308.
Push them both back 20 minutes, at the end of the day even known demand is down loads the evening service on the Coast Road is extremely poor. You have to remember it used to be 8 buses* along here an hour which is pretty much turn up and go. Now it might aswell be 2 buses an hour. For someone not using a bus in awhile its a big change and one which seriously might make you consider using the route your all taking.
It's all good being good for Cobalt, but it's a bit pointless when it's empty from Newcastle -> Cobalt as everyone is using the 306/308 as it's cheaper, quicker and runs later and runs in front of the 309 by 8 mins. It's been like this all through lockdown on Saturdays and Sundays aswell with them following each other and the 309 being empty.
Arriva is at blame as much here though as they could easily flip them around the other way especially when their accepting each other tickets and aren't running their normal timetables anyway. The only loser here is us, the customer.
* 57(2), 306(2), 308(2), 309(1), 310(1)
X21 doesn't seem (the last time I looked) to be having its very late evening services restored.
794 now going to be operated by Weardale.
It looks like they've added a few new school services too
Looks like extra late runs are being added to the 71:
19:28/20:28 from Houghton to Chester - Le -Street
and
18:58/19:58/20:58 - from Chester to Houghton
(20 Aug 2020, 8:57 am)DH9 wrote [ -> ]X21 doesn't seem (the last time I looked) to be having its very late evening services restored.
794 now going to be operated by Weardale.
They could perhaps be restored at a later date if the 21 was terminated at Chester Le Street during the evenings with timed connections between the 2x services for people needing to travel to and from stops that aren't served by the X21.
(20 Aug 2020, 4:57 pm)Michael wrote [ -> ]It looks like they've added a few new school services too
Looks like extra late runs are being added to the 71:
19:28/20:28 from Houghton to Chester - Le -Street
and
18:58/19:58/20:58 - from Chester to Houghton
There used to be service 36 journeys at similar times, secured by Durham CC from memory.
(20 Aug 2020, 8:57 am)DH9 wrote [ -> ]X21 doesn't seem (the last time I looked) to be having its very late evening services restored.
794 now going to be operated by Weardale.
X1 does not look to be going back to normal either (only hourly late evening), nor does the 21 between Newcastle and Chester-le-Street
Apologies as I've mentioned this before but when the full 6 & X30 evening services are restored Mon-Sat, would it not make sense (until presumably the Saltwell Park StreetLites become free) to swap out the Mercs at the Metro Centre and use either a StreetLite (49's) or Green Arrow E200MMC?
Would certainly go some way to reduce the running costs during the evenings.
(22 Aug 2020, 10:21 pm)L469 YVK wrote [ -> ]Apologies as I've mentioned this before but when the full 6 & X30 evening services are restored Mon-Sat, would it not make sense (until presumably the Saltwell Park StreetLites become free) to swap out the Mercs at the Metro Centre and use either a StreetLite (49's) or Green Arrow E200MMC?
Would certainly go some way to reduce the running costs during the evenings.
I think GNE would want to keep a consistent X lines branded service for the X30. There would be an upgrade for passengers from a Citaro to a 200 MMC or a Streetlite, but as the 6 & X30 interwork during the evening, I would rather them use the newer X lines double deckers, which are fuel efficient anyway. Also on weekends it will mean that more passengers can be (socially distanced) carried, and less chance of having to send out an extra bus on the 6A because it’s full and the next ones 2 hours away!
(22 Aug 2020, 10:59 pm)Adtrainsam wrote [ -> ]I think GNE would want to keep a consistent X lines branded service for the X30. There would be an upgrade for passengers from a Citaro to a 200 MMC or a Streetlite, but as the 6 & X30 interwork during the evening, I would rather them use the newer X lines double deckers, which are fuel efficient anyway. Also on weekends it will mean that more passengers can be (socially distanced) carried, and less chance of having to send out an extra bus on the 6A because it’s full and the next ones 2 hours away!
The only time the 6A & X30 interworks is during the evening with all journeys run by Riverside. Mon-Sat journeys are operated standalone by Riverside (service 6 - Citaros) and Consett (X30 - E400MMC). By the looks of things, the X30 will interwork with the X71 on Sundays using either Durham Diamond StreetLites or E400MMCs (more likely the latter with social distancing needed).
I was more on about evening journeys on the 6A & X30 usi g fuel hungry Citaros and the fact that swapping for a StreetLite or E200MMC would reduce fuel bills until newer vehicles become available.
(22 Aug 2020, 10:21 pm)L469 YVK wrote [ -> ]Apologies as I've mentioned this before but when the full 6 & X30 evening services are restored Mon-Sat, would it not make sense (until presumably the Saltwell Park StreetLites become free) to swap out the Mercs at the Metro Centre and use either a StreetLite (49's) or Green Arrow E200MMC?
Would certainly go some way to reduce the running costs during the evenings.
If you have say the same folk catching the same bus every night (say travelling home from work) to/from Newcastle, every night they would have to get off one bus and onto another - all you would be doing is peeing these folk off
(23 Aug 2020, 6:43 am)citaro5284 wrote [ -> ]If you have say the same folk catching the same bus every night (say travelling home from work) to/from Newcastle, every night they would have to get off one bus and onto another - all you would be doing is peeing these folk off
It wouldn't be that much of a problem. Would mainly affect users of the 6/6A as the buses would be swapped at the MetroCentre. And the defect report would be already completed earlier in the day before the vehicle was used on either the 49's or 97.
(23 Aug 2020, 7:36 am)L469 YVK wrote [ -> ]It wouldn't be that much of a problem. Would mainly affect users of the 6/6A as the buses would be swapped at the MetroCentre. And the defect report would be already completed earlier in the day before the vehicle was used on either the 49's or 97.
I think you are missing the point, say I get the same bus every night from Newcastle, and then every night when the bus gets to the Metrocentre I got to get off the bus I just got on and get onto something else. Defect reporting would have nothing to do with it, it is all about the passenger having to swap buses every night, as it would have to be scheduled into the duty boards.