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These have appeared on Bustimes.org


20S - Sunderland - Framwellgate Moor (college) via East Herrington, Houghton-le-Spring, East Rainton, West Rainton, Belmont - 1 run AM/1 run PM

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265S - Seaham - Durham via New Seaham, Dalton Park, Murton, Hetton-le-Hole, Low Moorsley, Low Pittington, Belmont - 1 run AM/1 run PM

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16S - https://bustimes.org/services/16s-conset...uth-stanle

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28S - Pelton Schools - Lord Lawson of Beamish Academy via Perkinsville, Urpeth Grange, Ouston

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50S - Washington - Durham via Chester-le-Street, Waldridge Park, Arnison Centre

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X21S - Spennymoor - Durham - Framwellgate Moor

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X15S - Shotley Bridge - Durham via Consett, Leadgate, Lanchester, Witton Gilbert
(20 Aug 2020, 6:53 pm)Michael wrote [ -> ]These have appeared on Bustimes.org


20S - Sunderland - Framwellgate Moor (college) via East Herrington, Houghton-le-Spring, East Rainton, West Rainton, Belmont - 1 run AM/1 run PM

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265S - Seaham - Durham via New Seaham, Dalton Park, Murton, Hetton-le-Hole, Low Moorsley, Low Pittington, Belmont - 1 run AM/1 run PM

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16S - https://bustimes.org/services/16s-conset...uth-stanle

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28S - Pelton Schools - Lord Lawson of Beamish Academy via Perkinsville, Urpeth Grange, Ouston

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50S - Washington - Durham via Chester-le-Street, Waldridge Park, Arnison Centre

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X21S - Spennymoor - Durham - Framwellgate Moor

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X15S - Shotley Bridge - Durham via Consett, Leadgate, Lanchester, Witton Gilbert

Looks like they've renamed the 821X to the X21S. I wonder if it's a contracted service because I'm fairly sure Arriva ran a service exactly like that
(20 Aug 2020, 8:07 pm)streetdeckfan wrote [ -> ]Looks like they've renamed the 821X to the X21S. I wonder if it's a contracted service because I'm fairly sure Arriva ran a service exactly like that

Surely these are just extra services for New College Durham for Covid and social distancing, since they'd fill the normal bus and are all terminating there. The 28 extra I guess is for the school at Stanley from Ouston and Pelton.
(20 Aug 2020, 8:24 pm)Storx wrote [ -> ]Surely these are just extra services for New College Durham for Covid and social distancing, since they'd fill the normal bus and are all terminating there. The 28 extra I guess is for the school at Stanley from Ouston and Pelton. 

Nah, it's to Lord Lawson. Ran for a few years now.
(20 Aug 2020, 8:30 pm)Andreos1 wrote [ -> ]Nah, it's to Lord Lawson. Ran for a few years now.

Ah my mistake, mixed the schools up.
(20 Aug 2020, 6:53 pm)Michael wrote [ -> ]These have appeared on Bustimes.org


20S - Sunderland - Framwellgate Moor (college) via East Herrington, Houghton-le-Spring, East Rainton, West Rainton, Belmont - 1 run AM/1 run PM

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265S - Seaham - Durham via New Seaham, Dalton Park, Murton, Hetton-le-Hole, Low Moorsley, Low Pittington, Belmont - 1 run AM/1 run PM

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16S - https://bustimes.org/services/16s-conset...uth-stanle

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28S - Pelton Schools - Lord Lawson of Beamish Academy via Perkinsville, Urpeth Grange, Ouston

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50S - Washington - Durham via Chester-le-Street, Waldridge Park, Arnison Centre

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X21S - Spennymoor - Durham - Framwellgate Moor

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X15S - Shotley Bridge - Durham via Consett, Leadgate, Lanchester, Witton Gilbert

More services have been added, full list:

School duplicate buses
In addition to our normal school buses, we'll be running special extra journeys of our normal services. These will have the same route number but will end in ‘S’ to show that the duplicate journey is for use by school and college students only. For example, a duplicate on the Prince Bishops 20 service will be numbered ‘20S’.

Please keep checking back as more duplicate journeys are likely to be added.


Service X1S
8am from Washington to Houghton-le-Spring (arriving at 8.16am)
3.04pm from Houghton-le-Spring to Washington (arriving at 3.22pm)

Service 2S
7.58am from Vic Farm to Sunderland (arriving at 8.24am)
3.39pm from Sunderland Winter Gardens to Vic Farm (arriving at 3.59pm)

Service Q3S
7.50am from Great Park to Regent Centre (arriving at 8.08am)
3.35pm from Regent Centre to Great Park Village (arriving at 3.50pm)

Service 4S
3.25pm from Fallowfield Way to Concord (arriving at 3.46pm)

Service 5S
7.29am from Jarrow to Boldon School (arriving at 8.04am)
7.51am from Boldon Asda to Jarrow (arriving at 8.20am)
2.32pm from Jarrow to Boldon Asda (arriving at 3.08pm)
2.56pm from Boldon School to Jarrow (arriving at 3.30pm)

Service M6S
7.34am from Stanley to Metrocentre (arriving at 8.22am)
3.22pm from Metrocentre to Stanley (arriving at 3.54pm)

Service 10AS
7.43am from Blackhall Mill to Charles Thorp (arriving at 8.27am)
2.45pm from Charles Thorp to Blackhall Mill (arriving at 3.20pm)

Service X15S
7.36am from Shotley Bridge to Durham (arriving at 8.44am)
8.02am from Lanchester Village Green to Consett (arriving at 8.19am)
4.03pm from Durham to Shotley Bridge (arriving at 5pm)

Service 16S
7.22am from Consett to Durham (arriving 8.37am)
3.39pm from Leazes Bowl in Durham to Consett (arriving at 4.55pm) – this duplicate journey will not serve Durham Bus Station
4.16pm from Framwellgate Moor to Consett (arriving at 5.24pm)

Service 20S
7.30am from Sunderland to Framwellgate Moor (arriving at 8.40am) – this duplicate journey will not serve Durham Bus Station
8.35am from Sunderland to East Herrington Board Inn (arriving at 8.48am)
3.26pm from Framwellgate Moor to Sunderland (arriving at 4.29pm) – this duplicate journey will not serve Durham Bus Station

Service 21S
7.48am from Gateshead Interchange to Durham (arriving at 8.45am)
3.32pm from Leazes Road in Durham to Gateshead (arriving at 4.33pm) – this duplicate journey will not serve Durham Bus Station

Service X21S
7.59am from Spennymoor to Framwellgate Moor (arriving at 8.38am)
3.26pm from Framwellgate Moor to Bishop Auckland (arriving at 4.14pm)

Service 27S
8.10am from Jarrow to Mill Tavern (arriving at 8.30am)
3.06pm from Mill Tavern to Jarrow (arriving at 3.24pm)

Service 35S
8am from Houghton-le-Spring to Sunderland (arriving at 8.39am)

Service 39S
8am from Doxford to Sunderland (arriving at 8.27am)
8.03am from Sunderland to Tunstall Village Green (arriving at 8.20am)
3.16pm from Tunstall Village Green to Sunderland Winter Gardens (arriving at 3.33pm)
3.40pm from Sunderland to Doxford (arriving at 4.06pm)

Service 49S
7.58am from Gateshead to Dunston Park Terrae (arriving at 8.13am)
2.51pm from Dunston Park Terrace to Gateshead (arriving at 3.04pm)

Service 50S
7.45am from Washington Galleries to Durham (arriving at 8.32am)

Service 56S
8.12am from Gateshead to Wrekenton (arriving at 8.30am)
3.30pm from Wrekenton to Gateshead (arriving at 3.47pm)

Service 57S
7.58am from Heworth to Gateshead (arriving at 8.30am)
3.12pm from Gateshead to Heworth (arriving at 3.39pm)

Service 60S
8.01am from Seaham to Sunderland (arriving at 8.31am)

Service 61S
7.57am from Murton to Sunderland Interchange (arriving at 8.44am)
3.10pm from New Seaham Mill Inn to Murton (arriving at 3.37pm)

Services 93S & 94S
93S from Gateshead at 7.36am
94S from Gateshead at 3.15pm

Service 97S
7.26am from Gateshead to Newcastle (arriving at 8.46am)
3.13pm from Metrocentre to Lobley Hill (arriving at 3.49pm)
4.04pm from Lobley Hill to Gateshead (arriving at 4.18pm)

Service 265S
7.34am from Seaham to Framwellgate Moor (arriving at 8.40am) – this duplicate journey will not serve Durham Bus Station
3.40pm from Framwellgate Moor to Seaham (arriving at 4.40pm) – this duplicate journey will not serve Durham Bus Station

Service 680S
7.30am from Bellingham Heritage Centre to Queen Elizabeth High School (arriving at 8.38am)
3.30pm from Queen Elizabeth High School to Bellingham (arriving at 4.33pm)

Please keep checking back as more duplicate journeys are likely to be added.
(02 Sep 2020, 7:46 pm)Dans_bus_photos wrote [ -> ]It appears that 3941-3/3962-5 and 6086 are all now at Deptford along with several crusader Citaros. Looks like 6901-4 have moved in the other direction to Riverside

Citaro list:

5305 - 5311/5323/5325 - Deptford

5312 - Riverside

5313 - Washington

5314/5316 - Percy Main

5315/5317/18/5320-5322 - Riverside
(02 Sep 2020, 7:51 pm)Michael wrote [ -> ]Citaro list:

5305 - 5311/5323/5325 - Deptford

5312 - Riverside

5313 - Washington

5314/5316 - Percy Main

5315/5317/18/5320-5322 - Riverside


There’s a crusader citario down Peterlee, been doing the 807 scholars today


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(02 Sep 2020, 7:51 pm)Michael wrote [ -> ]Citaro list:

5305 - 5311/5323/5325 - Deptford

5312 - Riverside

5313 - Washington

5314/5316 - Percy Main

5315/5317/18/5320-5322 - Riverside

Mercs on the 19, that's something I didn't think I'd ever see. (They've replaced the two Scania's which pretty much only ran on the 19 - 5273 / 5274)
(02 Sep 2020, 9:31 pm)Storx wrote [ -> ]Mercs on the 19, that's something I didn't think I'd ever see. (They've replaced the two Scania's which pretty much only ran on the 19 - 5273 / 5274)



5273/74 shouldn’t have ever been allocated to the 19. The 19 is supposed to be allocated Solos.

The Crusader Citaro will be operating dupes, mainly for Stagecoach and Arriva.


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(02 Sep 2020, 9:35 pm)Dan wrote [ -> ]5273/74 shouldn’t have ever been allocated to the 19. The 19 is supposed to be allocated Solos.

The Crusader Citaro will be operating dupes, mainly for Stagecoach and Arriva.


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They're always or always were on though especially the last few weeks. (5274 being on yesterday before it's gone to Riverside).

Fair on the Citaro's though.
(02 Sep 2020, 10:13 pm)Storx wrote [ -> ]They're always or always were on though especially the last few weeks. (5274 being on yesterday before it's gone to Riverside).

Fair on the Citaro's though.



Over the summer the scholars services which 5273/74 are supposed to be allocated to won’t have been running. The reason for their transfer to Riverside is due to the loss of these contracts.

The transfer of the Citaros to Percy Main is unrelated, and wouldn’t have happened if it wasn’t for the short-notice award of extra contracts from Stagecoach.


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(02 Sep 2020, 10:14 pm)Dan wrote [ -> ]Over the summer the scholars services which 5273/74 are supposed to be allocated to won’t have been running. The reason for their transfer to Riverside is due to the loss of these contracts.

The transfer of the Citaros to Percy Main is unrelated, and wouldn’t have happened if it wasn’t for the short-notice award of extra contracts from Stagecoach.


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Makes sense then, always wondered why there was 2 stray Omnicities randomly left at Percy Main, had a feeling they were school contacts though.
With the routemaster being assigned to scholars, will they require a conductor?
(03 Sep 2020, 9:19 pm)JP6004 wrote [ -> ]With the routemaster being assigned to scholars, will they require a conductor?
Yup
(03 Sep 2020, 9:19 pm)JP6004 wrote [ -> ]With the routemaster being assigned to scholars, will they require a conductor?

Routemaster! What did I miss?
(04 Sep 2020, 9:37 am)ne14ne1 wrote [ -> ]Routemaster! What did I miss?

It's when it (inevitably) rocks up on a commercial service the excitement really starts!
(04 Sep 2020, 9:40 am)Andreos1 wrote [ -> ]It's when it (inevitably) rocks up on a commercial service the excitement really starts!

But what Routemaster?
My thoughts exactly!
(04 Sep 2020, 9:37 am)ne14ne1 wrote [ -> ]Routemaster! What did I miss?
(04 Sep 2020, 9:55 am)ne14ne1 wrote [ -> ]But what Routemaster?

Not sure if anything has been confirmed anywhere else, but I think this was where the rumour started. 
https://twitter.com/MartijnGNE/status/13...72610?s=09
(04 Sep 2020, 1:03 pm)Andreos1 wrote [ -> ]Not sure if anything has been confirmed anywhere else, but I think this was where the rumour started. 
https://twitter.com/MartijnGNE/status/13...72610?s=09

Funny I was just thinking the other day it would be great if the likes of 838 were put out on some dupes in Sunderland to help out with capacity.  Obviously wouldn't meet PSVAR rules but you would think there could/should be a way around that if vintage buses were used exclusively to duplicate easy access alternatives.  Suspect NEBPT would be reluctant to risk the inevitable damage that would be caused to the interior though.
I think Go North East need to take a look at some of their planned reallocation's following new vehicles entering service as I think personally that once the Red Arrows B9's have been Refurbished at Blackburn for The Crusader that the former London B9's need to go on the 58 for extra capacity as each time I see this service leaving Gateshead throughout Covid-19 the service is packed with zero social distancing in place.

I understand the former London B9's are due to go on the 93/94 but this is only warrants DD's at peak times from Team Valley other than that I wouldn't say the service warrants them, I think increasing frequency back up to Every 15 Minutes maybe more beneficial. 

The same could be said for the Q1/Q2 for the Gateshead section of the route as very few are using it beyond that at the moment to go over to Newcastle via Quayside while I think some shorts between Newcastle and Birtley on the 21 as again full capacity is been reached even though it is supposed to be restricted to up to 35 passengers iirc.

Does anyone know if there is any vehicles available with Go-Ahead Group i.e. London for reallocation albeit temporarily until more new vehicles to come in via future orders if Go North East has the money that is.
Spotted Go North East Mercedes Citaro 5314 on the Stagecoach 11 to North Kenton this morning. Not sure where to post this!
Is Crusader Mercedes Citaro 5314 on hire to Stagecoach? I thought just scholar's buses were going to be using hire buses from other bus operators? 5314 was on the 11 to North Kenton. Is that likely to happen again?
(07 Sep 2020, 3:42 pm)OrangeArrow49 wrote [ -> ]Is Crusader Mercedes Citaro 5314 on hire to Stagecoach? I thought just scholar's buses were going to be using hire buses from other bus operators? 5314 was on the 11 to North Kenton. Is that likely to happen again?

GNE are running duplicate scholars services for both Arriva and GNE
Go North East are operating 56 extra buses on duplicate services across the region, with just under half of these being for Arriva and Stagecoach.

Couple of photos of the Stagecoach Sunderland duplicates operated this morning:

[Image: 50315085211_1f23b5f998.jpg]Go North East: 5308 / NK08CHX by Daniel Graham, on Flickr

[Image: 50315265457_851b21c4dc.jpg]Go North East: 5427 / NK16BYJ by Daniel Graham, on Flickr

[Image: 50315083646_461e148987.jpg]Go North East: 5307 / NK08CHV by Daniel Graham, on Flickr

[Image: 50315263662_150d2a91e5.jpg]Stagecoach North East: 28024 / YR14CGE by Daniel Graham, on Flickr

[Image: 50315082476_2bc5c14d32.jpg]Go North East: 5310 / NK08MXY by Daniel Graham, on Flickr
(07 Sep 2020, 3:43 pm)streetdeckfan wrote [ -> ]GNE are running duplicate scholars services for both Arriva and GNE

I know they are. But the 11 to North Kenton is not scholar's! What tickets are valid then?
(07 Sep 2020, 3:53 pm)OrangeArrow49 wrote [ -> ]I know they are. But the 11 to North Kenton is not scholar's! What tickets are valid then?
If you read the Stagecoach website there is a link into duplicate services which explains how this operates with tickets etc
I wonder how well the schools duplicates have been used? Looks like its been a great effort to pull everything together to make it happen, but I do worry that 'first bus to turn up' syndrome comes into play for the kids that would use them?
(07 Sep 2020, 4:45 pm)Adrian wrote [ -> ]I wonder how well the schools duplicates have been used? Looks like its been a great effort to pull everything together to make it happen, but I do worry that 'first bus to turn up' syndrome comes into play for the kids that would use them?

I've heard of the kids letting the Scholars service go past and waiting for the normal one. Although to me if you're on a school specific service you'd just stop and tell the kids to get on your bus anyways?
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