“On our website, you can download the source data that we use in our digital services.
'Open data' is data that has been made available to the public, for personal, educational or commercial use.
Open data has been shown to stimulate innovation and economic growth. As a forward thinking company we understand the vital role the transport network plays in our community, now and in the future.
The data on the portal is updated automatically when we update our digital services, for example when we make a change to our timetables or network. Downloads are currently available as either .CSV or .XML files.”
Does anyone know what programme that can be used to open the documents after there been downloaded?
https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/opendata
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(31 Jan 2022, 5:09 pm)cbma06 wrote [ -> ]“On our website, you can download the source data that we use in our digital services.
'Open data' is data that has been made available to the public, for personal, educational or commercial use.
Open data has been shown to stimulate innovation and economic growth. As a forward thinking company we understand the vital role the transport network plays in our community, now and in the future.
The data on the portal is updated automatically when we update our digital services, for example when we make a change to our timetables or network. Downloads are currently available as either .CSV or .XML files.”
Does anyone know what programme that can be used to open the documents after there been downloaded?
https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/opendata
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Excel might be the best bet for that CSV file
Most text editors will open an xml file, but neither are likely to be in a format that is intended for the majority of people to read and understand. They're data sets for developers to use.
(31 Jan 2022, 5:09 pm)cbma06 wrote [ -> ]“On our website, you can download the source data that we use in our digital services.
'Open data' is data that has been made available to the public, for personal, educational or commercial use.
Open data has been shown to stimulate innovation and economic growth. As a forward thinking company we understand the vital role the transport network plays in our community, now and in the future.
The data on the portal is updated automatically when we update our digital services, for example when we make a change to our timetables or network. Downloads are currently available as either .CSV or .XML files.”
Does anyone know what programme that can be used to open the documents after there been downloaded?
https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/opendata
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If you can find a copy of TransXChange 2.4 in the depths of the internet you can "publish" the TransXChange timetable files in to pdf format. Its how some operators use EBSR
(04 Feb 2022, 10:11 am)Storx wrote [ -> ]For anyone interested in this stuff here's the live updated links for fares for GoNorthEast and Arriva Northumbria aswell:
GNE - https://data.bus-data.dft.gov.uk/fares/d...1/download
Arriva Northumbria - https://data.bus-data.dft.gov.uk/fares/d...2/download
It's not usable without it being coded into a nice view though. The fares data should be easy enough to do though if you could be bothered.
I wonder why the operators don't develop this into their own websites? It shouldn't take a third party to present fare information to
their customers.
(04 Feb 2022, 11:24 am)Adrian wrote [ -> ]I wonder why the operators don't develop this into their own websites? It shouldn't take a third party to present fare information to their customers.
Cynical hat on - they only want to present the 'value' and marketable tickets to Customers. Not the poorer value one off tickets that won't attract Customers.
(04 Feb 2022, 11:29 am)Ambassador wrote [ -> ]Cynical hat on - they only want to present the 'value' and marketable tickets to Customers. Not the poorer value one off tickets that won't attract Customers.
Somebody needs to tell Stagecoach then as they show every possible fare when planning a journey and some of the Go Ahead companies have fare look ups for A to B trips
(04 Feb 2022, 11:24 am)Adrian wrote [ -> ]I wonder why the operators don't develop this into their own websites? It shouldn't take a third party to present fare information to their customers.
The cynic in me is because some things are better not known. It's weird as they've actually got the code to create tables aswell.
Just generated one for the 57A (Arriva) and some things are probably better not known. £6.10 for a single from Ashington to North Shields ouch.
https://easyupload.io/wx4725 - 57A Fares Table.
(04 Feb 2022, 2:32 pm)Storx wrote [ -> ]The cynic in me is because some things are better not known. It's weird as they've actually got the code to create tables aswell.
Just generated one for the 57A (Arriva) and some things are probably better not known. £6.10 for a single from Ashington to North Shields ouch.
https://easyupload.io/wx4725 - 57A Fares Table.
Would be interesting to see how the X15/X18 costs in singles...
(04 Feb 2022, 4:49 pm)omnicity4659 wrote [ -> ]Would be interesting to see how the X15/X18 costs in singles...
I tried to do the whole route but it's not available as it's split with the route splits.
https://we.tl/t-CunzSclDIb - There's the 2 Northern sections though of the X18.
https://we.tl/t-BYQXoUx6QI - and the Northern section of the X15.
Doesn't seem to be any fares above £6.70 though.
(04 Feb 2022, 2:32 pm)Storx wrote [ -> ]The cynic in me is because some things are better not known. It's weird as they've actually got the code to create tables aswell.
Just generated one for the 57A (Arriva) and some things are probably better not known. £6.10 for a single from Ashington to North Shields ouch.
https://easyupload.io/wx4725 - 57A Fares Table.
That's pretty ridiculous considering the 19 is only £1.70.
(04 Feb 2022, 5:29 pm)Thomas12 wrote [ -> ]That's pretty ridiculous considering the 19 is only £1.70.
Stupid isn't it, mind the 19 wasn't exactly the best value either before those fares came in. That's the 19 fares there -
https://we.tl/t-D9Jn19q1ou some horrid short fares. £3.10 from Seaton Delaval to Earsdon for example. It's £1.90 to £2.80 depending where you get on with the 57/57A.
(04 Feb 2022, 5:47 pm)Storx wrote [ -> ]Stupid isn't it, mind the 19 wasn't exactly the best value either before those fares came in. That's the 19 fares there - https://we.tl/t-D9Jn19q1ou some horrid short fares. £3.10 from Seaton Delaval to Earsdon for example. It's £1.90 to £2.80 depending where you get on with the 57/57A.
Yeah I'm glad GNE had a rethink of there fare structure as some of those are ridiculous too. If you're a first time, or infrequent bus user and are getting quoted fares like that it's definitely not going to encourage you back.
A hidden link that not many people know about - bustimes have started to show this as well (although it’s pretty secret)
https://bustimes.org/fares/datasets/1308 - Go North East
bustimes.org/fares/ as they are slowly added
£3.00 from Ouston to Birtley?! Jesus wept.
How on earth do they justify Birtley Newcastle Bank to Newcastle being £3.10 but a 5 minute walk to the Angel costing just £2.30…bizarrely…if you travelled 3.3 miles down Durham Road to the Swallow Hotel you pay £2.30 to Newcastle.
No wonder absolutely nobody who can has a choice avoids a bus like the plague, it’s utterly horrendous value for the basic leisure user. Get an Uber.
(05 Feb 2022, 12:05 am)Ambassador wrote [ -> ]£3.00 from Ouston to Birtley?! Jesus wept.
How on earth do they justify Birtley Newcastle Bank to Newcastle being £3.10 but a 5 minute walk to the Angel costing just £2.30…bizarrely…if you travelled 3.3 miles down Durham Road to the Swallow Hotel you pay £2.30 to Newcastle.
No wonder absolutely nobody who can has a choice avoids a bus like the plague, it’s utterly horrendous value for the basic leisure user. Get an Uber.
It's £1.60 for a single or £3.00 for a return. I'd say that's pretty fair, right?
(05 Feb 2022, 1:31 am)Thomas12 wrote [ -> ]It's £1.60 for a single or £3.00 for a return. I'd say that's pretty fair, right?
Indeed - probably the cheapest it has ever been in years, and far more competitive in price than an Uber.
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(05 Feb 2022, 12:05 am)Ambassador wrote [ -> ]£3.00 from Ouston to Birtley?! Jesus wept.
How on earth do they justify Birtley Newcastle Bank to Newcastle being £3.10 but a 5 minute walk to the Angel costing just £2.30…bizarrely…if you travelled 3.3 miles down Durham Road to the Swallow Hotel you pay £2.30 to Newcastle.
No wonder absolutely nobody who can has a choice avoids a bus like the plague, it’s utterly horrendous value for the basic leisure user. Get an Uber.
I know it's reduced now but it's 'boundary tax'. Most routes that goes over the Tyne and Wear / Northumberland or Durham boundary jumps stupidly. It's the same up with Arriva aswell. I believe it's £1.90 from Newcastle to Gosforth Park, want to go to Seaton Burn Roundabout it's £3.80 for example.
I believe it's because of transfares as it effectively caps how much they can charge. Note the two jumps you mentioned there are the Z1/Z2 and Z2/Z3 boundaries aswell btw. Once you cross a boundary they go out the window so they just charge whatever.
https://www.nexus.org.uk/sites/default/f...202008.pdf