Just drove past the bus link mentioned in the thread title and it looks complete now. Traffic lights are now active for it, still coned off for buses. But hopefully sees use soon after taking how my years to build it.
when it said " gate " i expected something that will stop unauthorised vehicles going down it but i can see anything from the pictures? Thanks for the link though very interesting
(06 Apr 2022, 12:34 pm)Rob44 wrote [ -> ]when it said " gate " i expected something that will stop unauthorised vehicles going down it but i can see anything from the pictures? Thanks for the link though very interesting
No it’s just a term used, there’s no physical gate.
Im sure the High Level Bridge and bus only stretch of John Dobson Street are referred to as Bus Gates too for example.
(06 Apr 2022, 12:34 pm)Rob44 wrote [ -> ]when it said " gate " i expected something that will stop unauthorised vehicles going down it but i can see anything from the pictures? Thanks for the link though very interesting
Physical objects and barriers can break and cost money.
Cameras can make money.
I'd hazard a guess the shares in Gateshead Councils white paint suppliers will be divested in to shares in Gateshead Councils traffic camera suppliers.
(06 Apr 2022, 2:16 pm)ne14ne1 wrote [ -> ]No it’s just a term used, there’s no physical gate.
Im sure the High Level Bridge and bus only stretch of John Dobson Street are referred to as Bus Gates too for example.
ah right. I thought it was just written as " bus lane " in the areas you mention... maybe its a gateshead thing!
(06 Apr 2022, 2:22 pm)Andreos1 wrote [ -> ]Physical objects and barriers can break and cost money.
Cameras can make money.
I'd hazard a guess the shares in Gateshead Councils white paint suppliers will be divested in to shares in Gateshead Councils traffic camera suppliers.
Good point. Maybe if enough car driver fail to see the signs and end up with a fine gateshead council can reduce my council tax bill
Money from bus lane fines is pumped back into traffic infrastructure, enforcement etc as far as I’m aware, so win win.
It’s basically a stupidity tax to help fund other projects.
They need to get a bus lane camera on the Centrelink too. The number of entitled rat runners on there is increasing.
I think I'm getting a bit confused, or rather lost my barings - am i correct in thinking the green lines I've drawn on are the new bus gate (I've been wondering what they've been doing there)?
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If so, what's the traffic lights for? Have they created new sliproads on the A167?
(06 Apr 2022, 3:43 pm)F114TML wrote [ -> ]I think I'm getting a bit confused, or rather lost my barings - am i correct in thinking the green lines I've drawn on are the new bus gate (I've been wondering what they've been doing there)?
If so, what's the traffic lights for? Have they created new sliproads on the A167?
Yeah. That's it. They've basically undone the work done in the 60s when that was the original Sunderland Road.
No slip roads - its a link between Gateshead High St and Sunderland Road.
The traffic lights are underneath the flyover and is to stop traffic when buses cross the main flow of traffic.
The project ticks so many Gateshead Council boxes.
* Traffic lights.
* White paint thrown around with wild abandon
* Potential for traffic cameras and an income from fines.
busses travel along gateshead high street turn left into the bus gate as the ?? blue bell pub go under the 167 flyover and cross the underneath and head towards where the old GNE garage was and the new lidi is and join Sunderland road. Can see your pic so sorry if this is just saying what you've posted!!
(06 Apr 2022, 3:43 pm)F114TML wrote [ -> ]I think I'm getting a bit confused, or rather lost my barings - am i correct in thinking the green lines I've drawn on are the new bus gate (I've been wondering what they've been doing there)?
If so, what's the traffic lights for? Have they created new sliproads on the A167?
Don't forget the A167 is double height in that area, so it only crosses the lower section
(06 Apr 2022, 3:48 pm)Rob44 wrote [ -> ]busses travel along gateshead high street turn left into the bus gate as the ?? blue bell pub go under the 167 flyover and cross the underneath and head towards where the old GNE garage was and the new lidi is and join Sunderland road. Can see your pic so sorry if this is just saying what you've posted!!
Yeah, that's it essentially. Opposite in reverse.
Not sure if it's limited to the 27, 51 and 52 or if they're gonna send the X10 that way too (potential for it getting stuck on Jackson St).
the 51 and 52 use old Durham road don't they?
(06 Apr 2022, 4:16 pm)Andreos1 wrote [ -> ]Yeah, that's it essentially. Opposite in reverse.
Not sure if it's limited to the 27, 51 and 52 or if they're gonna send the X10 that way too (potential for it getting stuck on Jackson St).
It is only the 27 and X10 that use sunderland road, maybe stagecoach will have the X24 and X34 use sunderland road from heworth instead of the felling bypass
(06 Apr 2022, 4:49 pm)N1cholas wrote [ -> ]It is only the 27 and X10 that use sunderland road, maybe stagecoach will have the X24 and X34 use sunderland road from heworth instead of the felling bypass
Stagecoach registered their services to use the Bus Gate from last October! (peak only if I remember correctly).
(06 Apr 2022, 4:40 pm)Rob44 wrote [ -> ]the 51 and 52 use old Durham road don't they?
Ah you're right.
Stuck in a time warp from when they used to go that way.
(06 Apr 2022, 4:49 pm)N1cholas wrote [ -> ]It is only the 27 and X10 that use sunderland road, maybe stagecoach will have the X24 and X34 use sunderland road from heworth instead of the felling bypass
It's a lot of work. For not a lot of buses.
I was thinking that before my mix up with the 51/52.
(06 Apr 2022, 4:49 pm)N1cholas wrote [ -> ]It is only the 27 and X10 that use sunderland road, maybe stagecoach will have the X24 and X34 use sunderland road from heworth instead of the felling bypass
And what a view will await passengers arriving through the new Bus Gate
https://www.google.com/maps/@54.9594643,...384!8i8192
Welcome to Gateshead!
(06 Apr 2022, 2:22 pm)Andreos1 wrote [ -> ]Physical objects and barriers can break and cost money.
Cameras can make money.
I'd hazard a guess the shares in Gateshead Councils white paint suppliers will be divested in to shares in Gateshead Councils traffic camera suppliers.
Cameras would earn their keep almost instantly.
Either that or get an enthusiast to stand there with a GoPro, then send the footage to Northumbria's finest.
(06 Apr 2022, 6:52 pm)ne14ne1 wrote [ -> ]Incorrect. That blocks all gone ready for redevelopment.
See: https://www.skyscrapercity.com/threads/g...-178002604
Any idea what the state of play is on the High Street these days? Is it on the most-part unoccupied?
I think I read that Gateshead Council were offering settlements to freehold and leaseholders to buy up the property, but unsure how far that went.