North East Buses

Now registered on VOSA

Timetable Changes: X1, 10/10A/10B, 6, QA/B, 21, N21, 1, 309/310/311, X21
Route and Timetable Change: 12

More changes already...?

(27 Jul 2022, 12:02 pm)Jack Gill wrote [ -> ]More changes already...?

I assume the majority of these will be minor timetable changes to accommodate miscellaneous contract changes.

It's once again time for me to get my hopes up that they'll restore the later X21 so I can get home on a night, and then for me to be disappointed when they don't!

(27 Jul 2022, 12:02 pm)Jack Gill wrote [ -> ]More changes already...?

I suspect the 10/A/B, N/21, X21 and "Q3" changes will be for the move to Riverside?

Interested to know what they're doing with the 12.

(27 Jul 2022, 12:11 pm)streetdeckfan wrote [ -> ]It's once again time for me to get my hopes up that they'll restore the later X21 so I can get home on a night, and then for me to be disappointed when they don't!

Don't bother getting your hopes up.

(27 Jul 2022, 1:26 pm)Dan wrote [ -> ]Don't bother getting your hopes up.

Oh, I wasn't! I'm not that stupid!

GNE only cut services now, they don't add them back!

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Wonder what there doing to the 1 & X1

Hopefully the evening 309 & 310 journeys ex Newcastle get sorted so Cobalt workers going to W.Bay and Blyth have a service at a more sensible time, and people living on unique sections of service 310 don't have to wait nearly an hour in Newcastle!

(27 Jul 2022, 11:59 am)peter wrote [ -> ]Now registered on VOSA

Timetable Changes: X1, 10/10A/10B, 6, Q3, 21, N21, 1, 309/310/311, X21
Route and Timetable Change: 12

I am curious of the 12, 6, N21.

However why is the Q3 listed, surely that service is withdrawn. Is that the extend of the changes? or will there be more coming

(27 Jul 2022, 6:54 pm)Unber43 wrote [ -> ]I am curious of the 12, 6, N21.

However why is the Q3 listed, surely that service is withdrawn. Is that the extend of the changes? or will there be more coming

That was out of habit on my part as the registration lists it as Q3 (QA,QB).

(27 Jul 2022, 1:26 pm)Dan wrote [ -> ]Don't bother getting your hopes up.

Hey Dan, when is the GNE enthusiast section going to be getting an update? last entry was 19/12/21

Any news on these changes yet?

This has appeared on VOSA, 4th September:

PB0003954/558
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 67 (67) Metrocentre Wardley

(08 Aug 2022, 7:32 pm)Michael wrote [ -> ]This has appeared on VOSA, 4th September:

PB0003954/558
Cancellation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 67 (67) Metrocentre Wardley

So much for nexus saving it

(08 Aug 2022, 9:02 pm)Aaron21 wrote [ -> ]So much for nexus saving it

Contract might have been awarded to another operator

(08 Aug 2022, 9:02 pm)Aaron21 wrote [ -> ]So much for nexus saving it

Nexus has saved it. There is a new tender to operate services 67/69 and 82A from September. The current operators of both these contracts may not remain as the operators in September, if another operator has provided a cheaper price.


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I'm interested to know what the change to the 1 is. Gonna be really annoying if it goes every 30 minutes during the day

(08 Aug 2022, 9:08 pm)Aaron21 wrote [ -> ]I'm interested to know what the change to the 1 is. Gonna be really annoying if it goes every 30 minutes during the day

If Arriva's half hourly 306 between Tynemouth and Whitley Bay was re-routed via Mast Lane, John Street and Whitley Road, it would make total sense to be honest

(08 Aug 2022, 9:08 pm)Aaron21 wrote [ -> ]I'm interested to know what the change to the 1 is. Gonna be really annoying if it goes every 30 minutes during the day

Tbf it would make sense in a PVR point of view as it would also free up Euro 6 buses which the 309/10/11 & 1 desperately need with atleast 3-5 OmniDekkas on them daily.

However if I was a regular passenger I would be quite annoyed.

(08 Aug 2022, 9:16 pm)Unber43 wrote [ -> ]Tbf it would make sense in a PVR point of view as it would also free up Euro 6 buses which the 309/10/11 & 1 desperately need with atleast 3-5 OmniDekkas on them daily.

However if I was a regular passenger I would be quite annoyed.

If GNE had've won the 317, they could've done......

- 309 - unchanged but every 15 to W.Bay then every 30 to Blyth.

- 310 - unchanged but every 30 mins.

- 311 - Same route to Hadrian Park then old 305 route to Ridley Avenue then same as number 1 to Whitley Bay.

- 317 - Same as current to Wallsend then same as number 1 to Gateshead Metro.

(08 Aug 2022, 10:00 pm)L469 YVK wrote [ -> ]If GNE had've won the 317, they could've done......

- 309 - unchanged but every 15 to W.Bay then every 30 to Blyth.

- 310 - unchanged but every 30 mins.

- 311 - Same route to Hadrian Park then old 305 route to Ridley Avenue then same as number 1 to Whitley Bay.

- 317 - Same as current to Wallsend then same as number 1 to Gateshead Metro.

That would only be an option if the coast road services were kept at every 7 mins.

(08 Aug 2022, 10:00 pm)L469 YVK wrote [ -> ]If GNE had've won the 317, they could've done......

- 309 - unchanged but every 15 to W.Bay then every 30 to Blyth.

- 310 - unchanged but every 30 mins.

- 311 - Same route to Hadrian Park then old 305 route to Ridley Avenue then same as number 1 to Whitley Bay.

- 317 - Same as current to Wallsend then same as number 1 to Gateshead Metro.

Anything to give that route some reason to exist

(08 Aug 2022, 9:16 pm)Unber43 wrote [ -> ]Tbf it would make sense in a PVR point of view as it would also free up Euro 6 buses which the 309/10/11 & 1 desperately need with atleast 3-5 OmniDekkas on them daily.

However if I was a regular passenger I would be quite annoyed.

aren’t they getting a massive load of euro 6 deckers? Surely with all those they wouldn’t need to free up anything not to mention that would put single decks on a double deck route.

(08 Aug 2022, 10:20 pm)ALavery wrote [ -> ]aren’t they getting a massive load of euro 6 deckers? Surely with all those they wouldn’t need to free up anything not to mention that would put single decks on a double deck route.

They are getting 23 for the Metro Replacement, but not sure how many spares they'll have once they've got all the buses for the school contracts, they've got 61 new ones, 1 requires atleast 23 buses. But Percy Main I would say need at least 5-6 more, Deptford need at least 2 more, there was two Citaros on the 56 today. I would give Consett a couple more Euro 6 spares and Riverside maybe 5-7. 

They've also got Euro 6 OmniCities which are apparently going by 2023, they should all be kept for as long as possible.

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Does anyone use the 309/310/311 regularly how busy does it get because I've gotten the 309/310 a few times at different points and it has never been rammed. I saw 4 different 311 last time I was at Newcastle for a full day, around 10am, 1pm, 4pm, 5pm the 5pm was a bit full but the rest only have maybe 5 people on, I do wonder how big the margins of profit are.

(08 Aug 2022, 10:14 pm)Aaron21 wrote [ -> ]Anything to give that route some reason to exist

The route does have a purpose believe it or not.

(08 Aug 2022, 10:56 pm)L469 YVK wrote [ -> ]The route does have a purpose believe it or not.

Really I'm shocked. It's just the cut 57 which was the cut 58

(08 Aug 2022, 10:26 pm)Unber43 wrote [ -> ]They are getting 23 for the Metro Replacement, but not sure how many spares they'll have once they've got all the buses for the school contracts, they've got 61 new ones, 1 requires atleast 23 buses. But Percy Main I would say need at least 5-6 more, Deptford need at least 2 more, there was two Citaros on the 56 today. I would give Consett a couple more Euro 6 spares and Riverside maybe 5-7. 

They've also got Euro 6 OmniCities which are apparently going by 2023, they should all be kept for as long as possible.

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Does anyone use the 309/310/311 regularly how busy does it get because I've gotten the 309/310 a few times at different points and it has never been rammed. I saw 4 different 311 last time I was at Newcastle for a full day, around 10am, 1pm, 4pm, 5pm the 5pm was a bit full but the rest only have maybe 5 people on, I do wonder how big the margins of profit are.

The 309 gets a canny load i used that quite frequently up until the summer and it was never fully empty. I can’t speak for the 310/11. I also totally agree with the omnicities point, the way they seem to be going they’d be wanting to keep everything they can : / Also a quick side q why does the 311 exist? If I’m not mistaken it used to be part of the 58 but what happened with that? Would it have not been easier to just keep it as it was?

(09 Aug 2022, 1:29 am)ALavery wrote [ -> ]The 309 gets a canny load i used that quite frequently up until the summer and it was never fully empty. I can’t speak for the 310/11. I also totally agree with the omnicities point, the way they seem to be going they’d be wanting to keep everything they can : / Also a quick side q why does the 311 exist? If I’m not mistaken it used to be part of the 58 but what happened with that? Would it have not been easier to just keep it as it was?

It was to try and consolidate it all so it was every 6 minutes rather than every 7.5 minutes plus the 57/58 duplicating it. People used to always just let the 57/58 drive by and use the 306/308/309/310. It's always happens along there and happens now with the 51 now aswell. 

It's pretty much an express service that which I used to use all the time when I used to live near there awhile back. 

There's way too many buses along there though and the 311 is the most useful out of the lot. Some people just live at Hadrian Park so have a serious interest in it :p

(09 Aug 2022, 7:47 am)Storx wrote [ -> ]It was to try and consolidate it all so it was every 6 minutes rather than every 7.5 minutes plus the 57/58 duplicating it. People used to always just let the 57/58 drive by and use the 306/308/309/310. It's always happens along there and happens now with the 51 now aswell. 

It's pretty much an express service that which I used to use all the time when I used to live near there awhile back. 

There's way too many buses along there though and the 311 is the most useful out of the lot. Some people just live at Hadrian Park so have a serious interest in it :p

If that's the case. Then why can't the 310 serve Hadrian Park if a lot of people use it. And if that's the case then I'd love to know why it never carry anyone when I see it. 
Main reasons as you can get the 335/41/41A between Hadrian Park & Station Road (335) & Coast Road (41/41A). But for Newcastle you can get the 310 which would be a lot easier to extend into Hadrian Park than having the 311 which is just the 310 without the Hadrian Park. Or what about putting the 309 & 310 into Hadrian Park. Wouldn't that make more sense than having a route that is just a copy of another route