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(12 Jan 2015, 5:01 pm)JoshP wrote [ -> ]As I said early last year, I think only town services will remain Arriva with out of town services becoming Sapphire or MAX. That's my prediction anyways.

So what might happen to the 85/685 Newcastle to Carlisle?
(12 Jan 2015, 4:57 pm)mb134 wrote [ -> ]I don't know if I've picked this up correctly, so can someone please correct this if it's wrong Smile
Are most Arriva services going to be under some kind of brand from now on, be it MAX Sapphire or high frequency route branded? It just seems like a large majority of services are seeing upgrades or branding.

It certainly seems like it doesn't it. The North East & Yorkshire operating companies are definitely leading the way at the moment with service delivery & impelmentation of upgrades and everyone else is starting to follow (look how many regions are now using MAX for example!).
Sapphire is a countrywide project by DB to hopefully generate growth on those routes with a big focus on them. Certainly seems to be paying off so far, and it is due to be expanded once again this year.

(12 Jan 2015, 5:19 pm)G-CPTN wrote [ -> ]So what might happen to the 85/685 Newcastle to Carlisle?

I think you will likely see this one go MAX at some point - question of course is what will Stagecoach do as it is jointly operated?
(12 Jan 2015, 5:29 pm)tyresmoke wrote [ -> ]It certainly seems like it doesn't it. The North East & Yorkshire operating companies are definitely leading the way at the moment with service delivery & impelmentation of upgrades and everyone else is starting to follow (look how many regions are now using MAX for example!).
Sapphire is a countrywide project by DB to hopefully generate growth on those routes with a big focus on them. Certainly seems to be paying off so far, and it is due to be expanded once again this year.


I think you will likely see this one go MAX at some point - question of course is what will Stagecoach do as it is jointly operated?

Judging by passenger numbers, I don't think the 85 justifies being operated at all, never mind being upgraded to MAX!
(12 Jan 2015, 5:31 pm)Tom wrote [ -> ]Judging by passenger numbers, I don't think the 85 justifies being operated at all, never mind being upgraded to MAX!

That's what I was thinking.
(12 Jan 2015, 4:49 pm)ArrivaNE_7522 wrote [ -> ]What do the Max uniforms look like?
yet to be confirmed as Scott said, but I would think white shirts and dark blue ties. What should have happened is when the new Sapphire uniforms were ordered, generic white shirts should have been designed, so they could then be used across sapphire and max. Plus, will X1 still have its own or will it fall under max overall? So many choices!
(12 Jan 2015, 6:31 pm)MrPottski wrote [ -> ]yet to be confirmed as Scott said, but I would think white shirts and dark blue ties. What should have happened is when the new Sapphire uniforms were ordered, generic white shirts should have been designed, so they could then be used across sapphire and max. Plus, will X1 still have its own or will it fall under max overall? So many choices!

Hahaha don't go there! Everything works back to front as usual, implement it before everything is ready.
(12 Jan 2015, 5:01 pm)JoshP wrote [ -> ]As I said early last year, I think only town services will remain Arriva with out of town services becoming Sapphire or MAX. That's my prediction anyways. Except for the Eco services using gas busses or 'special' Streetlites. That's my prediction

(12 Jan 2015, 5:29 pm)tyresmoke wrote [ -> ]It certainly seems like it doesn't it. The North East & Yorkshire operating companies are definitely leading the way at the moment with service delivery & impelmentation of upgrades and everyone else is starting to follow (look how many regions are now using MAX for example!).
Sapphire is a countrywide project by DB to hopefully generate growth on those routes with a big focus on them. Certainly seems to be paying off so far, and it is due to be expanded once again this year.
Cheers both! Big Grin
I think service brands, MAX and Sapphire, Stagecoach Gold etc. have a good impact on passengers, as a passenger it seems like the companies are trying to improve services, and thinking about what customers want, or expect, now.
I would love to see the profiling/research relating the impact of branding on passenger numbers.

Not cos I am a cynic or owt, it's just that apart from the initial interest, branding does nowt for me.

Going back to the days of the PTE, ExpressLink (apart from those coach seats), Superliner, Go Gateshead, VFM, Wear Buses etc to current brands, including Gold or Max (yet to do Sapphire) - it just doesn't float my boat at all.

Whether I expect too much, I ain't materialistic enough to indulge, or just enjoy the basics who knows.
Anyone else the same?
I think that GNE's TEN and Tynedale Express brands have attracted passengers.
(12 Jan 2015, 8:28 pm)Andreos1 wrote [ -> ]I would love to see the profiling/research relating the impact of branding on passenger numbers.

Not cos I am a cynic or owt, it's just that apart from the initial interest, branding does nowt for me.

Going back to the days of the PTE, ExpressLink (apart from those coach seats), Superliner, Go Gateshead, VFM, Wear Buses etc to current brands, including Gold or Max (yet to do Sapphire) - it just doesn't float my boat at all.

Whether I expect too much, I ain't materialistic enough to indulge, or just enjoy the basics who knows.
Anyone else the same?

Have to say if I am going anywhere new, then branded routes do help as they stand out from the "standard" routes and make them much easier to understand for me. For example the A shuttle that I used in Luton was branded separately as part of the Busway services, ran every 15 minutes with branded buses very rarely seen off route (though it does happen...).

Branding only works when its done properly of course...
This counts as my annoying post for today.

The 1000 X66 from Darlington didn't turn up so now I'm standing at the front of the bus and have to keep moving for people wanting to be on and off on the 1020 journey - joy!
Blyth's 7607 is still in standard fleet livery, seen on the X10 today.
(13 Jan 2015, 3:48 pm)forster wrote [ -> ]Blyth's 7607 is still in standard fleet livery, seen on the X10 today.
Had it been refurbished, or still not touched at all?
Travelled on Blyth's 7615 today- I have to say the heaters were working really well- upstairs, where it's normally cooler, even the handrails were warm! Smile
God these next stop announcements on the 5/5A are driving me mad!!!

Needed to ring home and I had to time it between announcements it's that loud.
An Olympian with Sapphire branding? Wink

https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/77351420@N04/16265118001/

Wish it was the case, some excellent photoshop skills by Sean Blair.

Can't believe that fourth comment!...
(13 Jan 2015, 10:39 am)Jimmi wrote [ -> ]This counts as my annoying post for today.

The 1000 X66 from Darlington didn't turn up so now I'm standing at the front of the bus and have to keep moving for people wanting to be on and off on the 1020 journey - joy!

Move down the bus then!!
(13 Jan 2015, 5:40 pm)Cock Robin wrote [ -> ]Move down the bus then!!

Listen, Cock, there's probably a reason he's standing at the front...there's no bloody seats!!
(13 Jan 2015, 5:40 pm)Cock Robin wrote [ -> ]Move down the bus then!!

I could probably have moved down a bit but I would been a bit more squashed. This was mostly people getting off between Harrowgate Hill and Whinbush, it was practically full seating and standing.
(13 Jan 2015, 4:28 pm)forster wrote [ -> ]Travelled on Blyth's 7615 today- I have to say the heaters were working really well- upstairs, where it's normally cooler, even the handrails were warm! Smile

When did you go on it? I can't remember which one I was on: 1210 X11 Newcastle-Blyth
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