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RE: Trespassing - Diamond One - 28 Jun 2014
Nexus have been worse this year but at the end of the day they do have a job but I try to avoid them the best I can yet when am at Haymarket or Eldon Square they rarely start on me even intu doesn't start whatsoever must be Gateshead staff, Park Lane and Four Lane Ends I'm rarely at Gateshead these days cause am sick to bone of nexus ruling the roost park lane is ok when my 2nd favourite GNE advisor is there which is always while four lane ends I never been there to take photos
RE: Trespassing - Malarkey - 28 Jun 2014
I have much better idea, we stand outside the Nexus HQ in Newcastle with a Massive Banner and our Cameras, and Perhaps get the Bus Operators on board also and have a demonstration against QCS while we are at it, Well maybe not the Second Part as it's bit Extreme.
RE: Trespassing - Diamond One - 28 Jun 2014
(28 Jun 2014, 9:37 pm)NEBCD Malarkey wrote I have much better idea, we stand outside the Nexus HQ in Newcastle with a Massive Banner and our Cameras, and Perhaps get the Bus Operators on board also and have a demonstration against QCS while we are at it, Well maybe not the Second Part as it's bit Extreme.Adam you are a legend one of the finest bus spotters in North East good thinking
RE: Trespassing - Malarkey - 28 Jun 2014
(28 Jun 2014, 9:54 pm)Racer_Experience wrote Adam you are a legend one of the finest bus spotters in North East good thinking
Had a thought on what the Banner could say, and thanks for those kind words Bazza, Back on Topic.
"We're Not Terrorists, We're Bus Enthusiasts"
RE: Trespassing - Adrian - 28 Jun 2014
It's pointless. They'd be more than happy to let you stand there all week. Banner or not. It's not something that's going to gain massive support.
The cameras in the interchange en mass was an idea because it's basic, doesn't require anyone to do anything, and gets their attention.
RE: Trespassing - Malarkey - 28 Jun 2014
(28 Jun 2014, 10:41 pm)aureolin wrote It's pointless. They'd be more than happy to let you stand there all week. Banner or not. It's not something that's going to gain massive support.
The cameras in the interchange en mass was an idea because it's basic, doesn't require anyone to do anything, and gets their attention.
It would work brilliantly if we all stood in separate spots than moved around occasionally, rather than stood together in a Massive Group.
RE: Trespassing - Tom - 29 Jun 2014
(28 Jun 2014, 10:45 pm)NEBCD Malarkey wrote It would work brilliantly if we all stood in separate spots than moved around occasionally, rather than stood together in a Massive Group.
No, that would just cause more trouble.
Re: RE: Trespassing - MrFozz - 29 Jun 2014
(28 Jun 2014, 9:37 pm)NEBCD Malarkey wrote I have much better idea, we stand outside the Nexus HQ in Newcastle with a Massive Banner and our Cameras, and Perhaps get the Bus Operators on board also and have a demonstration against QCS while we are at it, Well maybe not the Second Part as it's bit Extreme.
Would bus operators themselves really care about our predicament, somehow I doubt it
(28 Jun 2014, 10:41 pm)aureolin wrote It's pointless. They'd be more than happy to let you stand there all week. Banner or not. It's not something that's going to gain massive support.
The cameras in the interchange en mass was an idea because it's basic, doesn't require anyone to do anything, and gets their attention.
Aurelion is right here Adam, they will just look and laugh at us muppets stood outside
(28 Jun 2014, 10:45 pm)NEBCD Malarkey wrote It would work brilliantly if we all stood in separate spots than moved around occasionally, rather than stood together in a Massive Group.
If a group stood around separately, you can be picked off 1 by 1...
Look what needs to be done here is to try and open a line of communication with Nexus, we want to know what the problem is about us taking photos in an interchange and why they have forbidden it, let's face it, turning en-masse will only antagonise Nexus and as funny as it would be, do we really want to do that, do we want to give them an opportunity to pick on us every time they see us.
Do things the right way and use something like a protest as a last resort
RE: Trespassing - northern156 - 29 Jun 2014
Would have been the same pr*ck that ushered me away the other week.
I'd be very happy to help in a protest if one goes ahead!
RE: Trespassing - Diamond One - 29 Jun 2014
(29 Jun 2014, 7:42 am)northern156 wrote Would have been the same pr*ck that ushered me away the other week.I will support ya but a protest is a last resort (not that papa roach song)
I'd be very happy to help in a protest if one goes ahead!
RE: Trespassing - Diamond One - 03 Aug 2014
something odd i found on facebook earlier about a bus spotter going mad over he cannot be the 1st for everything and he wants to get things before anyone i say big deal were not all the 1st for everything its only luck e.g once when the Whey Aye Five 0 brand came out on 50/50A i knew i wasn't gonna be the 1st but wasn't bothered about that but then accidently i came the 1st when the South Tyne pulled up outta the blue on my own turf waited 2 hours til it came back but was worth it then i said should i go to Chester-le-Street then i said no theres plenty of time for that i got them all at a slow pace instead of being the 1st which am not bothered about anymore but that day i planned a trip to Chester-le-Street but ended up staying on my own turf but obviously this Sam Ridley is jelous he wants to be the 1st for everything which he cannot get only but luck or chance is how i get it and another incident i was at Heworth once a Northern Dart had broken down on 27 (no longer in the fleet) then 4947 came along all fully branded in Highwayman vinals me and Anthony Armitage were quiet suprised to see it happen and already off route on my local route caught it at Heworth and my own turf and we cannot be the 1st for everything i think everyone knows that its just luck p.s Sam Ridley sounds thretening
Bus Station Photos - mrnut85 - 04 Aug 2014
I was very disappointed to see 2 enthusiasts walking across areas that are not for the general public just to get a photo of a bus. Is it any wonder that nexus and the bus companies have a problem with enthusiasts.
RE: Bus Station Photos - Michael - 04 Aug 2014
(04 Aug 2014, 6:38 pm)mrnut85 wrote I was very disappointed to see 2 enthusiasts walking across areas that are not for the general public just to get a photo of a bus. Is it any wonder that nexus and the bus companies have a problem with enthusiasts.
I was in Stanley last week and seen 2 people standing in middle of the road for photos of the Diamonds at the stands.
RE: Trespassing - Dan - 04 Aug 2014
(04 Aug 2014, 6:38 pm)mrnut85 wrote I was very disappointed to see 2 enthusiasts walking across areas that are not for the general public just to get a photo of a bus. Is it any wonder that nexus and the bus companies have a problem with enthusiasts.
Based on my own sightings and photographs I've seen over the past few days since the demonstrator Merc entered service, I'm guessing you chose to put this in the Go North East section of the forum because you've seen someone run out to get a photo of it... We've discussed this topic at length in this thread, so I've chosen to move it here.
To add my input to this discussion, several photographs have appeared online from more 'well respected' enthusiasts - one of whom you jointly manage a Flickr photostream with - committing the same crime, as it were. I can only imagine that you were disappointed to see those too?
Gateshead Interchange:
https://flic.kr/p/oxPXSQ
MetroCentre:
https://flic.kr/p/ohekPb
https://flic.kr/p/ohekZw
I wouldn't suggest that bus companies do have a problem with enthusiasts. Some ignorant, narrow-minded drivers do, but that's their opinion, and that can't be changed. The companies themselves certainly don't. I know many of us are in contact with members of staff who are employed by 'the big three', and surely if these companies had an issue with enthusiasts, they'd ignore any messages or e-mails sent by enthusiasts?
Nexus doesn't have an issue with enthusiasts taking photographs from safe designated places. They have an issue because enthusiasts choose not to follow these guidelines - but the problem is that there's nothing which actually addresses where photographs can and cannot be taken, and bus station supervisors have to converse with enthusiasts instead. If Nexus (and other parties) took the opportunity to be more enthusiast-friendly by having a section on their website or sticking posters up, perhaps enthusiasts would start listening to what they want...
RE: Trespassing - Tom - 04 Aug 2014
(04 Aug 2014, 6:51 pm)Dan wrote Based on my own sightings and photographs I've seen over the past few days since the demonstrator Merc entered service, I'm guessing you chose to put this in the Go North East section of the forum because you've seen someone run out to get a photo of it... We've discussed this topic at length in this thread, so I've chosen to move it here.
To add my input to this discussion, several photographs have appeared online from more 'well respected' enthusiasts - one of whom you jointly manage a Flickr photostream with - committing the same crime, as it were. I can only imagine that you were disappointed to see those too?
Gateshead Interchange:
https://flic.kr/p/oxPXSQ
MetroCentre:
https://flic.kr/p/ohekPb
https://flic.kr/p/ohekZw
I wouldn't suggest that bus companies do have a problem with enthusiasts. Some ignorant, narrow-minded drivers do, but that's their opinion, and that can't be changed. The companies themselves certainly don't. I know many of us are in contact with members of staff who are employed by 'the big three', and surely if these companies had an issue with enthusiasts, they'd ignore any messages or e-mails sent by enthusiasts?
Nexus doesn't have an issue with enthusiasts taking photographs from safe designated places. They have an issue because enthusiasts choose not to follow these guidelines - but the problem is that there's nothing which actually addresses where photographs can and cannot be taken, and bus station supervisors have to converse with enthusiasts instead. If Nexus (and other parties) took the opportunity to be more enthusiast-friendly by having a section on their website or sticking posters up, perhaps enthusiasts would start listening to what they want...
It's certain people that have ruined it for us spotters who aren't doing anything wrong - but I won't mention any names. I've saw someone running across the road and nearly getting knocked over by a Solar!
RE: Trespassing - Adrian - 04 Aug 2014
(04 Aug 2014, 6:51 pm)Dan wrote Based on my own sightings and photographs I've seen over the past few days since the demonstrator Merc entered service, I'm guessing you chose to put this in the Go North East section of the forum because you've seen someone run out to get a photo of it... We've discussed this topic at length in this thread, so I've chosen to move it here.
To add my input to this discussion, several photographs have appeared online from more 'well respected' enthusiasts - one of whom you jointly manage a Flickr photostream with - committing the same crime, as it were. I can only imagine that you were disappointed to see those too?
Gateshead Interchange:
https://flic.kr/p/oxPXSQ
MetroCentre:
https://flic.kr/p/ohekPb
https://flic.kr/p/ohekZw
I wouldn't suggest that bus companies do have a problem with enthusiasts. Some ignorant, narrow-minded drivers do, but that's their opinion, and that can't be changed. The companies themselves certainly don't. I know many of us are in contact with members of staff who are employed by 'the big three', and surely if these companies had an issue with enthusiasts, they'd ignore any messages or e-mails sent by enthusiasts?
Nexus doesn't have an issue with enthusiasts taking photographs from safe designated places. They have an issue because enthusiasts choose not to follow these guidelines - but the problem is that there's nothing which actually addresses where photographs can and cannot be taken, and bus station supervisors have to converse with enthusiasts instead. If Nexus (and other parties) took the opportunity to be more enthusiast-friendly by having a section on their website or sticking posters up, perhaps enthusiasts would start listening to what they want...
It's OK if Steven Hodgson does it though.
You're right about Nexus though. The latest I've had is that the stance remains that they'll assist enthusiasts in finding a safe and suitable place to take photos from, but they won't tolerate stupid behaviour, trespass, nor those taking a photo at the expense of the experience of customers using the bus station.
I reckon the only way Nexus will ever change their policy is if people started to respect the rules. No photo is worth standing in a daft place to get, and in any case, the bus doesn't just do circles around a bus station so go and find somewhere else along the route to take that 'exclusive' shot.
Re: RE: Trespassing - mrnut85 - 04 Aug 2014
(04 Aug 2014, 6:51 pm)Dan wrote Based on my own sightings and photographs I've seen over the past few days since the demonstrator Merc entered service, I'm guessing you chose to put this in the Go North East section of the forum because you've seen someone run out to get a photo of it... We've discussed this topic at length in this thread, so I've chosen to move it here.I do know that he uses a zoom lense but I can clearly see that a zoom wasn't used to take a rear shot lol. Myself and Half Pint managed a perfectly good photo while standing on a path behind a fence that was accessed by 2 zebra crossings yet the 2 we witnessed decided to walk straight across and stand in what I'd call a very stupid place
To add my input to this discussion, several photographs have appeared online from more 'well respected' enthusiasts - one of whom you jointly manage a Flickr photostream with - committing the same crime, as it were. I can only imagine that you were disappointed to see those too?
Gateshead Interchange:
https://flic.kr/p/oxPXSQ
MetroCentre:
https://flic.kr/p/ohekPb
https://flic.kr/p/ohekZw
I wouldn't suggest that bus companies do have a problem with enthusiasts. Some ignorant, narrow-minded drivers do, but that's their opinion, and that can't be changed. The companies themselves certainly don't. I know many of us are in contact with members of staff who are employed by 'the big three', and surely if these companies had an issue with enthusiasts, they'd ignore any messages or e-mails sent by enthusiasts?
Nexus doesn't have an issue with enthusiasts taking photographs from safe designated places. They have an issue because enthusiasts choose not to follow these guidelines - but the problem is that there's nothing which actually addresses where photographs can and cannot be taken, and bus station supervisors have to converse with enthusiasts instead. If Nexus (and other parties) took the opportunity to be more enthusiast-friendly by having a section on their website or sticking posters up, perhaps enthusiasts would start listening to what they want...
RE: Trespassing - Malarkey - 04 Aug 2014
(04 Aug 2014, 8:12 pm)mrnut85 wrote I do know that he uses a zoom lense but I can clearly see that a zoom wasn't used to take a rear shot lol. Myself and Half Pint managed a perfectly good photo while standing on a path behind a fence that was accessed by 2 zebra crossings yet the 2 we witnessed decided to walk straight across and stand in what I'd call a very stupid place
Looking at the first photo at Gateshead Interchange alone, I think he was standing on one of the small islands on the Entrance/Exit to Gateshead Interchange, could of quite easily of been hit in the face or the back of head by a Wing Mirror, Particularly by an X66 Artic which almost swings around as it comes it Gateshead, due to the Vehicle being so big.
As for the ones at the Metrocentre, particularly the one of the Rear, there is no excuse to stand in the middle of the Road, when there is a Public Footpath a few footsteps behind him. 2nd Photo at the MetroCentre I am not too sure on, obviously we all knoe he more than likely darted across from the S1 Stand into that Position, and the same back over.
But he have done the following, by following the Yellow Line in the Print Screen Below, Very Doubtful I must admit, but I would say there maybe an argument for and against said spot. As it does look safely accessible as shown below.
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Hopefully I will get some Photos on Thursday as didn't over the weekend, I promise they'll from safe Locations, might chuck in a few along the Route also.
RE: Trespassing - Andreos1 - 04 Aug 2014
Tresspassing?
RE: Trespassing - Rapidsnap - 04 Aug 2014
And for the sheer sake of it. Here is my photo of the Merc Demo today and not a bus station in sight.
RE: Trespassing - Tom - 05 Aug 2014
(04 Aug 2014, 11:16 pm)GMitchelhill wrote And for the sheer sake of it. Here is my photo of the Merc Demo today and not a bus station in sight.
Nice shot - I'm going to be aiming for a better one sometime.
RE: Trespassing - Diamond One - 05 Aug 2014
(04 Aug 2014, 11:16 pm)GMitchelhill wrote And for the sheer sake of it. Here is my photo of the Merc Demo today and not a bus station in sight.
and my photo taken at a bus stop near Riverside depot
RE: Trespassing - Malarkey - 05 Aug 2014
(04 Aug 2014, 11:16 pm)GMitchelhill wrote And for the sheer sake of it. Here is my photo of the Merc Demo today and not a bus station in sight.
Nice Photo Gary, I took a few at Gateshead Interchange and MetroCentre, then I took photos at the following Locations.
Just before the Buses go up the Bank and around into Metrocentre Interchange. And then I got the 44 from Riverside to Teams, Before walking from Teams all the way back to Gateshead, Taking Photos at the Traffic Lights at Bottom of Rose Street at Teams, On the Centrelink, followed by High Level Road/Wellington Street and finally Askew Road. In Total I have around 20 Photos of 9120 on the X66.
RE: Trespassing - Diamond One - 15 Aug 2014
I was on a bus 6117 heading to Jarrow on 9 then these kids took a photo on Nexus property on 17:59 bus on 9 today 15/08/2014 where the 35 stops security staff were nowhere to be seen when I take photos nowadays am either In a safe zone where nexus tell us to take photos or am where that church is but these kids really pissed me off that they didn't get caught
RE: Trespassing - Rapidsnap - 16 Aug 2014
I wouldn't let the fact someone taking a photo in the bus station get to you.
Without a doubt, hundreds of photos are taken in the bus station. Ok not of buses themselves, but people taking selfies of themself with the comment sigh bus late again #needtogetcar #uselessbuses #waitingforever #selfie.
Re: RE: Trespassing - Dan - 16 Aug 2014
(16 Aug 2014, 12:11 am)GMitchelhill wrote I wouldn't let the fact someone taking a photo in the bus station get to you.Interesting point to make actually.
Without a doubt, hundreds of photos are taken in the bus station. Ok not of buses themselves, but people taking selfies of themself with the comment sigh bus late again #needtogetcar #uselessbuses #waitingforever #selfie.
I don't see how that should be considered any different to us taking photos, as taking selfies certainly could mean looking at your phone opposed to in the direction you're walking, then causing a few bumps.
RE: Trespassing - gtom - 17 Aug 2014
Well this well constructed rant on Facebook absolutely did not make anyone look a bit crazy...
one Bus Spotter named Sam Ridley is being horrible to Go North East he is bad mouthing passengers, shouting at drivers, being rude to Nexus, being horrible to bus spotters and making up lies about the company saying he wants to become head boss and manager he tells lies alot, he breaks into depots when he video records one driver told him to stop in a calm way which sam refused to do took 7 staff to make him stop recording a video i mean if i was a driver i would not like to be video recorded if say stop but he wouldn't Nexus staff and Go North East staff are now pig sick of him now could ya send a letter to this Sam Ridley or email him next time he emails ya
RE: Trespassing - MurdnunoC - 17 Aug 2014
(17 Aug 2014, 5:53 pm)gtom wrote Well this well constructed rant on Facebook absolutely did not make anyone look a bit crazy...
one Bus Spotter named Sam Ridley is being horrible to Go North East he is bad mouthing passengers, shouting at drivers, being rude to Nexus, being horrible to bus spotters and making up lies about the company saying he wants to become head boss and manager he tells lies alot, he breaks into depots when he video records one driver told him to stop in a calm way which sam refused to do took 7 staff to make him stop recording a video i mean if i was a driver i would not like to be video recorded if say stop but he wouldn't Nexus staff and Go North East staff are now pig sick of him now could ya send a letter to this Sam Ridley or email him next time he emails ya
1) Surely that's an aspiration not a lie.
2) WWE Nexus originally had seven members. I always wondered what Tyson Tarver was doing these days.
RE: Trespassing - gtom - 17 Aug 2014
Worryingly GNE replied...
RE: Trespassing - stueybish - 17 Aug 2014
(17 Aug 2014, 6:17 pm)AdamY wrote 1) Surely that's an aspiration not a lie.
2) WWE Nexus originally had seven members. I always wondered what Tyson Tarver was doing these days.
It seems that the author of this diatribe, has not heeded the well intended advice of others and continues to make slanderous remarks about others, whilst being under the impression that Nexus can impose bans on people being in public places.
Enthusiasts are made to look stupid because of people like this. He needs to learn that not everybody wants to be his friend. This is a fact of life. And just because people do not want to be his friend, or indeed just simply see the world through his eyes, is not a reason to try and get them sacked by making up fairy stories even Roald Dahl would have been proud of.
And PLEASE do not play the disability card again - you know what your are doing, you are not as stupid as you make out to be!
PS. My management have been tipped off, so save yourself the effort of an e-mail.....