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RE: Go North East - Latest - Dan - 20 May 2014
(20 May 2014, 5:51 pm)cbma06 wrote Which would of had a massive effect of delays on service X36, since the X35 and X36 buses are connected, should of never ran the X35/X36 buses together!.
All it takes is a massive delay either end for both services to be heavy delayed.
Flip side of the coin is that service X35 would have operated late all day and not stood a chance of making up time. Let's not forget service X36 (which becomes the next Hartlepool-bound X35) has 22 minutes layover at Park Lane Interchange... If no X35s were dropped today, I guarantee at least four would have been - if there had been no timetable changes.
You'd have thought that an extra bus wasn't added to improve reliability?
RE: Go North East - Latest - Kuyoyo - 20 May 2014
(20 May 2014, 5:51 pm)cbma06 wrote Which would of had a massive effect of delays on service X36, since the X35 and X36 buses are connected, should of never ran the X35/X36 buses together!.
All it takes is a massive delay either end for both services to be heavy delayed.
BIB: So, how exactly do you want them to improve the X35 and run the X36 successfully without wasting massive resources on layover time for say 2 buses? X36 on a half hourly frequency on its own would require 5 buses with one parked up in Park Lane for nearly half an hour while on the present timetable the X35 would either get no turn-around time in Sunderland or you'd have to add a seventh bus into the cycle and end up with a bus laying over in Sunderland for half an hour. Resources that cost money
RE: Go North East - Latest - Dan - 20 May 2014
(20 May 2014, 6:11 pm)Kuyoyo wrote BIB: So, how exactly do you want them to improve the X35 and run the X36 successfully without wasting massive resources on layover time for say 2 buses? X36 on a half hourly frequency on its own would require 5 buses with one parked up in Park Lane for nearly half an hour while on the present timetable the X35 would either get no turn-around time in Sunderland or you'd have to add a seventh bus into the cycle and end up with a bus laying over in Sunderland for half an hour. Resources that cost money
Go North East didn't need to introduce an additional vehicle to the PVR - service X36 takes 58 minutes to operate in each direction and it could have had a 2 minute layover at each end.
Would that have been appropriate? No. Did Go North East consider delays to services which would affect customers? Yes.
Same applies for service X35 as you've pointed out.
Interworking services X35/X36 is the best decision Go North East have made in a long time.
RE: Go North East - Latest - cbma06 - 20 May 2014
(20 May 2014, 6:11 pm)Kuyoyo wrote BIB: So, how exactly do you want them to improve the X35 and run the X36 successfully without wasting massive resources on layover time for say 2 buses? X36 on a half hourly frequency on its own would require 5 buses with one parked up in Park Lane for nearly half an hour while on the present timetable the X35 would either get no turn-around time in Sunderland or you'd have to add a seventh bus into the cycle and end up with a bus laying over in Sunderland for half an hour. Resources that cost money
Many times that l have seen service X36 going over the Wearmouth bridge going to Sunderland Interchange at 05 and 35, this is 5 minutes over the time when the bus is supposed of left Sunderland Interchange as a X35, having the bus doing another route at the destination with a delay has a knock on effect on the second bus service, theres still plenty of passengers complaining because the X35 is delayed up towards 30 minutes at Doxford Park.
RE: Go North East - Latest - Kuyoyo - 20 May 2014
(20 May 2014, 6:26 pm)cbma06 wrote Many times that l have seen service X36 going over the Wearmouth bridge going to Sunderland Interchange at 05 and 35, this is 5 minutes over the time when the bus is supposed of left Sunderland Interchange as a X35, having the bus doing another route at the destination with a delay has a knock on effect on the second bus service, theres still plenty of passengers complaining because the X35 is delayed up towards 30 minutes at Doxford Park.
Again, they get a 22 minutes layover in Park Lane between arriving on the X36 and departing on the X35. What bit of that do you not get!?
RE: Go North East - Latest - cbma06 - 20 May 2014
(20 May 2014, 6:30 pm)Kuyoyo wrote Again, they get a 22 minutes layover in Park Lane between arriving on the X36 and departing on the X35. What bit of that do you not get!?
yes normally their get 22 minutes layover, but not when their arrive at Interchange over 27 minutes late, as i mentioned seeing the X36 going over Wearmouth Bridge at 5 past the hour when the bus should of left Sunderland Interchange on the hour!.
With the next X36 5 minutes behind the one which is delayed!.
RE: Go North East - Latest - Kuyoyo - 20 May 2014
(20 May 2014, 6:35 pm)cbma06 wrote yes normally their get 22 minutes layover, but not when their arrive at Interchange over 27 minutes late, as i mentioned seeing the X36 going over Wearmouth Bridge at 5 past the hour when the bus should of left Sunderland Interchange on the hour!.
No, that bus leaves Park Lane at xx30 not xx00! xx08 arrival from Newcastle goes out at xx30 and the xx38 arrival goes out at xx00.
RE: Go North East - Latest - cbma06 - 20 May 2014
(20 May 2014, 6:37 pm)Kuyoyo wrote No, that bus leaves Park Lane at xx30 not xx00! xx08 arrival from Newcastle goes out at xx30 and the xx38 arrival goes out at xx00.
I was on the X36, with the next bus 5 minutes behind it
the bus was late by 27 minutes
RE: Go North East - Latest - Dan - 20 May 2014
(20 May 2014, 6:40 pm)cbma06 wrote I was on the X36, with the next bus 5 minutes behind it
the bus was late by 27 minutes
I can only assume this was a Match Day? I believe that this has happened (as you'd have no reason to lie about it), but can only imagine it happening on a Match Day as I've certainly encountered no such delays on service X36 on a normal day of operation. I find that the timetable is somewhat lenient compared to other timetables.
If it did happen on a Match Day, then services which don't even go near the Stadium end up being delayed - for whatever reason that is. Increased passenger numbers, increased traffic levels and roads/lanes being blocked off all contribute towards buses being late on Match Days, and there's nothing Go North East can do about it.
You also must remember this has been one bad experience, out of how many? I don't think I've seen one of the 16:08, 16:38 or 17:08 arrivals into Park Lane arrive late in all my time of living over Monkwearmouth, and they're arguably the times which delays are most likely.
RE: Go North East - Latest - gordondack - 20 May 2014
(20 May 2014, 3:02 pm)randomdude wrote Don't know if it's related but there was an npower conference taking place today.
And for the rest of the week
RE: Go North East - Latest - Dan - 21 May 2014
Impressed to see Go North East are offering a £6 M-Ticket - valid on any Go North East bus - for the One Direction concert.
The comparable 3-zone day-ticket with the Key is £7.70!
RE: Go North East - Latest - Jimmi - 21 May 2014
On VOSA.
PB0003954/596 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between HEXHAM BUS STATION and WALLTOWN, ROMAN ARMY MUSEUM given service number AD122 effective from 24-May-2014. To amend Timetable.
PB0003954/597 - GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: WALLTOWN ROMAN ARMY MUSEUM
Finish Point: BRAMPTON MARKET PLACE
Via:
Service Number: AD122
Service Type: Normal Stopping/Hail & Ride
Effective Date: 24-MAY-2014
Other Details: Runs on Saturday & Sunday from 24th May until 28th September 2014 also Monday to Friday (including bank holidays) from 26th May until 29th August 2014
RE: Go North East - Latest - G-CPTN - 21 May 2014
I heard that there was to be an extension of the AD122 Hadrian's Wall bus to include Greenhead and Gilsland (two destinations 'abandoned' by some Arriva 685 journeys).
This must be it.
Timetable:- http://www.simplygo.com/download/publication/61389.9/ad122/
Arriva news:- http://www.hexhamcourant.co.uk/news/gilsland-bus-stop-hopes-dashed-1.1111478
RE: Go North East - Latest - citaro5284 - 21 May 2014
(21 May 2014, 5:00 pm)G-CPTN wrote I heard that there was to be an extension of the AD122 Hadrian's Wall bus to include Greenhead and Gilsland (two destinations 'abandoned' by some Arriva 685 journeys).
This must be it.
Timetable:- http://www.simplygo.com/download/publication/61389.9/ad122/
Sure is, now a 2 bus working!
RE: Go North East - Latest - Michael - 21 May 2014
http://www.simplygo.com/news/closure-of-black-road-at-ryhope-27th-may
http://www.simplygo.com/news/burnhope-way-peterlee-utility-repairs-27th-may
RE: Go North East - Latest - Panasonic44 - 21 May 2014
(20 May 2014, 9:28 am)jaimz13 wrote so how do i get the other routes on the game
For other routes plus help (if needed) goto
http://aussiex.org/forum/index.php?/forum/185-omsi-2-general-discussion/. They will help with any problems you have.
Sorry can't be more helpful (Im queit busy).
RE: Go North East - Latest - busman101 - 21 May 2014
Loving the npower conference, One Direction concert and Hadrian's Wall bus banter - someone must be busy
RE: Go North East - Latest - S813 FVK - 22 May 2014
3813s rear dest is now frozen to 'NOT IN SERVICE'
RE: Go North East - Latest - Dan - 22 May 2014
5374 has a Depot Mentor and a trainee on-board service 60.
RE: Go North East - Latest - Tom - 22 May 2014
Extra buses during the Metro strike.
RE: Go North East - Latest - Malarkey - 22 May 2014
(22 May 2014, 2:55 pm)Tom wrote Extra buses during the Metro strike.
Think it be a wise plan to Operate Double Deckers on the likes of the 1 and the 27, rather than there usual Allocation of Omnicities/Citaros for the Day, otherwise there will be severe Delays to the affected Services.
Another thought I have had is to Allocate the Solar Fusions/Articulated Citaros onto Metro Replacement Service 900, Operating from Heworth Metro to Newcastle Haymarket via Felling - Gateshead Stadium - Gateshead Interchange and Central Station, to help aid Increased Passenger Numbers, this would also ease the Strain on the 27.
RE: Go North East - Latest - Tom - 22 May 2014
(22 May 2014, 3:23 pm)NEBCD Malarkey wrote Think it be a wise plan to Operate Double Deckers on the likes of the 1 and the 27, rather than there usual Allocation of Omnicities/Citaros for the Day, otherwise there will be severe Delays to the affected Services.
Another thought I have had is to Allocate the Solar Fusions/Articulated Citaros onto Metro Replacement Service 900, Operating from Heworth Metro to Newcastle Haymarket via Felling - Gateshead Stadium - Gateshead Interchange and Central Station, to help aid Increased Passenger Numbers, this would also ease the Strain on the 27.
Especially as Percy Main will have 12 X Lolynes spare and 3 X Presidents spare.
RE: Go North East - Latest - citaro5284 - 22 May 2014
(22 May 2014, 3:23 pm)NEBCD Malarkey wrote Think it be a wise plan to Operate Double Deckers on the likes of the 1 and the 27, rather than there usual Allocation of Omnicities/Citaros for the Day, otherwise there will be severe Delays to the affected Services.
Another thought I have had is to Allocate the Solar Fusions/Articulated Citaros onto Metro Replacement Service 900, Operating from Heworth Metro to Newcastle Haymarket via Felling - Gateshead Stadium - Gateshead Interchange and Central Station, to help aid Increased Passenger Numbers, this would also ease the Strain on the 27.
900 will not be operating as far as I know
RE: Go North East - Latest - Malarkey - 22 May 2014
(22 May 2014, 3:28 pm)citaro5284 wrote 900 will not be operating as far as I know
Well that wouldn't be very wise would it.
RE: Go North East - Latest - citaro5284 - 22 May 2014
(22 May 2014, 3:32 pm)NEBCD Malarkey wrote Well that wouldn't be very wise would it.
Remember the 900 is a replacement service funded by Nexus when the Metro is off due to issues within their control, clearly a strike is out of their Control so the service will not operate.
RE: Go North East - Latest - Malarkey - 22 May 2014
(22 May 2014, 3:28 pm)Tom wrote Especially as Percy Main will have 12 X Lolynes spare and 3 X Presidents spare.
Riverside have
x3 Palatine 2's
x1 Gemini (3964)
x14 Vykings
x5 Presidents
Total = 23 Deckers
To Replace
x4 Citaro Artic
x4 Solar Fusions
x14 Citaros
Total = 22 Vehicles
So in reality my Plan is actually doable, I can see a few Independents Operating also, could be good day for Photos if the Strike does go Ahead.
RE: Go North East - Latest - S813 FVK - 22 May 2014
(22 May 2014, 3:42 pm)NEBCD Malarkey wrote Riverside have
x3 Palatine 2's
x1 Gemini (3964)
x14 Vykings
x5 Presidents
Total = 23 Deckers
To Replace
x4 Citaro Artic
x4 Solar Fusions
x14 Citaros
Total = 22 Vehicles
So in reality my Plan is actually doable, I can see a few Independents Operating also, could be good day for Photos if the Strike does go Ahead.
It would be but im not sure that Go North East would want to take the artics off the X66 and X40 and place them onto a different service and to be honest, there isnt much point as Deckers still have a higher capacity than the artics. Placing deckers on the 27 however would work better.
RE: Go North East - Latest - bcal3119 - 22 May 2014
(22 May 2014, 3:42 pm)NEBCD Malarkey wrote Riverside have
x3 Palatine 2's
x1 Gemini (3964)
x14 Vykings
x5 Presidents
Total = 23 Deckers
To Replace
x4 Citaro Artic
x4 Solar Fusions
x14 Citaros
Total = 22 Vehicles
So in reality my Plan is actually doable, I can see a few Independents Operating also, could be good day for Photos if the Strike does go Ahead.
Aren't the spare double deckers in Riverside need to be used in scholar services? If so, I don't think they can be used as extra buses.
Would there be some other coaches or buses working as extras like the tube strike in London?
RE: Go North East - Latest - Dan - 22 May 2014
(22 May 2014, 6:40 pm)bcal3119 wrote Aren't the spare double deckers in Riverside need to be used in scholar services? If so, I don't think they can be used as extra buses.
Would there be some other coaches or buses working as extras like the tube strike in London?
It's half term for a week, starting from this weekend.
RE: Go North East - Latest - R852 PRG - 22 May 2014
(22 May 2014, 6:40 pm)bcal3119 wrote Aren't the spare double deckers in Riverside need to be used in scholar services? If so, I don't think they can be used as extra buses.
Would there be some other coaches or buses working as extras like the tube strike in London?
I know holidays vary by area, but most schools are off during that May week.