(16 Jan 2016, 8:43 pm)LeeCalder wrote I'm referring to visitors to the area, not locals....

(16 Jan 2016, 9:00 pm)tyresmoke wrote I'll agree with you on that one. When I go to other areas (ie not standing in Stockton or Middlesbrough all day) like my recent visit to Kent, personally I find that the branded routes are easier to look at and understand. They stand out (eg the Sapphire and Fastrack routes around Dartford and Chatham) and for me are easier to use, although some of this could be down to the upgraded publicity that goes along with these commercial brands maybe? There has to be more effort put into pushing your commercial brands after spending more than the usual amount on the rebrand I guess, so maybe that makes them easier to understand as a result?

Brands don't have to have a meaning behind them all of the time though. Look at Oyster... What's that got to do with a travel smartcard in London?

(16 Jan 2016, 9:00 pm)tyresmoke wrote I'll agree with you on that one. When I go to other areas (ie not standing in Stockton or Middlesbrough all day) like my recent visit to Kent, personally I find that the branded routes are easier to look at and understand. They stand out (eg the Sapphire and Fastrack routes around Dartford and Chatham) and for me are easier to use, although some of this could be down to the upgraded publicity that goes along with these commercial brands maybe? There has to be more effort put into pushing your commercial brands after spending more than the usual amount on the rebrand I guess, so maybe that makes them easier to understand as a result?

Brands don't have to have a meaning behind them all of the time though. Look at Oyster... What's that got to do with a travel smartcard in London?

(17 Jan 2016, 4:53 pm)Andreos1 wrote Blinds on the 4.
Bournmoor appears as a scrolling via point on the rear blinds ex Houghton. Not on the front though.

Ex Heworth, not on the back. Didn't get the chance to see the front unfortunately.

Noticed it today on 3 vehicles.
I saw 5368 (a 4th vehicle) in both directions.

Any ideas?

(17 Jan 2016, 10:09 pm)Michael wrote Where abouts was 561 involved in its crash?, it must of took some damage for it to be withdrawn.

Just noticed while checking the news.

(17 Jan 2016, 4:53 pm)Andreos1 wrote Blinds on the 4.
Bournmoor appears as a scrolling via point on the rear blinds ex Houghton. Not on the front though.

Ex Heworth, not on the back. Didn't get the chance to see the front unfortunately.

(17 Jan 2016, 5:00 pm)Dan wrote I'll have a look at the programme tomorrow to confirm, but I've had a quick look on Flickr and can see that Bournmoor is included as a via point in both directions on the front display (and taking into consideration what I said above, it should be on the rear display too)

(18 Jan 2016, 4:38 pm)S813 FVK wrote This isn't necessarily a dispute but what is the difference between 'Delves Lane' and 'Delves' in Consett? I was under the impression that they were the same place.

I only ask because 6128 was allocated to service 826 tonight and I noticed its via points were Hounsgill Drive, Delves Lane and Delves.

(18 Jan 2016, 4:47 pm)MurdnunoC wrote https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Delves+Lane,+Consett,+County+Durham+DH8/@54.8419171,-1.8267067,15z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x487dd411eb0e7fc3:0x67c9e5fd36b7c1b8

Delves Lane refers to the area immediately adjacent to Delves Lane, and Delves is the name of the estate situated to the east of Delves Lane.

I know people who live on the latter estate and they refer as to living in Delves Lane. Colloquially, the terms of interchangeable.

(18 Jan 2016, 4:47 pm)MurdnunoC wrote https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Delves+Lane,+Consett,+County+Durham+DH8/@54.8419171,-1.8267067,15z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x487dd411eb0e7fc3:0x67c9e5fd36b7c1b8

Delves Lane refers to the area immediately adjacent to Delves Lane, and Delves is the name of the estate situated to the east of Delves Lane.

I know people who live on the latter estate and they refer as to living in Delves Lane. Colloquially, the terms of interchangeable.

(18 Jan 2016, 5:09 pm)LeeCalder wrote The "Stopping" sign on 5401 is slightly broken...

When the bell is pushed, only the "g" illuminates.

(18 Jan 2016, 4:54 pm)S813 FVK wrote Interesting.

As you've probably gathered already, i have always referred to that area as 'Delves Lane' and only ever said 'Delves' to shorten it down rather than directly referring to the place itself.

Delves Lane is a small village near Consett, County Durham, England, and is not far from the village of Lanchester.
There is a village hall, which was constructed in 1925.

(18 Jan 2016, 5:09 pm)LeeCalder wrote The "Stopping" sign on 5401 is slightly broken...

When the bell is pushed, only the "g" illuminates.

(18 Jan 2016, 5:16 pm)Diamond One wrote Same applies to 4981 thus why am not a fan of this bus as it keeps on dinging its bell even though nobody pressed it

(18 Jan 2016, 5:32 pm)DanPicken wrote South Tyne Versas are the same.

(18 Jan 2016, 5:36 pm)Diamond One wrote Not when am on there not I use that service at least once or twice a week tomorrow I'll be using it

(18 Jan 2016, 5:56 pm)Dan wrote We've discussed this one before - had a quick rake around but can't find the post. Think Michael brought it up originally?

It happens on all of the 09-plate series Optare Versas (and possibly the 10-plate ones too?) It only happens every now and again - it sounds similar to the bell-push sound, but doesn't actually mean that the bell has been pushed. If I remember rightly, someone explained what it was...

(18 Jan 2016, 5:56 pm)Dan wrote We've discussed this one before - had a quick rake around but can't find the post. Think Michael brought it up originally?

It happens on all of the 09-plate series Optare Versas (and possibly the 10-plate ones too?) It only happens every now and again - it sounds similar to the bell-push sound, but doesn't actually mean that the bell has been pushed. If I remember rightly, someone explained what it was...

(18 Jan 2016, 5:56 pm)Dan wrote We've discussed this one before - had a quick rake around but can't find the post. Think Michael brought it up originally?

It happens on all of the 09-plate series Optare Versas (and possibly the 10-plate ones too?) It only happens every now and again - it sounds similar to the bell-push sound, but doesn't actually mean that the bell has been pushed. If I remember rightly, someone explained what it was...

(18 Jan 2016, 5:56 pm)Dan wrote We've discussed this one before - had a quick rake around but can't find the post. Think Michael brought it up originally?

It happens on all of the 09-plate series Optare Versas (and possibly the 10-plate ones too?) It only happens every now and again - it sounds similar to the bell-push sound, but doesn't actually mean that the bell has been pushed. If I remember rightly, someone explained what it was...

(18 Jan 2016, 6:09 pm)Jimmi wrote It seems to be quite common with Optare products in my experience, can often hear them on Solos, wasn't fun the day I got the Scarlet Band 33 from Ferryhill to Sedgefield and the noise was made and had to convince the driver that I hadn't pressed the bell and I didn't want to get off in Mainsforth! :s

Think it's some sort of warning noise or something like that?

(18 Jan 2016, 9:36 pm)DanPicken wrote 6003 has advert boards.

(18 Jan 2016, 9:36 pm)DanPicken wrote 6003 has advert boards.