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RE: Northern Rail - Andreos1 - 17 Mar 2016
(17 Mar 2016, 4:50 pm)South Tyne Lad wrote 156484 is the S&C Branded 156 and it looked a bit scruffy the last time I seen it.
It seems to be last in the queue for Refurb, Most Heaton 156s have been done I believe.
There is at least one more.
It would have been the 1750 on the up from Sunderland. It passed me at Seaham earlier. Didn't get id unfortunately.
RE: Northern Rail - biglugs@yahoo.com - 17 Mar 2016
(17 Mar 2016, 6:19 pm)Andreos1 wrote There is at least one more.
It would have been the 1750 on the up from Sunderland. It passed me at Seaham earlier. Didn't get id unfortunately.
The 1750 is booked a sprinter
RE: Northern Rail - tyresmoke - 17 Mar 2016
Saw a 142+156 combo today arriving from Whitby into Middlesbrough at lunchtime, presume they pinched the spare 142 from the morning coast service that brings 2x142 down
RE: Northern Rail - northern156 - 17 Mar 2016
It's not uncommon to see other depot's 156s/142s (more so the latter) on other runs around different regions. All to do with replacing units or having different maintenance regimes.
If Heaton want a 156 to Allerton (for overhaul for example) it's put onto various diagrams to get it down there. For instance ending up at Carlisle one day, then Barrow, then Newton Heath then Allerton.
RE: Northern Rail - Andreos1 - 19 Mar 2016
156 469 hasn't had blinds done nor NSA's.
It does have a wheelchair bay though.
New or in a while? Can't recall ever seeing it previously.
Edit: It also has two banks of priority seating (with seating that has a different colour fabric) and an accessible toilet.
RE: Northern Rail - Michael - 24 Mar 2016
Seems to be a lot of police around today...
Two were at Sunderland station and theres also one on the Northern train which left Sunderland at 8:30am for Newcastle.
Anyone know why?
RE: Northern Rail - Andreos1 - 24 Mar 2016
(24 Mar 2016, 8:42 am)Michael wrote Seems to be a lot of police around today...
Two were at Sunderland station and theres also one on the Northern train which left Sunderland at 8:30am for Newcastle.
Anyone know why?
BTP or Northumbria? Chances are that they're after crims.
RE: Northern Rail - Michael - 24 Mar 2016
(24 Mar 2016, 8:45 am)Andreos1 wrote BTP or Northumbria? Chances are that they're after crims.
Not sure, i couldn't see on the train but he had a hat on haha
RE: Northern Rail - LeeCalder - 24 Mar 2016
(24 Mar 2016, 8:42 am)Michael wrote Seems to be a lot of police around today...
Two were at Sunderland station and theres also one on the Northern train which left Sunderland at 8:30am for Newcastle.
Anyone know why?
Probably after what's been happening around Europe recently...
RE: Northern Rail - Michael - 24 Mar 2016
(24 Mar 2016, 5:54 pm)LeeCalder wrote Probably after what's been happening around Europe recently...
Maybe but i doubt they'll attack Sunderland train station.
RE: Northern Rail - northern156 - 24 Mar 2016
(24 Mar 2016, 6:04 pm)Michael wrote Maybe but i doubt they'll attack Sunderland train station.
That's not the point...
RE: Northern Rail - Michael - 24 Mar 2016
(24 Mar 2016, 10:34 pm)northern156 wrote That's not the point...
I know that.
RE: Northern Rail - anvil1984 - 25 Mar 2016
There's a BTP office in Sunderland station, could've just been checking in there
RE: Northern Rail - 8222 - 30 Mar 2016
Good morning all,
I was wondering if anyone knows if there's going to be a new livery for the new Northern franchise? If so, does anyone know if they have a unit under wraps waiting to be unveiled?
RE: Northern Rail - NK53 TKT - 30 Mar 2016
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_(train_operating_company)
The livery is near the top of the page
RE: Northern Rail - S813 FVK - 30 Mar 2016
(30 Mar 2016, 9:12 am)NK53 TKT wrote https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_(train_operating_company)
The livery is near the top of the page
Only the logo is present?
RE: Northern Rail - NK53 TKT - 30 Mar 2016
(30 Mar 2016, 9:15 am)S813 FVK wrote Only the logo is present?
Oops, my bad. The livery I assume will be based on that
RE: Northern Rail - omnicity4659 - 30 Mar 2016
That's not the new livery. The new logo is present but the train pictured has carried that livery for a few years now!
RE: Northern Rail - northern156 - 30 Mar 2016
(30 Mar 2016, 12:12 pm)GX03 SVC wrote That's not the new livery. The new logo is present but the train pictured has carried that livery for a few years now!
^ what Tommy said.
I don't think there'll be a new livery any time soon especially seeing as it'd have to be applied to everything they have.
On the new-build units, yeah I imagine they'll have some snazzy livery.
RE: Northern Rail - Adrian - 30 Mar 2016
(30 Mar 2016, 3:39 pm)northern156 wrote ^ what Tommy said.
I don't think there'll be a new livery any time soon especially seeing as it'd have to be applied to everything they have.
On the new-build units, yeah I imagine they'll have some snazzy livery.
Yeah I think you'll be right there. The immediate fix will likely to be a logo decal, similar to what the First Capital Connect units received.
RE: Northern Rail - Andreos1 - 30 Mar 2016
One thing I have noticed over the last few weeks is a white sticker that is placed on any Northern signage on the train, such as posters.
Email addresses aren't covered.
The white stickers have also appeared at Northern managed stations.
Local tpe logos such as the West Yorks Metro and Tees Valley remain.
RE: Northern Rail - northern156 - 30 Mar 2016
(30 Mar 2016, 4:31 pm)Andreos1 wrote One thing I have noticed over the last few weeks is a white sticker that is placed on any Northern signage on the train, such as posters.
Email addresses aren't covered.
The white stickers have also appeared at Northern managed stations.
Local tpe logos such as the West Yorks Metro and Tees Valley remain.
That's the space for the new logo come 1st April
RE: Northern Rail - Andreos1 - 30 Mar 2016
(30 Mar 2016, 4:33 pm)northern156 wrote That's the space for the new logo come 1st April
And new literature too I would hope!
RE: Northern Rail - northern156 - 30 Mar 2016
(30 Mar 2016, 4:36 pm)Andreos1 wrote And new literature too I would hope!
In what sense?
Northern Rail - TEN 6083 - 30 Mar 2016
(30 Mar 2016, 9:08 am)8222 wrote Good morning all,
I was wondering if anyone knows if there's going to be a new livery for the new Northern franchise? If so, does anyone know if they have a unit under wraps waiting to be unveiled?
https://flic.kr/p/FnUtn3
Might be similar to this one that's operating in Yorkshire
RE: Northern Rail - northern156 - 30 Mar 2016
(30 Mar 2016, 4:57 pm)TEN 6083 wrote https://flic.kr/p/FnUtn3
Might be similar to this one that's operating in Yorkshire
That's only of the Class 144 refurbished prototype. Nothing has been said about the new livery - if there will be one at this stage.
I personally doubt it would be the same as 144012; the colour scheme on it (purple and blue) seems the same as the current Serco/Abellio joint venture.
RE: Northern Rail - Adrian - 30 Mar 2016
(30 Mar 2016, 4:31 pm)Andreos1 wrote One thing I have noticed over the last few weeks is a white sticker that is placed on any Northern signage on the train, such as posters.
Email addresses aren't covered.
The white stickers have also appeared at Northern managed stations.
Local tpe logos such as the West Yorks Metro and Tees Valley remain.
(30 Mar 2016, 4:36 pm)Andreos1 wrote And new literature too I would hope!
It's a difficult one. Companies obviously use their own FQDN for email addressing, and you wouldn't expect anything less. The incoming franchisee isn't providing customer services until the start of the contract, and the incumbent is expected to provide it until the end. Customers need to know where to write to. I'd imagine their customer services email address with the northernrail.org FQDN would be forwarded to the new address, for a set period of time.
I'd hope new timetables and such will be printed for the start of the franchise. You can't stick a little white sticker over every single timetable, so they've not much choice really. I can't recall whether Virgin had theirs ready for the ECML on day 1 or not?
RE: Northern Rail - Andreos1 - 30 Mar 2016
(30 Mar 2016, 4:56 pm)northern156 wrote In what sense?
Just that. On board literature, such as the 'be a hero' stuff, 'hello my carriage name is... and contact details'. The new tocs contact details need added in addition to removing any old stuff.
(30 Mar 2016, 5:20 pm)Adrian wrote It's a difficult one. Companies obviously use their own FQDN for email addressing, and you wouldn't expect anything less. The incoming franchisee isn't providing customer services until the start of the contract, and the incumbent is expected to provide it until the end. Customers need to know where to write to. I'd imagine their customer services email address with the northernrail.org FQDN would be forwarded to the new address, for a set period of time.
I'd hope new timetables and such will be printed for the start of the franchise. You can't stick a little white sticker over every single timetable, so they've not much choice really. I can't recall whether Virgin had theirs ready for the ECML on day 1 or not?
It seems daft removing all trace of Northern Rail - apart from the email address, postal address and text numbers.
The new Northern are going to have to change them all regardless. Even if there is a period of forwarding on.
They may as well have left Northern Rail logos in place and not covered them up.
Totally understand why the name is being removed from stations though.
Interestingly, the station manager contact details aren't covered up in a big white sticker! Maybe those people are staying?
I can't remember the EC/VTEC handover to be honest. Whether it was the on board branding or railway station stuff.
Even though it was only a year ago!
I may have been in too much of a huff with the ending of rewards to actually notice!
RE: Northern Rail - tyresmoke - 31 Mar 2016
Pretty much guaranteed that a new livery will be introduced but only on new and refurbished units... So basically the current fleet will gain it as they go through the major refurbishment so that they meet the spec for the new franchise (none of the units do as things stand at day one...!). The new units will be delivered in the new livery obviously. I'm intrigued to see what it will look like, but don't forget they have the Northern Connect brand for longer distance services also.
RE: Northern Rail - South Tyne Lad - 31 Mar 2016
(31 Mar 2016, 2:54 pm)tyresmoke wrote Pretty much guaranteed that a new livery will be introduced but only on new and refurbished units... So basically the current fleet will gain it as they go through the major refurbishment so that they meet the spec for the new franchise (none of the units do as things stand at day one...!). The new units will be delivered in the new livery obviously. I'm intrigued to see what it will look like, but don't forget they have the Northern Connect brand for longer distance services also.
I'm led to believe that the new livery is going to be similar to Arriva Trains Wales's Livery. ( Standard livery, Not Northern Connect )