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RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2 - Stanleyone - 18 Dec 2019
(18 Dec 2019, 10:48 am)pbjd Hopefully the new interworking will allow increased running times, although the introduction of more reliable buses would help too.Don’t know if true but cascades of the red kite (Streetlites) have been rumoured
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2 - streetdeckfan - 18 Dec 2019
(18 Dec 2019, 11:38 am)Jamie M What's your point?! That we should or shouldn't be speeding???
I'm indifferent, I honestly prefer the drivers that have a heavy foot! (especially on the X21, some of the new drivers just dawdle along below the speed limit)
I was more making a point about the fact that I see very few people actually take notice of the 20 zone, it's common to even see Police drive through Whickham at 30
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2 - Jamie M - 18 Dec 2019
(18 Dec 2019, 11:48 am)streetdeckfan I honestly prefer the drivers that have a heavy foot! (especially on the X21, some of the new drivers just dawdle along below the speed limit)
You, my friend, are deluded.
Speed limits are in place for safety, it's not up to us to alter them. My point is that we need more time to cope and to stop so many drivers speeding. More running time = less rushing around.
The more time spent rushing, the more bumps and issues for drivers. This is a very serious and real issue, which is experienced when someone ends up being hurt, or worse.
I honestly don't believe what I'm seeing you say and advocating speeding or driving "with a heavy foot". It's disappointing to say the least that this has to be explained.
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2 - streetdeckfan - 18 Dec 2019
(18 Dec 2019, 11:56 am)Jamie M You, my friend, are deluded.
Speed limits are in place for safety, it's not up to us to alter them. My point is that we need more time to cope and to stop so many drivers speeding. More running time = less rushing around.
The more time spent rushing, the more bumps and issues for drivers. This is a very serious and real issue, which is experienced when someone ends up being hurt, or worse.
I honestly don't believe what I'm seeing you say and advocating speeding or driving "with a heavy foot". It's disappointing to say the least that this has to be explained.
In the case of the X21 I was talking about drivers actually driving the speed limit, it's probably because they don't know the roads as well as the Crook drivers, but some of them drive infuriatingly slow.
As for the 20 zone in Whickham, I don't believe that it needs to be a 20 zone all the way through, some parts definitely, but the majority of it should still be a 30.
I wasn't advocating speeding, just that I'm indifferent whether people speed or not, and I used the term "with a heavy foot" to juxtapose the next point about drivers dawdling, not to take literally.
I actually really dislike going fast, I much prefer fast acceleration to raw speed
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2 - deanmachine - 18 Dec 2019
(18 Dec 2019, 11:46 am)Stanleyone Don’t know if true but cascades of the red kite (Streetlites) have been rumoured
I would've guessed the Mercs displaced by the upcoming service changes, as well as the interworking. Guessing it means another brand being lost as well as the Toon Links.
Although, it depends on the Newcastle LEZ really doesn't it, do buses have to be Euro 6 to not get fined? I imagine it would be easier to upgrade a Streetlite than a Merc.
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2 - streetdeckfan - 18 Dec 2019
(18 Dec 2019, 2:50 pm)deanmachine I would've guessed the Mercs displaced by the upcoming service changes, as well as the interworking. Guessing it means another brand being lost as well as the Toon Links.
Although, it depends on the Newcastle LEZ really doesn't it, do buses have to be Euro 6 to not get fined? I imagine it would be easier to upgrade a Streetlite than a Merc.
Aren't the Streetlites already at Euro 6?
And doesn't the proposal for the LEZ say they have to be both Euro 6 and newer than 2012
My memory isn't the best so I could be wrong on both fronts!
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RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2 - Jamie M - 18 Dec 2019
(18 Dec 2019, 3:32 pm)streetdeckfan Aren't the Streetlites already at Euro 6?15/16 reg ones are Euro V
And doesn't the proposal for the LEZ say they have to be both Euro 6 and newer than 2012
My memory isn't the best so I could be wrong on both fronts!
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RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2 - streetdeckfan - 18 Dec 2019
(18 Dec 2019, 3:34 pm)Jamie M 15/16 reg ones are Euro VAah, I keep forgetting about them!
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RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2 - deanmachine - 18 Dec 2019
(18 Dec 2019, 3:32 pm)streetdeckfan Aren't the Streetlites already at Euro 6?
And doesn't the proposal for the LEZ say they have to be both Euro 6 and newer than 2012
My memory isn't the best so I could be wrong on both fronts!
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Possibly, in regards to them being 2012 and newer, as the B9s that have been upgraded all have been the newer ones, although Stagecoach are keeping buses that are still older than 2012. I can't imagine it would be hard to upgrade any of the streetlites, they're not exactly dirty buses, and they're running basically the same engine as the newest E200s.
Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2 - Dan - 18 Dec 2019
(18 Dec 2019, 2:50 pm)deanmachine I would've guessed the Mercs displaced by the upcoming service changes, as well as the interworking. Guessing it means another brand being lost as well as the Toon Links.
Although, it depends on the Newcastle LEZ really doesn't it, do buses have to be Euro 6 to not get fined? I imagine it would be easier to upgrade a Streetlite than a Merc.
Neither can be upgraded - but there’s still a fair bit of time before every bus needs to be Euro 6, so yes, it will be Citaros allocated to the 6.
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RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2 - Michael - 18 Dec 2019
(18 Dec 2019, 2:50 pm)deanmachine I would've guessed the Mercs displaced by the upcoming service changes, as well as the interworking. Guessing it means another brand being lost as well as the Toon Links.
Which Mercs are these again?
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2 - Jamie M - 18 Dec 2019
(18 Dec 2019, 5:58 pm)Michael Which Mercs are these again?Wouldnt want to spill the beans that much!
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2 - pbjd - 18 Dec 2019
(18 Dec 2019, 6:22 pm)Jamie M Wouldnt want to spill the beans that much!
Not that it's particularly hard to work out.
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2 - deanmachine - 18 Dec 2019
(18 Dec 2019, 6:24 pm)pbjd Not that it's particularly hard to work out.
Where could the 6 interwork with another service using Citaros... hmmm
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2 - Stanleyone - 18 Dec 2019
(18 Dec 2019, 6:24 pm)pbjd Not that it's particularly hard to work out.Are the service changes in the public domain yet?, personally I don’t know all the changes.
Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2 - Dan - 18 Dec 2019
(18 Dec 2019, 6:45 pm)Stanleyone Are the service changes in the public domain yet?, personally I don’t know all the changes.
Nope - only registered with the traffic commissioner last Friday, but as driver briefings have gone out to depots, it won’t be long before the changes are “public” knowledge.
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Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2 - streetdeckfan - 18 Dec 2019
Who's gonna take one for the team and leak it then? (Obviously I'm not condoning breaching your employment contract or anything)
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RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2 - Michael - 18 Dec 2019
(18 Dec 2019, 6:44 pm)deanmachine Where could the 6 interwork with another service using Citaros... hmmm
The 12/12A
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2 - Kuyoyo - 19 Dec 2019
PB0003954/1142 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Durham, Bus Station to West Auckland, Eden Garage
Service number: X21 ()
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 26 Jan 2020
Up to every 30 minutes, seven days a week
PB0003954/1141 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Newcastle, Eldon Square to Durham Bus Station
Service number: X21 ()
Service type: Limited Stop, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 26 Jan 2020
Up to every 15 minutes, seven days a week
PB0003954/1140 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Metrocentre Interchange to Stanley Bus Station
Service number: M6 (M7, M8)
Service type: Hail & Ride, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 26 Jan 2020
Up to every 20 minutes, seven days a week
PB0003954/1139 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Crookgate, Bank Top to Tanfield School
Service number: 836 ()
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 26 Jan 2020
One return journey per day, school days only
PB0003954/1138 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Gateshead Interchange to Gateshead Interchange
Service number: 64 ()
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 26 Jan 2020
Monday to Saturday up to every 60 minutes
PB0003954/1137 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Newcastle, Market Street to Wardle, Lingley Lane
Service number: 57 ()
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 26 Jan 2020
Up to every 20 minutes, seven days a week
PB0003954/1136 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Stanley, Bus Station to Fines Park
Service number: 32 ()
Service type: Hail & Ride, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 26 Jan 2020
Monday to Saturday, up to every 60 minutes
PB0003954/1135 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Stanley, Bus Station to Lanchester, Village Green
Service number: 30 ()
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 26 Jan 2020
Monday to Saturday, every 60 minutes
PB0003954/810 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Newbrough, Church Lane to Newcastle, Eldon Square Bus Station
Service number: X84 (X85)
Service type: Hail & Ride, Limited Stop, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 26 Jan 2020
PB0003954/351 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: South Shields Interchange to Newcastle, Market Street
Service number: 27 (26)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 26 Jan 2020
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2 - streetdeckfan - 19 Dec 2019
(19 Dec 2019, 2:52 pm)Kuyoyo PB0003954/1142 RegisteredGreat to see they've finally extended the X21 to West (where it should have went from the start!). I'm guessing the split at Durham is because the route would then be too long for a single journey like the X9/X10
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Durham, Bus Station to West Auckland, Eden Garage
Service number: X21 ()
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 26 Jan 2020
Up to every 30 minutes, seven days a week
PB0003954/1141 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Newcastle, Eldon Square to Durham Bus Station
Service number: X21 ()
Service type: Limited Stop, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 26 Jan 2020
Up to every 15 minutes, seven days a week
PB0003954/1140 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Metrocentre Interchange to Stanley Bus Station
Service number: M6 (M7, M8)
Service type: Hail & Ride, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 26 Jan 2020
Up to every 20 minutes, seven days a week
PB0003954/1139 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Crookgate, Bank Top to Tanfield School
Service number: 836 ()
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 26 Jan 2020
One return journey per day, school days only
PB0003954/1138 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Gateshead Interchange to Gateshead Interchange
Service number: 64 ()
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 26 Jan 2020
Monday to Saturday up to every 60 minutes
PB0003954/1137 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Newcastle, Market Street to Wardle, Lingley Lane
Service number: 57 ()
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 26 Jan 2020
Up to every 20 minutes, seven days a week
PB0003954/1136 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Stanley, Bus Station to Fines Park
Service number: 32 ()
Service type: Hail & Ride, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 26 Jan 2020
Monday to Saturday, up to every 60 minutes
PB0003954/1135 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Stanley, Bus Station to Lanchester, Village Green
Service number: 30 ()
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 26 Jan 2020
Monday to Saturday, every 60 minutes
PB0003954/810 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Newbrough, Church Lane to Newcastle, Eldon Square Bus Station
Service number: X84 (X85)
Service type: Hail & Ride, Limited Stop, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 26 Jan 2020
PB0003954/351 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: South Shields Interchange to Newcastle, Market Street
Service number: 27 (26)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 26 Jan 2020
Two major questions I still have is will it still terminate at Bishop Bus Station on a Sunday and will it run to West on an evening!
I also wonder if they'll change the route through Woodhouse as I don't think they can go to West without increasing the PVR (again) unless they cut out part of Woodhouse
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