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RE: Go North East - Latest - Dan - 20 Jun 2014 (20 Jun 2014, 7:37 pm)DaveyBowyer wrote Are GNE removing the Key Readers and instead just having Key Cards and passes scanned on the top? No. RE: Go North East - Latest - L469 YVK - 20 Jun 2014 No but I've noticed that 6101 and 6106 no longer have the readers installed. RE: Go North East - Latest - Dan - 20 Jun 2014 (20 Jun 2014, 7:39 pm)DaveyBowyer wrote No but I've noticed that 6101 and 6106 no longer have the readers installed. I'd imagine they're broken and are undergoing repair/replacement with whichever company GNE bought them off. A number of Percy Main's vehicles are all the same. RE: Go North East - Latest - jeffman - 20 Jun 2014 (20 Jun 2014, 7:37 pm)DaveyBowyer wrote Are GNE removing the Key Readers and instead just having Key Cards and passes scanned on the top? External readers are slowly being removed but it'll take time, the engineers need to adjust the hole in the assault screen to give easy access for passengers. RE: Go North East - Latest - Adrian - 20 Jun 2014 6087 seems to have a problem with rear and side destination screens. Front is working OK. RE: Go North East - Latest - Greg in Weardale - 20 Jun 2014 (20 Jun 2014, 8:28 pm)jeffman wrote External readers are slowly being removed but it'll take time, the engineers need to adjust the hole in the assault screen to give easy access for passengers. Can't understand why external readers are being removed. They're much easier to use and speed up boarding on GNE buses compared with Arriva's. And issuing tickets for concession passes is just illogical - the only good thing about the weird and pretty useless ticket machines Weardale & Scarlet Band use (designed by some idiot who knew absolutely nowt about bus operation) is that they don't issue tickets for passes. RE: Go North East - Latest - Rapidsnap - 20 Jun 2014 Did a bit working out and if the Gemini 3 sticks to the same run board M-F next week it should be doing this. 31 Parkhead Estate - 0642 Winlaton Bus Station - 0648 32 Winlaton Bus Station - 0652 Blaydon Bus Station - 0700 Newcastle Bus. Park - 0707 Newcastle Eldon Square - 0719 31 Newcastle Eldon Square - 0730 Metrocentre Bus Sta - 0748 Swalwell - 0754 Winlaton Bus Station - 0808 32 Winlaton Bus Station - 0811 Blaydon Bus Station - 0820 Newcastle Bus. Park - 0837 Newcastle Eldon Square - 0841 47 Newcastle Eldon Square - 0845 Metrocentre Bus Sta - 0905 Winlaton Mill - 0914 Rowlands Gill - 0920 High Spen - 0929 Chopwell - 0906 Blackhall Mill - 0911 47 Blackhall Mill - 0914 Chopwell - 0919 High Spen - 0927 Rowlands Gill - 0936 Winlaton Mill - 0942 Metrocentre Bus Sta - 0953 Newcastle Eldon Square - 1011 32 Newcastle Eldon Square - 1015 Newcastle Bus. Park - 1027 Blaydon Bus Station - 1034 Winlaton Bus Station - 1041 31 Winlaton Bus Station - 1046 Swalwell - 1101 Metrocentre Bus Sta - 1108 Newcastle Eldon Square - 1124 11 Newcastle Eldon Square - 1128 Newcastle Bus. Park - 1140 Blaydon Bus Station - 1147 Ryton - 1154 Crawcrook - 1158 Greenside - 1208 High Spen - 1213 Chopwell - 1219 Blackhall Mill - 1224 11 Blackhall Mill - 1227 Chopwell - 1232 High Spen - 1239 Greenside - 1244 Crawcrook - 1254 Ryton - 1259 Blaydon Bus Station - 1307 Newcastle Bus. Park - 1314 Newcastle Eldon Square - 1326 31 Newcastle Eldon Square - 1330 Metrocentre Bus Sta - 1348 Swalwell - 1354 Winlaton Bus Station - 1408 32 Winlaton Bus Station - 1413 Blaydon Bus Station - 1422 Newcastle Bus. Park - 1429 Newcastle Eldon Square - 1441 47 Newcastle Eldon Square - 1445 Metrocentre Bus Sta - 1505 Winlaton Mill - 1514 Rowlands Gill - 1520 High Spen - 1529 Chopwell - 1536 Blackhall Mill - 1541 47 Blackhall Mill - 1544 Chopwell - 1549 High Spen - 1557 Rowlands Gill - 1606 Winlaton Mill - 1612 Metrocentre Bus Sta - 1623 Newcastle Eldon Square - 1641 32 Newcastle Eldon Square - 1645 Newcastle Bus. Park - 1657 Blaydon Bus Station - 1706 Winlaton Bus Station - 1713 31 Winlaton Bus Station - 1716 Swalwell - 1731 Metrocentre Bus Sta - 1738 Newcastle Eldon Square - 1754 11 Newcastle Eldon Square - 1805 Newcastle Bus. Park - 1817 Blaydon Bus Station - 1824 Ryton - 1831 Crawcrook - 1835 Greenside - 1845 High Spen - 1850 Chopwell - 1856 Blackhall Mill - 1901 47 Blackhall Mill - 1903 Chopwell - 1908 High Spen - 1914 via Bus Stand rtn 1918 Rowlands Gill - 1927 Winlaton Mill - 1932 Metrocentre Bus Sta - 1940 Newcastle Eldon Square - 1955 32 Newcastle Eldon Square - 2000 Newcastle Bus. Park - 2011 Blaydon Bus Station - 2018 Winlaton Bus Station - 2025 31 Winlaton Bus Station - 2028 Swalwell - 2041 Metrocentre Bus Sta - 2047 Newcastle Eldon Square - 2100 47 Newcastle Eldon Square - 2105 Metrocentre Bus Sta - 2124 Winlaton Mill - 2133 Rowlands Gill - 2138 High Spen - 2146 via Bus Stand rtn 2149 Chopwell - 2156 Blackhall Mill - 2200 Return light to Depot RE: Go North East - Latest - westy3738 - 21 Jun 2014 Gazz, that board does the 09.00 31 ex Newcastle, not the 08.45 47. Re: RE: Go North East - Latest - Adrian - 21 Jun 2014 (20 Jun 2014, 8:28 pm)jeffman wrote External readers are slowly being removed but it'll take time, the engineers need to adjust the hole in the assault screen to give easy access for passengers.I can't see that being the case. if I was a driver, I wouldn't want everyone's dirty mitts all over a ticket machine I have to use. Re: RE: Go North East - Latest - Dan - 21 Jun 2014 (21 Jun 2014, 6:38 am)aureolin wrote I can't see that being the case. if I was a driver, I wouldn't want everyone's dirty mitts all over a ticket machine I have to use.I think it is still up for discussion between management at the moment, but I'm definitely on the "I don't think it will happen" side - primarily because Customer Services were advising passengers on the B5TL photo on Facebook that external readers aren't being phased out. It will be down to the fact there's quite a few of the external readers which don't work, and if there is only one place to scan passes, I don't think as many issues will arise. If they all are removed, GNE have paid for 700 of these external readers only for them to be removed later - especially after a whole campaign was launched around the external readers too. Seems unlikely to me. RE: Go North East - Latest - Rapidsnap - 21 Jun 2014 (21 Jun 2014, 6:20 am)westy3738 wrote Gazz, that board does the 09.00 31 ex Newcastle, not the 08.45 47. Westy which parts did I get right and what does it do in the am peak. RE: Go North East - Latest - Dan - 21 Jun 2014 (21 Jun 2014, 8:01 am)GMitchelhill wrote Westy which parts did I get right and what does it do in the am peak. I'm lazy so won't do it in the format you did it, but in short... First run of the day is from Blackhall Mill, and that's the 0704 departure arriving into Newcastle at 0806. Departures from Newcastle are then as follows: 0815 (Service 47), return on a 47. 1015 (Service 32), return on a 31. 1128 (Service 11), return on an 11. 1330 (Service 31), return on a 32. 1445 (Service 47), return on a 47. 1700 (Service 31), return on a 32. 1820 (Service 47), return on a 47. 2030 (Service 31), return on a 32. 2145 (Service 47), return to Winlaton Mill on a 47 and then light to depot. Westy is probably the guy to ask if it stays out all night though, as I've only seen it up to the 1700 departure. RE: Go North East - Latest - Tom - 21 Jun 2014 (21 Jun 2014, 8:27 am)Dan wrote I'm lazy so won't do it in the format you did it, but in short... Is this the same for today too? RE: Go North East - Latest - Dan - 21 Jun 2014 (21 Jun 2014, 8:29 am)Tom wrote Is this the same for today too? I'd imagine so, but double check the timetable with those departures from Newcastle first. No blaming me if Riverside decide to allocate it to a different board though! They've managed to do it for two days fine, so hopefully today will be fine too. RE: Go North East - Latest - northern156 - 21 Jun 2014 Will let you know in a few minutes! Go North East - Latest - C265XEF - 21 Jun 2014 It's on 1045 service 32 from Newcastle RE: Go North East - Latest - L469 YVK - 21 Jun 2014 In all honestly with you all, GNE should allocate it to the long TEN or as many as possible and do a performance rating against the B9TL. The real challenge will be a fully laden B5 between Prudhoe and Hexham. In fact, the only B9TL route that I would deem the B5 to be capable of handling would be the 310 so practically, none taking into account that it interworks with the 309. What they could do however is this: - 6101 to Riverside for the TTX making it upto 7 B9TL'S. - 6102 to 6111 at Percy Main plus 6116 (spare) for the 309 with a PVR of 10 and running every 15 minutes including between Whitley Bay and Blyth. Services 309 and 310 would no longer interwork. - 7 plus one spare (6118 - 6125) Volvo B5TL's delivered to Percy Main for service 310 . - 2 plus two spare (6126 - 6129) Volvo B5LH's delivered to CLS to make up the PVR and spares for service 21. - Therefore, 5 Volvo B9TL's (6112- 6115 & 6117), and 3 Volvo B7TL's (3962 - 3963 & 3965 have been released). - 3962 would swap with 6116 with it only acting as a spare and 6099 and 6100 would swap with 3963 and 3965. The above would mean the following: - 8 Volvo B9TL's (6099, 6100, 6112, 6113, 6114, 6115, 6116 and 6117) would be for the Pronto X21. - 10 Volvo B9TL's (6102 - 6111) plus one Volvo B7TL (3962) would be for Cobalt Clipper 309. - 7 Volvo B5TL's plus one spare (6118 - 6125) would be for Cobalt Clipper 310. - 2 Volvo B5LH's plus two spare (6126 - 6129) would join Angel service 21. - 1 Volvo B9TL (6101) would join the TTX and the bugfy bay would be removed with extra seats. - 2 Volvo B7TL's (3963 and 3965) would now act as spares for the Fab 56. RE: Go North East - Latest - citaro5284 - 21 Jun 2014 (21 Jun 2014, 9:52 am)DaveyBowyer wrote In all honestly with you all, GNE should allocate it to the long TEN or as many as possible and do a performance rating against the B9TL. Why, as if they buy any, it will not be doing any of those routes, it has to be tested on the routes they are going to work on? RE: Go North East - Latest - Dan - 21 Jun 2014 Can't remember what I have and have not noted now, so... Fast Cats: 4974 has now been repainted a plain black base livery at Saltmeadows, and has now returned to service. 4954 is the next example to arrive at Saltmeadows for repaint. Lime: 4897 likewise has now returned to Stanley following repaint into corporate livery at Saltmeadows. 4898 is the next example to arrive at Saltmeadows for repaint. RE: Go North East - Latest - G-CPTN - 21 Jun 2014 (21 Jun 2014, 10:17 am)citaro5284 wrote Why, as if they buy any, it will not be doing any of those routes, it has to be tested on the routes they are going to work on? But what happens when the B5TL replaces the B9TL, Shirley? What will the TEN do then, poor thing? Will Volvo fit the 8 litre engine? http://www.volvobuses.com/bus/uk/en-gb/newsmedia/pressreleases/_layouts/CWP.Internet.VolvoCom/NewsItem.aspx?News.ItemId=133552&News.Language=en-gb RE: Go North East - Latest - citaro5284 - 21 Jun 2014 (21 Jun 2014, 10:56 am)G-CPTN wrote But what happens when the B5TL replaces the B9TL, Shirley? But that is a while away yet, let GNE get the vehicles for this year's deliveries sorted as this will be their priority. RE: Go North East - Latest - Greg in Weardale - 21 Jun 2014 9131 is on 1158 11 to Blackhall Mill 12 min late RE: Go North East - Latest - L469 YVK - 21 Jun 2014 (21 Jun 2014, 10:56 am)G-CPTN wrote But what happens when the B5TL replaces the B9TL, Shirley? The Guardian readers will be praising Volvo's green thinking at the moment but they'd soon be annoyed if they were stuck in the Tyne Valley waiting for a replacement bus first thing on a cold December morning shouting out for Quality Contracts to come into force!! RE: Go North East - Latest - L469 YVK - 21 Jun 2014 (21 Jun 2014, 11:12 am)Greg in Weardale wrote 9131 is on 1158 11 to Blackhall Mill 12 min late I definitely don't think GNE will buy the B5TL. Lets hope with the exception of 6043 to 6048 that the B9TL's will last as long as the 1998 Palatine 2's did. RE: Go North East - Latest - Adam - 21 Jun 2014 (20 Jun 2014, 4:22 pm)NEBCD Malarkey wrote Was it you I was speaking to whilst taking photos at the Bottom of Eldon Square This Afternoon before 9131 it got took of Out of Service?, if so it was nice to meet you. No it wasn't me. I got off 9131 and went straight to Stand H for the X25 home. RE: Go North East - Latest - Andreos1 - 21 Jun 2014 (21 Jun 2014, 11:13 am)DaveyBowyer wrote The Guardian readers will be praising Volvo's green thinking at the moment but they'd soon be annoyed if they were stuck in the Tyne Valley waiting for a replacement bus first thing on a cold December morning shouting out for Quality Contracts to come into force!! I often read The Guardian and I am already shouting out in favour of QCS, but don't think the b5 engine is suitable. Where does that leave me? #DaveyBowyerRants #love'em #hashtagsonNEB RE: Go North East - Latest - L469 YVK - 21 Jun 2014 (21 Jun 2014, 1:10 pm)Andreos Constantopolous wrote I often read The Guardian and I am already shouting out in favour of QCS, but don't think the b5 engine is suitable. OK, firstly I didn't mean all Guardian readers. Whatever my political views are, I often read the Guardian when a certain paper keeps going on about the Kardashiansand despite what the Guardian thinks, I simply read it due to how informative it is. I even listen to Radio 2 and particularly Jeremy Vine whatever his views are due to how interesting it is. What I meant was the small minority of them. The small minority who constantly moan about all these Environmental issues and when people still do things about them, they're still not happy! And also, I'm 50/50 on Quality Contracts and also the better buses idea put together by the big three. EDIT by Dan: Fixed your post as you replied within the body of the quote. RE: Go North East - Latest - Adrian - 21 Jun 2014 (21 Jun 2014, 2:42 pm)DaveyBowyer wrote OK, firstly I didn't mean all Guardian readers. Whatever my political views are, I often read the Guardian when a certain paper keeps going on about the Kardashiansand despite what the Guardian thinks, I simply read it due to how informative it is. I even listen to Radio 2 and particularly Jeremy Vine whatever his views are due to how interesting it is. What I meant was the small minority of them. The small minority who constantly moan about all these Environmental issues and when people still do things about them, they're still not happy! And also, I'm 50/50 on Quality Contracts and also the better buses idea put together by the big three. I honestly think the issue is that no where else is like the LA7 area. Three cities in such close proximity of each other, with a hell of a lot of interurban services. The B5TL is ideal to drive slowly around the streets of central London or Greater Manchester, but it's never going to cut the mustard up here. I think Davey is right in wanting something better, but dismissing environmental concerns is the wrong way to go about it. I think it's going to be trial and error for the foreseeable. I'm keen to see the new Enviro400 in action and I feel it could be a contender given what has gone into it. Oh, and I also read the Guardian. RE: Go North East - Latest - L469 YVK - 21 Jun 2014 (21 Jun 2014, 3:06 pm)aureolin wrote I honestly think the issue is that no where else is like the LA7 area. Three cities in such close proximity of each other, with a hell of a lot of interurban services. The B5TL is ideal to drive slowly around the streets of central London or Greater Manchester, but it's never going to cut the mustard up here. I like the new E400 and for urban and suburban work, it's a canny bus but what them routes in the North East alone that I mentioned a few weeks back? RE: Go North East - Latest - G-CPTN - 21 Jun 2014 (21 Jun 2014, 3:06 pm)aureolin wrote The B5TL is ideal to drive slowly around the streets of central London or Greater Manchester, but it's never going to cut the mustard up here. What do they use in Sheffield? (are there no hills in London?) What about Muswell Hill? |