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RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2016 - Adrian - 26 Apr 2016 (26 Apr 2016, 12:28 pm)LeeCalder wrote There's obviously going to be an increase if they have merged four services I'm not sure how that would be the case? Would the figures they've compared not be against the previous four services combined? I reckon the direct link to Newcastle on the Q1/Q2 accounts for some of that growth, as passengers are no longer changing at Gateshead. RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2016 - Crusader - 26 Apr 2016 (26 Apr 2016, 5:56 pm)Adrian wrote I'm not sure how that would be the case? Would the figures they've compared not be against the previous four services combined? Indeed - if they are no longer changing at Gateshead then that means there would be a reduction in the number of passengers (as they would have boarded two buses now only one) - so to see a growth in passengers seems like it really is a growth and not just some spin of the figures RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2016 - PH - BQA - 26 Apr 2016 (26 Apr 2016, 5:48 pm)Davie wrote 5243-5247 are now Washington based and will be branded Whey Aye 50, for service's 5 & 50, 4978-4982 should be allocated to the 19. (26 Apr 2016, 5:48 pm)Dan wrote The correct allocation is Volvo B7RLE/Wright Eclipse vehicles - fleet numbers 4978 to 4982. These just carry Go North East's corporate livery. Cheers both, Regarding different vehicles, I think I'm completely wrong there. I thought I saw a corporate liveried Omnicity today, but it was only a glimpse af the rear, and I've now realised that the B7RLE's have full sized rear destinations. On the other occasions, it's more than likely been a B7RLE as well. (Early morning, not fully awake, so I've just jumped to 'B10' when I've seen the back end of red single deckers) RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2016 - Crusader - 26 Apr 2016 I haven't had the chance to see the Red Kite since it changed...does anyone have any views on how it is coping for capacity with the mixed single/double deck allocation? Does reliability seem to have improved? RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2016 - NK53 TKT - 26 Apr 2016 Can deckers go through the Tyne Tunnel? RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2016 - Davie - 26 Apr 2016 (26 Apr 2016, 6:14 pm)NK53 TKT wrote Can deckers go through the Tyne Tunnel? Yes. RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2016 - NK53 TKT - 26 Apr 2016 (26 Apr 2016, 6:15 pm)Davie wrote Yes. Is there a separate tunnel then just the main tunnel appears to have a 4m height limit and the smallest GNE decker (an olympian) is 4.33m RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2016 - Dan - 26 Apr 2016 (26 Apr 2016, 6:30 pm)NK53 TKT wrote Is there a separate tunnel then just the main tunnel appears to have a 4m height limit and the smallest GNE decker (an olympian) is 4.33m The inside lane has a 5.1m maximum headway - it's just the outside lane that has a 4.0m headway. Double deckers therefore have to use the inside lane (which service 9 usually does anyway). RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2016 - NK53 TKT - 26 Apr 2016 (26 Apr 2016, 6:33 pm)Dan wrote The inside lane has a 5.1m maximum headway - it's just the outside lane that has a 4.0m headway. Double deckers therefore have to use the inside lane (which service 9 usually does anyway). Ah thank you RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2016 - Andreos1 - 26 Apr 2016 (26 Apr 2016, 5:56 pm)Adrian wrote I'm not sure how that would be the case? Would the figures they've compared not be against the previous four services combined? Just random figures like. Then: 20 people travel to Gateshead on the 51. 5 people get on the Q1 at Gateshead. Now: 25 people on one service Then there may be that additional growth you mention. RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2016 - Jackamcardle - 26 Apr 2016 (26 Apr 2016, 6:07 pm)Crusader wrote I haven't had the chance to see the Red Kite since it changed...does anyone have any views on how it is coping for capacity with the mixed single/double deck allocation? Does reliability seem to have improved? Reliability seems to have marginally improved - but as I predicted the 47 gets full to the brim with passengers. I was on it the other night and we couldn't let a buggy on (or anyone else for that matter) because there were passengers standing from one end of the bus to the other. We weren't even at the Metro too... My Auntie also gets the 47 in the mornings and at peak times and she stands every single day on a streetlite, and she also said that in the morning a driver on the 47 went the wrong way at Swalwell Roundabout and went down to the rugby club instead, made her late for work. RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2016 - L469 YVK - 26 Apr 2016 Although the 47 might still get busy during the peak times, are the off peak journeys affected in any given way? Also, if GNE considered to fully convert the Red Kite to double decks, would the 45 / 46 justify the extra capacity? I don't think the Red Kite will ever go fully double deck. I'd have to look at the times again but I wonder if 6 vehicles would be enough to make sure that the majority if not, all 47 peak time runs in the according direction are double deck. The best option (and no order predictions please, will happily discuss on appropriate thread) if 6 was enough would be to use the current TTX B9s if they got replaced (and aren't in a worse state than the B7s that they replaced). Bearing in mind that due to the nature of the Red Kite, they'd need tip up seats added for pushchairs and bar the lack of NSAs (could be easily ammended), should need no other work done in terms of interiors or comfort. RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2016 - BusLoverMum - 26 Apr 2016 (26 Apr 2016, 9:45 pm)DaveyBowyer wrote Although the 47 might still get busy during the peak times, are the off peak journeys affected in any given way? I've caught the 45/46 in both directions at various points on a Saturday and it's always a well filled Streetdeck Streetlite(!), sometimes with standees. No idea about term time weekdays, though. RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2016 - Ambassador - 26 Apr 2016 (26 Apr 2016, 6:50 pm)Andreos1 wrote Just random figures like. Lies, damn lies and statistics... I only ever use Quaylink from Gateshead to Newcastle (the Sage detour annoys me) but it's a decent service despite many roadworks and traffic issues in Newcastle. It would be nice if GNE took on the Sightseeing Franchise, would be a nice link up with Quaylink, we might get better kit too! RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2016 - Rapidsnap - 27 Apr 2016 (26 Apr 2016, 10:09 pm)BusLoverMum wrote I've caught the 45/46 in both directions at various points on a Saturday and it's always a well filled Streetdeck, sometimes with standees. No idea about term time weekdays, though. You mean Volvo B9TL / Wright Eclipse Gemini 2 RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2016 - Dans_bus_photos - 27 Apr 2016 4955 is now red RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2016 - Ryan99 - 27 Apr 2016 (27 Apr 2016, 9:46 am)Dans_bus_photos wrote 4955 is now red Is that the ex prince bishop or do you mean 4954 RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2016 - Davie - 27 Apr 2016 6002 is now branded (27 Apr 2016, 10:52 am)Ryan99 wrote Is that the ex prince bishop or do you mean 4954The ex Fast Cats, from what I've been told. RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2016 - grandad - 27 Apr 2016 The 45/46/47 have always been busy during morning and evening peaks particularly between Rowlands Gill and Eldon Sq. Out of these times loads tend to be about 50%. Not sure if a full decker allocation could be justified at present. RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2016 - L469 YVK - 27 Apr 2016 And to add to the earlier post, 6118 - 6121 could just go to Chester for the Angel (2x branded + 2 spare). They'd only need NSAs fitted. RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2016 - Dans_bus_photos - 27 Apr 2016 (27 Apr 2016, 10:52 am)Ryan99 wrote Is that the ex prince bishop or do you mean 4954 No otherwise id have said that it was 4954. Its 4955-NA02NVL ex- fast cats Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2016 - TEN 6083 - 27 Apr 2016 Saw a couple of Streetlites on the way to Newcastle this morning on the 47 going both ways near the MetroCentre and they both looked quite busy this was at about half 9 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2016 - BusLoverMum - 27 Apr 2016 (27 Apr 2016, 12:35 am)GMitchelhill wrote You mean Volvo B9TL / Wright Eclipse Gemini 2 Doh! I meant streetlite, actually RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2016 - JP6004 - 28 Apr 2016 May aswell ask before Michael does has anymore streetlites arrived? RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2016 - Michael - 28 Apr 2016 The Cobalt Connect tab has been removed from the Go North East site. RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2016 - Dan - 28 Apr 2016 (28 Apr 2016, 12:24 pm)JP6004 wrote May aswell ask before Michael does has anymore streetlites arrived? No, but 5421 - 5423 are all at Heysham Docks awaiting delivery. Came over from Ireland on Tuesday night. RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2016 - Michael - 28 Apr 2016 (28 Apr 2016, 12:24 pm)JP6004 wrote May aswell ask before Michael does has anymore streetlites arrived? Cheeky! RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2016 - citaro5284 - 28 Apr 2016 (28 Apr 2016, 12:24 pm)JP6004 wrote May aswell ask before Michael does has anymore streetlites arrived? (28 Apr 2016, 3:47 pm)Michael wrote Cheeky! But true RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2016 - JP6004 - 28 Apr 2016 RUMOUR ALERT: Apparently the 11 is being withdrawn from June??? RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2016 - citaro5284 - 28 Apr 2016 (28 Apr 2016, 6:09 pm)JP6004 wrote RUMOUR ALERT: Apparently the 11 is being withdrawn from June??? Never seen anything on VOSA. If withdrawn from June, it should have been on VOSA by now I would have thought. |