(14 Feb 2014, 6:46 pm)Wellsey18 wrote Still yet to see 4912 or 4913 out yet, anyone had sightings?

(14 Feb 2014, 6:50 pm)Dan wrote 4913 was on the Cobalt Clipper today.

(14 Feb 2014, 7:37 pm)R838PRG wrote Go north east running service 901 for metro tomorrow. Fair few buses involved by looks of it.

(14 Feb 2014, 7:41 pm)Dan wrote Think it's 12 buses from GNE for the green line.
Not sure about ANE.

(14 Feb 2014, 8:05 pm)CatsFast101 wrote Do nexus set the fares for metro replacements?

(14 Feb 2014, 6:46 pm)Wellsey18 wrote Still yet to see 4912 or 4913 out yet, anyone had sightings?

(14 Feb 2014, 8:12 pm)aureolin wrote I got 4912 today. It was the 0917 service 9 from North Shields to Sunderland. It was joined by 4911, a Centurion B10, and an ex-London President.

(14 Feb 2014, 6:46 pm)Wellsey18 wrote Still yet to see 4912 or 4913 out yet, anyone had sightings?

(14 Feb 2014, 8:27 pm)park5354 wrote 3974 parked in Riverside depot this afternoon.

(14 Feb 2014, 8:30 pm)speedwheels22 wrote Gne must love trying a bit of odd workings putting branded buses on diffrent routes

(14 Feb 2014, 8:35 pm)Dan wrote It's far from loved... It's the opposite of what higher management want, and there are now schemes being introduced to prevent as many branded vehicles appearing on routes which they should not be allocated to.

(14 Feb 2014, 8:41 pm)CatsFast101 wrote I think some of the time is just a lack of interest by depots, how many odd allocations since riverside opened? Percy Main are a nightmare and Deptford have their fair share of odd workings.

(14 Feb 2014, 8:35 pm)Dan wrote It's far from loved... It's the opposite of what higher management want, and there are now schemes being introduced to prevent as many branded vehicles appearing on routes which they should not be allocated to.

(14 Feb 2014, 8:43 pm)Tom wrote From a passengers point of view, they don't care what colour it is, they just want the bus to turn up

(14 Feb 2014, 8:44 pm)Dan wrote Tell that to Go North East.

Clearly their business model is wrong...

(14 Feb 2014, 8:47 pm)Tom wrote I didn't say that, but if a bus is off-route passengers generally won't care.

(14 Feb 2014, 8:50 pm)Liam wrote I'm sure passengers will care if a single decker is turning up, opposed to a double decker...

(14 Feb 2014, 8:43 pm)Dan wrote Which is why higher management are in the process of rolling out new schemes to combat odd workings.

(14 Feb 2014, 8:30 pm)speedwheels22 wrote Gne must love trying a bit of odd workings putting branded buses on diffrent routes

(14 Feb 2014, 9:10 pm)CatsFast101 wrote Which is why I supporting their decision to do so by providing some general examples.

Well there's a certain excuse of passengers not caring, I don't think the majority give too much interest etc. but passengers do come to identify services by the colour of the bus. Durham bus station can get busy, it's often chaotic and it's sometimes you end up not really seeing what buses are coming a recent example i can usually my Prince Bishops solar coming in however other week it was a Fab56 solar. A lot were confused and didn't go to board, until I had said is that the 20 when people were like 'oh yeah' and got on.
Everyone likes to say there's no meaning to fab56/fab57 but these are two most recognised brands. I'd thinks people prefer branded buses but ultimately it's comes down to a bus is better than no bus. And I do think brand recognition is something that should be taken seriously.

(14 Feb 2014, 9:17 pm)Dan wrote In your anecdote, you gave the example of Durham Bus Station.

Now imagine you're on a cold, dark road - served by a number of Go North East buses, but has an infrequent service on evenings...

You're used to seeing pink buses turning up, but on this freezing cold night, you see a yellow bus approaching. The destination blind is illegible as you're visually impaired.
As you're used to seeing pink buses, you let the yellow one go straight past.

As a passenger, you would care. You've now got to wait 30 minutes before the next bus turns up; in this instance, the wrong coloured bus was not better than no bus turning up at all.

It happens, and this is why branding is vital. Ultimately, passengers do care - GNE's business model is right. It just needs to be applied by depots.

(14 Feb 2014, 9:17 pm)Dan wrote In your anecdote, you gave the example of Durham Bus Station.

Now imagine you're on a cold, dark road - served by a number of Go North East buses, but has an infrequent service on evenings...

You're used to seeing pink buses turning up, but on this freezing cold night, you see a yellow bus approaching. The destination blind is illegible as you're visually impaired.
As you're used to seeing pink buses, you let the yellow one go straight past.

As a passenger, you would care. You've now got to wait 30 minutes before the next bus turns up; in this instance, the wrong coloured bus was not better than no bus turning up at all.

It happens, and this is why branding is vital. Ultimately, passengers do care - GNE's business model is right. It just needs to be applied by depots.

(14 Feb 2014, 9:24 pm)Tom wrote What I was saying is that passengers would rather have a bus turn up than none at all - And some good points there.

(14 Feb 2014, 11:38 pm)NEBCD Malarkey wrote As has been speculated quite a lot recently is the early withdrawal of the 52reg Cadets, Thing is we have never really had a Reason other than Reliability - But I have just been having a Look on Flickr and I came across this photo of 8248...Below, Outside Washington Depot, with the issue being with the Electrics. So with that been said, is this the main reason as to why they are to be Withdrawn come the end of 2014 after Further Investment, and is this Problem common with other Cadets in the GNE Fleet

Photo By Flickr User: DiagTest Ltd
http://www.flickr.com/photos/110217213@N07/12528204265/