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RE: Go North East Service Suggestions - Malarkey - 05 Jan 2014
(04 Jan 2014, 12:51 pm)fozzovmurton wrote Step Forward Mr Malarkey, sure you will have an opinion on this my friend
Perhaps instead of it Running straight down the Motorway to Washington Galleries from Waterview Park like the 8 Does, Maybe have it go via Barmston - Washington Village and Glebe to Washington Galleries (Old 185/X85 Route), To make up a bit of time I would have it Run Limited Stopping between Washington Galleries and Gateshead. Other than that little thought, It sounds good to me.
RE: Go North East Service Suggestions - Michael - 05 Jan 2014
Only change i would make is renumbering the X7 to X6, would they run hourly or just 2/3 runs a day?
RE: Go North East Service Suggestions - Malarkey - 06 Jan 2014
(05 Jan 2014, 11:17 pm)ADLEnviro wrote Good idea Adam but I wanted to keep the PVR and end timings the same.
That's makes sense, But I think running it via Barmston etc is doable, Time to dig out the Collection of Timetables I think............Hunting 56/X1 Timetables.............Found them, Right here we go.
- It takes the X1 from Springwell to Gateshead - 13 Minutes and It takes the 56 from Springwell to Gateshead - 21 Minutes - 8 minutes Difference
- The 56 has a 6 Minute Layover Period in Newcastle Currently
- The 56 has a 8 Minute Layover Period in Sunderland Currently
- And going by your Timings ADLEnviro, The 56 which would go via Washington is 10 Minutes Quicker than the Current 56
So with those Points in mind and a bit of Maths, I would say you would have 32 Minutes to Play with on re-jiggling the Timetable of the 56, Feel free to correct if i'm wrong, so that would mean on the 56 via Washington you may have enough time to run it via Barmston etc to Washington and still be able to Maintain the Current PVR.
RE: Go North East Service Suggestions - Tom - 06 Jan 2014
(05 Jan 2014, 11:25 pm)Michael wrote Only change i would make is renumbering the X7 to X6, would they run hourly or just 2/3 runs a day?
Probably hourly. It'd be welcomed well I think, as the service by Arriva is very bad, last time I went to Alnwick the X18 was 90 mins late :O
RE: Go North East Service Suggestions - legend - 06 Jan 2014
(05 Jan 2014, 10:04 pm)Adam Malarkey wrote Perhaps instead of it Running straight down the Motorway to Washington Galleries from Waterview Park like the 8 Does, Maybe have it go via Barmston - Washington Village and Glebe to Washington Galleries (Old 185/X85 Route), To make up a bit of time I would have it Run Limited Stopping between Washington Galleries and Gateshead. Other than that little thought, It sounds good to me.
Is this supposed to be like an express? If so, running through Wrekenton, between 07:00 and 09:00 and between 15:00 and 17:00 have it stop additionally outside of Cardinal Hume Catholic School to ease congestion on the standard service which has to take monstrous school loadings!!
In fact, it could even come into the school coach park to make it an exclusive service for the school...
RE: Go North East Service Suggestions - Adam - 06 Jan 2014
(06 Jan 2014, 8:23 pm)legend wrote Is this supposed to be like an express? If so, running through Wrekenton, between 07:00 and 09:00 and between 15:00 and 17:00 have it stop additionally outside of Cardinal Hume Catholic School to ease congestion on the standard service which has to take monstrous school loadings!!
In fact, it could even come into the school coach park to make it an exclusive service for the school...
Love that idea
RE: Go North East Service Suggestions - Malarkey - 06 Jan 2014
(06 Jan 2014, 8:23 pm)legend wrote Is this supposed to be like an express? If so, running through Wrekenton, between 07:00 and 09:00 and between 15:00 and 17:00 have it stop additionally outside of Cardinal Hume Catholic School to ease congestion on the standard service which has to take monstrous school loadings!!
In fact, it could even come into the school coach park to make it an exclusive service for the school...
You'd be better off asking ADLEnviro as it was his Suggestion, I just added a bit input to the Idea to see what he thought.
As for the bit about Cardinal Hume and the 56 entering the School Coach Park, would it not then make the Service run even further behind Schedule heading towards Sunderland/Newcastle or are you Suggesting a New Scholar Service to cope with the Excessive Loadings at those times with lead to an Independent Operator running the Service. Just out Curiosity what are the Current Scholar Services from Cardinal Hume, who are they Operated by and what is there Route.
RE: Go North East Service Suggestions - Adam - 06 Jan 2014
(06 Jan 2014, 9:35 pm)Adam Malarkey wrote You'd be better off asking ADLEnviro as it was his Suggestion, I just added a bit input to the Idea to see what he thought.
As for the bit about Cardinal Hume and the 56 entering the School Coach Park, would it not then make the Service run even further behind Schedule heading towards Sunderland/Newcastle or are you Suggesting a New Scholar Service to cope with the Excessive Loadings at those times with lead to an Independent Operator running the Service. Just out Curiosity what are the Current Scholar Services from Cardinal Hume, who are they Operated by and what is there Route.
There are 4 scholars services from CHCS. They are as follows:
878: Wardley - Fewster Square - CHCS. Morning journeys are operated by Arriva. Afternoon journeys are operated by Go North East on Mon-Thu and Kingsley's on Fridays.
879 (Mornings only): Festival Park - Saltwell Road - Shipcote - Carr Hill Road - Split Crow Road - Felling Square - Windy Nook - CHCS. Operated by GNE.
880 (Afternoons only): CHCS - Windy Nook - Carr Hill Road - Split Crow Road - Felling Square. Operated by A-Line.
882: Portobello - Barley Mow - Birtley - Low Fell - Kells Lane - CHCS. All morning journeys are operated by Weardale. They too operate the Mon-Thu afternoon journeys, but GNE do the Fri afternoon journey.
RE: Go North East Service Suggestions - Andreos1 - 06 Jan 2014
(06 Jan 2014, 9:55 pm)Adam wrote There are 4 scholars services from CHCS. They are as follows:
878: Wardley - Fewster Square - CHCS. Morning journeys are operated by Arriva. Afternoon journeys are operated by Go North East on Mon-Thu and Kingsley's on Fridays.
879 (Mornings only): Festival Park - Saltwell Road - Shipcote - Carr Hill Road - Split Crow Road - Felling Square - Windy Nook - CHCS. Operated by GNE.
880 (Afternoons only): CHCS - Windy Nook - Carr Hill Road - Split Crow Road - Felling Square. Operated by A-Line.
882: Portobello - Barley Mow - Birtley - Low Fell - Kells Lane - CHCS. All morning journeys are operated by Weardale. They too operate the Mon-Thu afternoon journeys, but GNE do the Fri afternoon journey.
There's a little minibus too apparently.
Some of my eldests friends get it to/from Birtley/Ouston.
No idea who runs it though.
RE: Go North East Service Suggestions - Adam - 06 Jan 2014
(06 Jan 2014, 10:01 pm)andreos1 wrote There's a little minibus too apparently.
Some of my eldests friends get it to/from Birtley/Ouston.
No idea who runs it though.
Never knew there was a minibus service too. I often see the school's plain white Transit van or our brand new silver Peugeot Boxer with CHCS vinyls out in the morning. Could it be that I wonder?
RE: Go North East Service Suggestions - Andreos1 - 06 Jan 2014
(06 Jan 2014, 10:08 pm)Adam wrote Never knew there was a minibus service too. I often see the school's plain white Transit van or our brand new silver Peugeot Boxer with CHCS vinyls out in the morning. Could it be that I wonder?
No idea.
Will see if I can find out.
Dunno why they don't just get the 28... Actually yeah, the minibus is a good idea!
It was just the other day he was on about his mates getting picked up/dropped off in it and the class sh!t (there's always one) being a pain in the arse with some of the other kids.
RE: Go North East Service Suggestions - Malarkey - 06 Jan 2014
(06 Jan 2014, 9:55 pm)Adam wrote There are 4 scholars services from CHCS. They are as follows:
878: Wardley - Fewster Square - CHCS. Morning journeys are operated by Arriva. Afternoon journeys are operated by Go North East on Mon-Thu and Kingsley's on Fridays.
879 (Mornings only): Festival Park - Saltwell Road - Shipcote - Carr Hill Road - Split Crow Road - Felling Square - Windy Nook - CHCS. Operated by GNE.
880 (Afternoons only): CHCS - Windy Nook - Carr Hill Road - Split Crow Road - Felling Square. Operated by A-Line.
882: Portobello - Barley Mow - Birtley - Low Fell - Kells Lane - CHCS. All morning journeys are operated by Weardale. They too operate the Mon-Thu afternoon journeys, but GNE do the Fri afternoon journey.
Thanks Adam, Bare with me I shall come up with a few New Scholars Services which probs do while I watch the Wrestling from 1am to 4am, So i'll have them up at some point Tomorrow, I do think there could be more Services from CHCS to the Wider Area, i.e. Gateshead/Heworth/Concord and Washington Galleries, As I would think the Majority come from around those Areas and get a Connecting Service from there, I do know quite few CHCS Students do tend get on the X1 to Washington Galleries at Wrekenton at around 15:20pm as I often get on it when I'm out and about and back heading home.
RE: Go North East Service Suggestions - Adam - 06 Jan 2014
(06 Jan 2014, 10:12 pm)andreos1 wrote No idea.
Will see if I can find out.
Dunno why they don't just get the 28... Actually yeah, the minibus is a good idea!
It was just the other day he was on about his mates getting picked up/dropped off in it and the class sh!t (there's always one) being a pain in the arse with some of the other kids.
Totally agree with you haha.
My Business teacher lives in Pelton Fell and he said he sometimes gets the 28 to school, so I can't really see a problem why they can't get the bus as well, unless they're desperately trying to avoid him for some reason
(06 Jan 2014, 10:14 pm)Adam Malarkey wrote Thanks Adam, Bare with me I shall come up with a few New Scholars Services which probs do while I watch the Wrestling from 1am to 4am, So i'll have them up at some point Tomorrow, I do think there could be more Services from CHCS to the Wider Area, i.e. Gateshead/Heworth/Concord and Washington Galleries, As I would think the Majority come from around those Areas and get a Connecting Service from there, I do know quite few CHCS Students do tend get on the X1 to Washington Galleries at Wrekenton at around 15:20pm as I often get on it when I'm out and about and back heading home.
No problem Adam. I agree with you about a new scholars service being needed. The main service I would suggest is a one which goes from CH straight down Old Durham Road to Gateshead Interchange to take pressure off the 56. After school, the 56 always has a queue of at least 30-40 students at the bus stop. Its a wonder how everyone crammed on the Solars! Even though the 56 has just been upgraded, their capacity would still be tested.
RE: Go North East Service Suggestions - legend - 06 Jan 2014
(06 Jan 2014, 9:55 pm)Adam wrote There are 4 scholars services from CHCS. They are as follows:
878: Wardley - Fewster Square - CHCS. Morning journeys are operated by Arriva. Afternoon journeys are operated by Go North East on Mon-Thu and Kingsley's on Fridays.
879 (Mornings only): Festival Park - Saltwell Road - Shipcote - Carr Hill Road - Split Crow Road - Felling Square - Windy Nook - CHCS. Operated by GNE.
880 (Afternoons only): CHCS - Windy Nook - Carr Hill Road - Split Crow Road - Felling Square. Operated by A-Line.
882: Portobello - Barley Mow - Birtley - Low Fell - Kells Lane - CHCS. All morning journeys are operated by Weardale. They too operate the Mon-Thu afternoon journeys, but GNE do the Fri afternoon journey.
FYI:
878 Arriva Late
878 Go North East Late
878 Kingsley's Late beyond belief, operates another school first
879 Go North East Often a SPD - too small
880 A-Line too small
882 Weardale Always Weardale operated. Plaxton President but still under capacity, requests made for increase in capacity - response: 56
RE: Go North East Service Suggestions - legend - 06 Jan 2014
(06 Jan 2014, 10:01 pm)andreos1 wrote There's a little minibus too apparently.
Some of my eldests friends get it to/from Birtley/Ouston.
No idea who runs it though.
It's our own bus, we have a Ford Transit and a Fiat Something.
A handful of staff are qualified to drive both but more can drive the Fiat as it has a smaller capacity. The caretaker normally drives the Ouston runs.
RE: Go North East Service Suggestions - legend - 06 Jan 2014
(06 Jan 2014, 10:08 pm)Adam wrote Never knew there was a minibus service too. I often see the school's plain white Transit van or our brand new silver Peugeot Boxer with CHCS vinyls out in the morning. Could it be that I wonder?
It is. But it's a Fiat, not a Peugeot.
RE: Go North East Service Suggestions - Adam - 06 Jan 2014
(06 Jan 2014, 10:38 pm)legend wrote FYI:
878 Arriva Late
878 Go North East Late
878 Kingsley's Late beyond belief, operates another school first
879 Go North East Often a SPD - too small
880 A-Line too small
882 Weardale Always Weardale operated. Plaxton President but still under capacity, requests made for increase in capacity - response: 56
yeah I know haha. The amount of complaints I get from friends about the 882 is ridiculous. I've already mentioned it in the last 2 school council meetings and it seems senior management don't listen.
It is a Peugeot. I've been on it. Looks very much like a Fiat but it is definitely a Peugeot.
RE: Go North East Service Suggestions - legend - 06 Jan 2014
(06 Jan 2014, 10:12 pm)andreos1 wrote No idea.
Will see if I can find out.
Dunno why they don't just get the 28... Actually yeah, the minibus is a good idea!
It was just the other day he was on about his mates getting picked up/dropped off in it and the class sh!t (there's always one) being a pain in the arse with some of the other kids.
The twenty eight does not stop outside of the school. You gave to walk to the QE or the Seven Stars for that service.
Our behavioural and discipline standards are very high. If the student informs his or her tutor the problem will be dealt with.
RE: Go North East Service Suggestions - Andreos1 - 06 Jan 2014
(06 Jan 2014, 10:43 pm)legend wrote The twenty eight does not stop outside of the school. You gave to walk to the QE or the Seven Stars for that service.
Our behavioural and discipline standards are very high. If the student informs his or her tutor the problem will be dealt with.
The kid has a reputation and has done for years.
The kid in question has had one or two run ins with my eldest before they went their separate ways in year 7.
Unfortunately, not all of the kids were that lucky and those who ended up at that school, are stuck with him.
Their tolerance levels were tested for years at Primary school. If it hasn't been reported already, I imagine it will be reported soon.
The stops on the 28 probably explain the need for the minibus.
RE: Go North East Service Suggestions - legend - 06 Jan 2014
(06 Jan 2014, 10:50 pm)andreos1 wrote The kid has a reputation and has done for years.
The kid in question has had one or two run ins with my eldest before they went their separate ways in year 7.
Unfortunately, not all of the kids were that lucky and those who ended up at that school, are stuck with him.
Their tolerance levels were tested for years at Primary school. If it hasn't been reported already, I imagine it will be reported soon.
The stops on the 28 probably explain the need for the minibus.
I'm afraid being in my senior years I doubt I know the students in question and whom we certainly shan't be naming.
Actually we use the minibus for two reasons.
- The timings of the 28
- The location of Ouston, outside of Tyne & Wear. They would have to use a 'Key' card.
RE: Go North East Service Suggestions - Andreos1 - 06 Jan 2014
(06 Jan 2014, 10:54 pm)legend wrote I'm afraid being in my senior years I doubt I know the students in question and whom we certainly shan't be naming.
Actually we use the minibus for two reasons.
- The timings of the 28
- The location of Ouston, outside of Tyne & Wear. They would have to use a 'Key' card.
You certainly won't hear his name from me.
Not the time or place. Quite surprised you mentioned the other bits.
Anyway...
That makes sense.
Was trying to work out the timings from Ouston (on the hour and half past) and couldn't remember which was which (28/28a).
Wasn't aware of the bus stop issues either.
I take it Adam was correct when he said it was a school minibus which works it?
Saves me asking in the morning!
Whilst the kids (and parents) are obviously appreciative of the school going above and beyond, by organising their transport - the fact the price of the key tickets, was one of the factors in doing so, is quite an eyeopener!
RE: Go North East Service Suggestions - speedwheels22 - 06 Jan 2014
Is the 29A doing the full route to heworth don't know why it can't be the 26 make it a full route
RE: Go North East Service Suggestions - Michael - 06 Jan 2014
(06 Jan 2014, 11:14 pm)speedwheels22 wrote Is the 29A doing the full route to heworth don't know why it can't be the 26 make it a full route
Not sure yet, timetables still not online, should be in the next few days though, think they changed the 26/26A to 29/29A because of the 39... so it would be the 29 and 39 to doxford park.
I would imagine it would do the full route - half hourly so it would be every 15 mins from park lane to doxford park, maybe interwork at doxford park
RE: Go North East Service Suggestions - speedwheels22 - 06 Jan 2014
Be great if they brung the black cats brand back but update it I think.The 29,29A 39 should be in the same brand if the 29 gets one
RE: Go North East Service Suggestions - Kuyoyo - 06 Jan 2014
(06 Jan 2014, 11:26 pm)speedwheels22 wrote Be great if they brung the black cats brand back but update it I think.The 29,29A 39 should be in the same brand if the 29 gets one
29 isn't going to be branded. 39 will be Simplicity as, I guess, will the 29A on evenings and Sundays.
RE: Go North East Service Suggestions - speedwheels22 - 06 Jan 2014
Will the 9 be branded and what buses will they use
RE: Go North East Service Suggestions - Michael - 06 Jan 2014
(06 Jan 2014, 11:28 pm)Kuyoyo wrote 29 isn't going to be branded. 39 will be Simplicity as, I guess, will the 29A on evenings and Sundays.
Ye the 29A is just doing the same route and times as the 26A - expecting it to be versa's.
29 Northern scanias
39 Simplicity versa
X36 Fast cats (using 5205-5209)
RE: Go North East Service Suggestions - Michael - 06 Jan 2014
(06 Jan 2014, 11:30 pm)speedwheels22 wrote Will the 9 be branded and what buses will they use
Just Northern, not sure what buses they will use, dont think its being confirmed what they will use
RE: Go North East Service Suggestions - Acky81 - 06 Jan 2014
(06 Jan 2014, 11:19 pm)Michael wrote Not sure yet, timetables still not online, should be in the next few days though, think they changed the 26/26A to 29/29A because of the 39... so it would be the 29 and 39 to doxford park.But like I keep saying on here Michael seems pointless 29A running full route as this would duplicate stagecoach 39 on evenings to Doxford park
I would imagine it would do the full route - half hourly so it would be every 15 mins from park lane to doxford park, maybe interwork at doxford park
RE: Go North East Service Suggestions - Acky81 - 06 Jan 2014
(06 Jan 2014, 11:44 pm)Acky81 wrote But like I keep saying on here Michael seems pointless 29A running full route as this would duplicate stagecoach 39 on evenings to Doxford parkI suppose we will find out on timetable release