(05 Aug 2020, 7:38 pm)tyresmoke wrote The 81 goes round the village I believe, which probably more than covers the requirement from Redcar.

(11 Aug 2020, 1:34 pm)Ryland wrote Suggestions for Whitby
94 sleights via Whitby estate
95 leaholm via grosmont
96 park and ride via west cliff to Sainsburys via the town
X93 to continue to stand alone Middlesbrough via guisborough and Scarborough
New x2 service direct service from Whitby to redcar
X4 to continue as it is.

(11 Aug 2020, 3:15 pm)tyresmoke wrote And how are you going to make the extra 8 or 9 buses required for this pay?

• Reduced to every 30 minutes and Tynemouth to Newcastle only.
  
• Will no longer serve Battle Hill Drive.
  
• Journeys to Tynemouth operate via Christ Church in North Shields. Journeys towards Newcastle unchanged.
  
• Journeys will terminate near Hotspur Street in Tynemouth before following the current evening route towards Newcastle via Percy Park Road.
  

• Every 30 minutes.
  
• Same route as service 306 between Whitley Bay and Preston Grange Morrisons via Marden Estate. Then via Beach Road to Billy Mill then same route as 306/308 to Newcastle.
  

• Reduced to every 30 minutes and Whitley Bay Town Centre to Newcastle only.
  
• Section of route between Blyth and Whitley Bay Town Centre replaced by service X38.
  

• Every 30 minutes.
  
• Same route & stopping arrangements as service 308 in current form between Blyth and Billy Mill.
  
• Limited stop between Billy Mill and Newcastle only calling at Norham Road and Willington Square.
  

(19 Sep 2020, 8:34 am)V514DFT wrote So no Arriva service for Battle Hill is what your trying to to propose?

(19 Sep 2020, 8:26 am)L469 YVK wrote Below doesn't take into account evenings & Sundays but will have a think. All journeys double deck operated.

PVR 306/307/308 = 10x
PVR X38 = 4x (or interworking with another Blyth 'X' service)

Service 306:

• Reduced to every 30 minutes and Tynemouth to Newcastle only.
  
• Will no longer serve Battle Hill Drive.
  
• Journeys to Tynemouth operate via Christ Church in North Shields. Journeys towards Newcastle unchanged.
  
• Journeys will terminate near Hotspur Street in Tynemouth before following the current evening route towards Newcastle via Percy Park Road.
  

NEW Service 307:

• Every 30 minutes.
  
• Same route as service 306 between Whitley Bay and Preston Grange Morrisons via Marden Estate. Then via Beach Road to Billy Mill then same route as 306/308 to Newcastle.
  

Service 308:

• Reduced to every 30 minutes and Whitley Bay Town Centre to Newcastle only.
  
• Section of route between Blyth and Whitley Bay Town Centre replaced by service X38.
  

NEW Service X38:

• Every 30 minutes.
  
• Same route & stopping arrangements as service 308 in current form between Blyth and Billy Mill.
  
• Limited stop between Billy Mill and Newcastle only calling at Norham Road and Willington Square.
  

(19 Sep 2020, 10:01 pm)ASX_Terranova wrote New Service 56 (Newcastle): Haymarket - South Gosforth - Four Lane Ends - Benton ASDA - Northumberland Park - Backworth - Seghill
Return of old 723 as X13

(20 Sep 2020, 11:00 am)ASX_Terranova wrote New Service 50 Circular: Newcastle Haymarket, Newcastle Airport, Ponteland, Berwick Hill, Horton Grange, Stannington, Cramlington, High Pit, Southfield, Regent Centre, Newcastle Haymarket
New Service 50A Circular: Reverse of 50

New Service 6/6A: Cramlington, High Pit, Annitsford, Seghill, Backworth, Northumberland Park, Cobalt, Hadrian Park(6), Howdon (6), Wallsend (6), High Flatworth (6A), Percy Main (6A), North Shields (6A)

Revised Service X6: Cramlington, High Pit, Annitsford, Seghill, Backworth, Northumberland Park, Cobalt, NON STOP,  Newcastle Haymarket

(21 Sep 2020, 5:55 pm)solsburian wrote I miss the days of the X36!

A direct link between Seaton Delaval/Seghill and Killingworth would be nice to have too.

(21 Sep 2020, 6:45 pm)Storx wrote https://www.flickr.com/photos/stagecoachuk/19803304020/ - Only when that didn't happen

(21 Sep 2020, 9:26 pm)V514DFT wrote Dont really use Arriva much,but what about this,im expecting to get slated
42-Haymarket,Town Moor,Gosforth High Street,Regent Centre,Wideopen,Dudley Lane/Green Lane,Annitsford,Seghill,Seaton Deleval,High Pit/Village Road,Manor Walks, possibly interwork with either the 43,52 or 53
51,slight reshuffle,from Holystone serves Northumberland Park,then West Allotment,then continues service as is currently
53,from North Shields extends (hourly) to Whitley Bay via Preston Road North,Preston Grange Morrisons,Preston Grange,Malvern Road,Devon Road,N.T.G.H,Whitley Bay Ice Rink,Whitley Bay, also to additionally serve Northumberland Park
54,to additionally serve Northumberland Park

(22 Sep 2020, 10:01 am)Storx wrote I'm from Delaval and tbh don't really see the point in the 42, I'd never use it tbh and can't imagine many others would either. We have the 19/57/57A to Cramlington, 57A to Annitsford and never really had the need to go to Gosforth or the Regent Centre and the Bus/Metro route wouldn't be much longer.

If your interested for here the places that people want are the most in order of most moaned about: (All the villages are Seaton Delaval, Holywell, Seghill and New Hartley)
All The Villages -> North Tyneside Hospital
Holywell -> Newcastle
Seghill -> Northumbria Hospital
New Hartley -> Whitley / North Shields
Seghill -> Metro (not going backwards 15 minutes - (Not X7 diverted))
All The Villages -> Killingworth (But not the X7 diverted)

For your 53 extension I'd extend the 57A instead and you've fixed the biggest moan around here (or do the old 810/811 route and go up to Hospital roundabout and turn back then continue to Morrisons). Arriva used to serve Northumberland Park but then pulled them all pretty much at the same time and it's not far to walk from Sainsburys where the 53 and 54 serve, guessing that's the reason why it's not a very good designed bus stop really and would be better if the bridge was opened up but there's plans to pedestrianise it and remove the 2 concrete walls in the future with the B&T Railway.

(22 Sep 2020, 10:01 am)Storx wrote I'm from Delaval and tbh don't really see the point in the 42, I'd never use it tbh and can't imagine many others would either. We have the 19/57/57A to Cramlington, 57A to Annitsford and never really had the need to go to Gosforth or the Regent Centre and the Bus/Metro route wouldn't be much longer.

If your interested for here the places that people want are the most in order of most moaned about: (All the villages are Seaton Delaval, Holywell, Seghill and New Hartley)
All The Villages -> North Tyneside Hospital
Holywell -> Newcastle
Seghill -> Northumbria Hospital
New Hartley -> Whitley / North Shields
Seghill -> Metro (not going backwards 15 minutes - (Not X7 diverted))
All The Villages -> Killingworth (But not the X7 diverted)

For your 53 extension I'd extend the 57A instead and you've fixed the biggest moan around here (or do the old 810/811 route and go up to Hospital roundabout and turn back then continue to Morrisons). Arriva used to serve Northumberland Park but then pulled them all pretty much at the same time and it's not far to walk from Sainsburys where the 53 and 54 serve, guessing that's the reason why it's not a very good designed bus stop really and would be better if the bridge was opened up but there's plans to pedestrianise it and remove the 2 concrete walls in the future with the B&T Railway.

(22 Sep 2020, 4:38 pm)ASX_Terranova wrote Would there be any demand to send a service to Wallsend, if you found a way to incorporate other peoples ideas as well

(22 Sep 2020, 1:24 pm)solsburian wrote A few years back, and with my councillor hat on, I did discuss the feasibility along with the local county councillor about direct services to between Seaton Valley and Killingworth with one of the transport officers at NCC. While he agreed there would likely be some demand, he was wary of the potential impact it would have on the 57/57a as it would likely abstract away shoppers going to Cramlington to Killingworth instead. A potential example of the Butterfly effect I guess.

(22 Sep 2020, 4:38 pm)ASX_Terranova wrote Would there be any demand to send a service to Wallsend, if you found a way to incorporate other peoples ideas as well

(22 Sep 2020, 5:56 pm)Storx wrote Yeah it's probably a valid point though tbf, it'll be mostly pensioners using it and they're pretty much the ones using it to Cramlington most the time really.

(22 Sep 2020, 7:04 pm)ASX_Terranova wrote Extend 553 to Blyth. I'll leave the route up the arriva regulars.

(22 Sep 2020, 5:56 pm)Storx wrote Yeah it's probably a valid point though tbf, it'll be mostly pensioners using it and they're pretty much the ones using it to Cramlington most the time really.


Where from Seaton Valley? If so, not really tbh. Nothing at Wallsend for us really, the locals are more likely to choose Cramlington, Whitley Bay, Blyth, Monkseaton Sainsbury's or Newcastle which would be closer and have more there (no offence to Wallsend) and we have the 57 to the Metro then Metro from there which would be likely as quick anyway. NT Hospital is the big one though from pensioners and taking the 363/X4/X7 off Tillmouth Avenue.

(22 Sep 2020, 10:37 pm)ASX_Terranova wrote Could the 316/318 routes be feasable with modifactions (to NT Hospital, Whitley, etc...) Anybody use them at the time?

(23 Sep 2020, 6:47 am)Storx wrote I can't see them being too popular from Delaval's perspective as we have the 19 or X7 which are both quicker the only really new link is Newsham you might pick up a few from Seghill wanting to go to the Metro though. 

The 318 is very similar to the 19 aswell which is heavily subsidised North of Northumberland Park so it probably gives an idea of the numbers. 

The 2 routes route here if you want something to play around with are the 58 which is hopeless and carries fresh air and maybe an extension to the short 57A somewhere. 

Across the border in North Tyneside you've got the W1, W2, W3, 51 (shorts) and 359 you could easily play around with as they're all heavily subsidised as they just don't work and usually carry fresh air aswell.

(09 Mar 2021, 4:15 pm)mb134 wrote Was thinking about the GNE X11 this morning and other routes or areas of the NE that could be exploited this summer. 

Looking at North Northumberland, up to Seahouses, you could realistically add 2 to the PVR of the X18 and X20 (1 per route, to be honest only really a PVR increase of 1 over the usual summer) to achieve the following:

X18 up to Berwick every 2 hours as per 2019. 
X20 up to Seahouses ever 2 hours (northbound dep Alnwick xx:35, arr Seahouses xx:34, dep Seahouses xx:36, arr Alnwick xx:35)

Gives a combined Alnwick to Seahouses frequency of every hour (unevenly split). Opens up an easy avenue up the coast for those living in Ashington, Ellington, Lynemouth and the caravan parks around that area. Equally gives a better option for the hop on hop off day tickets up there for people who want to do so. 

I'd hope they also look at bringing back the every 20 minutes X93 between Whitby and S'Boro.

(09 Mar 2021, 5:08 pm)Storx wrote Isn't there the 418 which runs in between the X18 runs to do a bus every hour service up there already between Alnwick and Belford.

I don't disagree with the hourly runs up there but I'd say run the X15 shorts up instead of the X20. It's almost 40 minutes quicker between Newcastle and Alnwick and is a big difference when making a long journey all the way upto Seahouses.

I know there's some on here who enjoy riding around the world on buses but 3 hours is too long for the majority of people but I'd be tempted to do something like https://www.google.com/maps/dir/55.6077647,-1.7143558/54.9769355,-1.6057034/@55.4501972,-1.6563621,12z/data=!4m34!4m33!1m30!3m4!1m2!1d-1.6504207!2d55.5787187!3s0x4880aea8bbe42fab:0x6d19040e653d16a0!3m4!1m2!1d-1.6396658!2d55.4913465!3s0x4880a9efe01901c1:0xf1e7b418d63ebf80!3m4!1m2!1d-1.6166154!2d55.4315073!3s0x487e03b42d6620d5:0x2b7a9d52d5d64113!3m4!1m2!1d-1.7003638!2d55.4100066!3s0x487e0120f5e915fb:0xcbc4794433b7e017!3m4!1m2!1d-1.6850721!2d55.1633058!3s0x487e0b023dc41cdf:0x9ac1f72097a619f3!3m4!1m2!1d-1.6164222!2d54.9958665!3s0x487e712a40ea6b3b:0x863fe0fa60c1bfd6!1m0!3e0 and give a much quicker service up to Bamburgh instead every 2 hours rather than an uneven hourly service from Amble etc. I tried to jam Craster in but it takes too long.