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RE: Arriva North East: Service Suggestions - Train8261 - 14 Mar 2022
(14 Mar 2022, 9:42 am)GNE6312 Arriva should extend the 44/45 to Newcastle Airport on all journeysDon't think it could work with the 7 minutes connection with the 43 along to Newcastle
RE: Arriva North East: Service Suggestions - Storx - 14 Mar 2022
(14 Mar 2022, 9:42 am)GNE6312 Arriva should extend the 44/45 to Newcastle Airport on all journeys
What's the point, you can catch it direct from Newcastle / Regent Centre on the Metro much quicker and when you've paid £1k plus for a holiday a £20 taxi isn't the end of the world. Most people couldn't be chewed with a bus before a holiday especially with cases.
RE: Arriva North East: Service Suggestions - Shrek - 14 Mar 2022
Because a lot of people don't want to pay for a day rover to get a bus and metro when an Arriva day ticket would be cheaper. There are also plenty of times where the Metro's are off at short notice (that's happened the last two times I've got a flight from the airport), so it would give additional choice on those occasions.
I actually know this idea has been put forward to Arriva as an idea to cover part of the route cut by GNE and the 42a. I don't know whether they have made a response to the idea though.
RE: Arriva North East: Service Suggestions - Train8261 - 14 Mar 2022
(14 Mar 2022, 4:28 pm)Shrek Because a lot of people don't want to pay for a day rover to get a bus and metro when an Arriva day ticket would be cheaper. There are also plenty of times where the Metro's are off at short notice (that's happened the last two times I've got a flight from the airport), so it would give additional choice on those occasions.Nothing been changed on nexus or Arriva website
I actually know this idea has been put forward to Arriva as an idea to cover part of the route cut by GNE and the 42a. I don't know whether they have made a response to the idea though.
RE: Arriva North East: Service Suggestions - Storx - 14 Mar 2022
(14 Mar 2022, 4:28 pm)Shrek Because a lot of people don't want to pay for a day rover to get a bus and metro when an Arriva day ticket would be cheaper. There are also plenty of times where the Metro's are off at short notice (that's happened the last two times I've got a flight from the airport), so it would give additional choice on those occasions.
I actually know this idea has been put forward to Arriva as an idea to cover part of the route cut by GNE and the 42a. I don't know whether they have made a response to the idea though.
There's no demand for it though hence why Nexus has cut the subsidised route serving it.
There's no chance Arriva will be running that though it was never a GNE route and is an old Arriva route which they ditched in 2012 or so (might be off a couple year out) with the 101 then 3 in it's later years which ran a much more sensible route connecting at Cramlington rather than Newcastle.
See: http://travelnortheast.co.uk/downloads/bustimetables/arriva/101-bly-kingprk.pdf
RE: Arriva North East: Service Suggestions - L469 YVK - 10 Jun 2022
Promotional idea for 308 & 54 with timetable changes (improved connections in W.Bay and shift time coverage) and other uses. Would tie in with the appropriate zones covering Blyth & T&W.
"Work at Cobalt and live in Blyth? Then one ticket is all you will ever need"
"Catch our Service 308 & 54* to work and on your day off, get around with us onboard our fast X10/X11 service to Newcastle as well as many other local services too"
* Requires a change of bus in Whitley Bay
RE: Arriva North East: Service Suggestions - Storx - 05 Jul 2022
Simple one but change the 57/57A to do a loop around Whitley Bay like https://www.google.com/maps/dir/55.0417549,-1.4611394/55.0430934,-1.4589036/@55.0422314,-1.4610323,15.54z/data=!4m9!4m8!1m5!3m4!1m2!1d-1.4466616!2d55.0419909!3s0x487e6c280d00cce7:0x2b12d06923d17677!1m0!3e0
It's actually quicker and opens new links to the Seafront, the walk is a bit of a chore for people needing to do it rather than wasting time circling around the back of the Fire Station etc.
People from Park View could just get on towards Whitley Bay and go around the loop.
RE: Arriva North East: Service Suggestions - omnicity4659 - 05 Jul 2022
Google isn't good at sharing modified routes, your link just shows as a straight line over the Monkseaton Metro bridge.
RE: Arriva North East: Service Suggestions - Storx - 05 Jul 2022
(05 Jul 2022, 9:01 am)omnicity4659 Google isn't good at sharing modified routes, your link just shows as a straight line over the Monkseaton Metro bridge.
Ah strange working fine for me.
It's Norham Road -> Park View -> Park Avenue -> Marine Avenue
Basically just the new route into Whitley Bay then the old route out, before all the changes, via the Playhouse. Seems logical to me, saves wandering around the back of the Firestation and it's actually a minute quicker aswell.
RE: Arriva North East: Service Suggestions - OrangeArrow49 - 10 Jul 2022
Bring the old 9 back, running hourly every day: Central Station - Blakelaw - Kenton Bar, possibly extended to Cramlington and extended once each day to run between Haymarket and Belsay. Someone recently said they miss the old 9.
RE: Arriva North East: Service Suggestions - Coastliner700 - 14 Jul 2022
(10 Jul 2022, 12:27 am)OrangeArrow49 Bring the old 9 back, running hourly every day: Central Station - Blakelaw - Kenton Bar, possibly extended to Cramlington and extended once each day to run between Haymarket and Belsay. Someone recently said they miss the old 9.
I used to use the 9/9A and then later 9X but sadly Arriva ran it into the ground constantly cancelling journeys to the point where it was no longer reliable and the inevitable happened. Not sure how it would manage in today’s world but it was a fantastic bus service whilst it ran but most of its route is served by other buses so cant imagine its going to happen. Sadly to say I can now see Stagecoach 31 the Montagu Estate leg going exactly the same way. Constantly cancelling journeys even late at night they’ve reduced the frequency and the passenger numbers seem at an all time low. With 10/11 almost following same route perhaps this long serving bus could be the next casualty.
RE: Arriva North East: Service Suggestions - OrangeArrow49 - 14 Jul 2022
(14 Jul 2022, 5:11 pm)Coastliner700 I used to use the 9/9A and then later 9X but sadly Arriva ran it into the ground constantly cancelling journeys to the point where it was no longer reliable and the inevitable happened. Not sure how it would manage in today’s world but it was a fantastic bus service whilst it ran but most of its route is served by other buses so cant imagine its going to happen. Sadly to say I can now see Stagecoach 31 the Montagu Estate leg going exactly the same way. Constantly cancelling journeys even late at night they’ve reduced the frequency and the passenger numbers seem at an all time low. With 10/11 almost following same route perhaps this long serving bus could be the next casualty.
From your username, I would assume you like Arriva. Where did you travel on the service? I'm not sure I ever actually used the service, but I remember it passing me on the way to school and passing where I used to live. The service didn't look well used from what I saw of it (admittedly not much). Just recently a woman said in the street that she misses the old 9 and would use the bus if the brought and back, and said others would too, because it's better than what Stagecoach currently offers (presumably because Stagecoach doesn't serve a few streets, instead sticking to main roads)
Genuinely I don't think it matters that most of its route is served by other buses, as it always was really from what I remember. Arriva doesn't currently operate in any of the areas the 9 did, and if they did, it would introduce new ticket options. Stagecoach apparently didn't mind the competition from the 9 when it was a success.
Even though Stagecoach only make small changes, the 31 could be revised as that would only be a small change. Didn't realise there was any duplication with the 10/11.
RE: Arriva North East: Service Suggestions - omnicity4659 - 14 Jul 2022
(14 Jul 2022, 6:49 pm)OrangeArrow49 From your username, I would assume you like Arriva.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coastliner_700
RE: Arriva North East: Service Suggestions - OrangeArrow49 - 14 Jul 2022
(14 Jul 2022, 9:12 pm)omnicity4659 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coastliner_700
Ah, interesting. So I assumed wrong. Fair enough.
Never really liked Arriva myself, but I think it was good when they had the 9, it was a nice little service. I have never discovered why it was the 9X though, I don't think it was an express.
RE: Arriva North East: Service Suggestions - Rob44 - 15 Jul 2022
wasnt the 9 a secured service operated by northumbria but paid for by newus?
RE: Arriva North East: Service Suggestions - ASX_Terranova - 19 Jul 2022
If somebody was planning to do a rival Newcastle - Blyth express, what would be the best routing in order to make it a reasonable success?
My orignial routing was:
Haymarket, Gosforth High Street, Regent Centre, A1, Old Great North Road, Bladgon Lane, Northumberlandia Car Park, East Hartford, Furnace Bank, B1331, Moorland Avenue, East Sleekburn, A189, Bebeside, Cowpen Lane, Waterloo Road & Blyth Bus Station which would take about 54 minutes depending on traffic.
RE: Arriva North East: Service Suggestions - omnicity4659 - 19 Jul 2022
(19 Jul 2022, 2:31 pm)ASX_Terranova If somebody was planning to do a rival Newcastle - Blyth express, what would be the best routing in order to make it a reasonable success?
My orignial routing was:
Haymarket, Gosforth High Street, Regent Centre, A1, Old Great North Road, Bladgon Lane, Northumberlandia Car Park, East Hartford, Furnace Bank, B1331, Moorland Avenue, East Sleekburn, A189, Bebeside, Cowpen Lane, Waterloo Road & Blyth Bus Station which would take about 54 minutes depending on traffic.
Nothing there to serve apart from Northumberlandia, which isn't popular nor interesting - it's just an apology from Banks Group for digging massive holes.
Not suitable for buses.
Weak bridge prevents access to East Sleekburn.
X30 being operated all day would be sufficient, perhaps a bidirectional circular service so Bebside gets an express straight down the Spine Road too without travel via Blyth/Newsham.
The best route would be straight up the Spine Road to Blyth, then serving Cambois (observing East Sleekburn road end on the way) if you really needed to serve it.
RE: Arriva North East: Service Suggestions - ASX_Terranova - 19 Jul 2022
(19 Jul 2022, 3:16 pm)omnicity4659 Nothing there to serve apart from Northumberlandia, which isn't popular nor interesting - it's just an apology from Banks Group for digging massive holes.
Not suitable for buses.
Weak bridge prevents access to East Sleekburn.
X30 being operated all day would be sufficient, perhaps a bidirectional circular service so Bebside gets an express straight down the Spine Road too without travel via Blyth/Newsham.
The best route would be straight up the Spine Road to Blyth, then serving Cambois (observing East Sleekburn road end on the way) if you really needed to serve it.
Theres a village at east hartford, surely a direct newcastle bus would be good for them. I also can't see on google maps where the weak bridge is?
RE: Arriva North East: Service Suggestions - omnicity4659 - 19 Jul 2022
(19 Jul 2022, 3:24 pm)ASX_Terranova Theres a village at east hartford, surely a direct newcastle would be good for them.
But it doesn't justify the cost of running a bus service through there the way you propose it, I'm sure the Arriva 43 went into the village at one point too?
The Arriva 43 is actually the closest route to serve it, it passes by on the main road.
RE: Arriva North East: Service Suggestions - ASX_Terranova - 19 Jul 2022
(19 Jul 2022, 3:29 pm)omnicity4659 But it doesn't justify the cost of running a bus service through there the way you propose it, I'm sure the Arriva 43 went into the village at one point too?You have the 58, which could be changed to go into newcastle.
The Arriva 43 is actually the closest route to serve it, it passes by on the main road.