(24 Sep 2015, 2:25 pm)tyresmoke wrote Just been looking on Traveline at the new times for these.
Appears the 22 will be extended from Wallsend via Rosehill, Battle Hill and Silverlink to Cobalt Business Park all day, with evening services terminating at Silverlink Retail Park.
22X will be a peak time only from Throckley to City via normal route then express to Cobalt (am) and back (pm).
Interesting move by Stagecoach

(24 Sep 2015, 5:22 pm)Tom wrote Do you have a link to the timetable?

(24 Sep 2015, 5:28 pm)Dan wrote It's available on Traveline's Journey Planner:
http://jplanner.travelinenortheast.info/planner

When you type in the usual details, click 'All Stops' to see times.

The evening 22Xs are timed bizarrely - they're scheduled to depart around 8 minutes after Go North East's X39 service, and if I remember rightly, four minutes after Arriva's X6 service. Go North East's express route from Cobalt offers a better specification vehicle (apart from the 16:05 departure which is a red Volvo B7TL) for the same priced day ticket (£3.90), though assuming the ADL Enviro400s which have recently transferred to Walkergate are indeed allocated to the 22 service, Stagecoach will be offering a better service during the day from Wallsend (on paper).

Bit of competition every now and again keeps the operators on their toes - most unusual of Stagecoach though!

(24 Sep 2015, 5:04 pm)Andreos1 wrote Curious!
Didn't want to say interesting like the other two ;

Whilst it opens up new links, I wonder if the 62/63 could have worked instead or even as well as?

(24 Sep 2015, 5:38 pm)MurdnunoC wrote It is a bold move by Stagecoach. 

I don't think the 62/63 would work in terms of offering a link between Newcastle and Cobalt, but it could offer something for passengers travelling to Cobalt who reside in the Longbenton/Forest Hall/West Moor and Killingworth area. Likewise, by extending either the 12, 39 or 40 to Cobalt, a brand-new connection would be created from Walker and the East End for passengers.

(24 Sep 2015, 5:41 pm)Tom wrote 22 is the best option because it will basically provide direct competition for the 1. Will be interesting if they can beat the £1.50 Wallsend/Byker area single fare though!

(24 Sep 2015, 5:45 pm)MurdnunoC wrote Depends how badly they want the custom. As history shows, Stagecoach certainly aren't beyond undercutting their competitors.

(24 Sep 2015, 5:38 pm)MurdnunoC wrote It is a bold move by Stagecoach. 

I don't think the 62/63 would work in terms of offering a link between Newcastle and Cobalt, but it could offer something for passengers travelling to Cobalt who reside in the Longbenton/Forest Hall/West Moor and Killingworth area. Likewise, by extending either the 12, 39 or 40 to Cobalt, a brand-new connection would be created from Walker and the East End for passengers.

(24 Sep 2015, 5:41 pm)Tom wrote 22 is the best option because it will basically provide direct competition for the 1. Will be interesting if they can beat the £1.50 Wallsend/Byker area single fare though!

(24 Sep 2015, 5:58 pm)Andreos1 wrote It also opens up potential for people to move onto the 100, rather than staying loyal to the incumbent around Rosehill etc., when travelling to the Metrocentre

(24 Sep 2015, 5:38 pm)MurdnunoC wrote It is a bold move by Stagecoach. 

I don't think the 62/63 would work in terms of offering a link between Newcastle and Cobalt, but it could offer something for passengers travelling to Cobalt who reside in the Longbenton/Forest Hall/West Moor and Killingworth area. Likewise, by extending either the 12, 39 or 40 to Cobalt, a brand-new connection would be created from Walker and the East End for passengers.

(25 Sep 2015, 12:07 pm)markydh wrote Now that is interesting! Though for a route beset by reliability issues, extending the route by this much is very risky... I doubt this is a serious move to compete with the other companies, though. It opens up opportunities for the vast majority of Newcastle bus users who currently have to use two companies to get to Cobalt to get there using a Stagecoach only ticket, which is cheaper for them. It wouldn't surprise me if this has been requested by several residents and been deemed commercially possible...

(25 Sep 2015, 3:25 pm)markydh wrote The other possibility is that the ever expanding Cobalt is funding it because I have never known Stagecoach actually take a risk like this in the 14 years I have lived in Newcastle!

(25 Sep 2015, 3:28 pm)Michael wrote Wish they would take the risk in Sunderland!

(25 Sep 2015, 5:00 pm)stagecoachbusdepot wrote What changes would you make to the Sunderland network?

(28 Sep 2015, 11:28 am)Michael wrote Sorry for the reply, i forgot about it! 



4 - Changed to service Doxford International every 20 minutes, rest of the route stays the same but Silksworth Road drops to every 20 minutes. 
23 - Thorney Close - City Centre - Seaburn - Dene Estate - every 10 minutes, every 20 minutes on a Sunday, every 30 minutes on an evening. 


Currently working on changes to the 18/19... will edit this post when i do them.

(28 Sep 2015, 12:57 pm)cbma06 wrote I thought service 23 ran along this route every 10 minutes?.

(25 Sep 2015, 5:00 pm)stagecoachbusdepot wrote What changes would you make to the Sunderland network?

(28 Sep 2015, 1:03 pm)cbma06 wrote depends if Stagecoach wants to expand out further with the Sunderland Network, even though Stagecoach in Sunderland are just contempt with their own little unit of bus services with higher fares year by year, maybe a service connecting Sunderland with Hartlepool then onwards to either Stockton or Middlesbrough with an express theme.

(28 Sep 2015, 1:02 pm)Michael wrote Not down towards the seafront, only on Sundays when it serves Morrisons.

(28 Sep 2015, 1:12 pm)cbma06 wrote I cant see any value of running service 23 down to the sea front, while stagecoach has service E6 running every 20 minutes on Dykelands Road (old 24 route) and stagecoach has service E1,E2,E6 all running every 20 minutes freq between the town and Seaburn Front. bring back the E3 lol, used to like getting on the E3 when their had the South Shields minibuses on them, crowded as out lol lol.

(28 Sep 2015, 1:17 pm)Michael wrote Only suggested it because the 18/19 take years. 


The E's do the job but why not have something new.

(24 Sep 2015, 2:25 pm)tyresmoke wrote Just been looking on Traveline at the new times for these.
Appears the 22 will be extended from Wallsend via Rosehill, Battle Hill and Silverlink to Cobalt Business Park all day, with evening services terminating at Silverlink Retail Park.
22X will be a peak time only from Throckley to City via normal route then express to Cobalt (am) and back (pm).
Interesting move by Stagecoach

(28 Sep 2015, 5:38 pm)MVK 500R wrote Very interesting move by Stagecoach.  As a regular user of the 1 between Rosehill and Newcastle, it'll be interesting to see how the service fares against the 15 minute frequency of the 1.  As for me personally, I'll be spoilt as to what bus to get to work.  I think it could be a good move, as the 1 is regularly operated by single decker Scania's, and the 7:53, 8:03 and 8:23 1's are usually full by the time I get on it.

(28 Sep 2015, 1:27 pm)cbma06 wrote I still remember when the 18 and 19 used to run every 20 minutes each during the day and every 30 minutes sundays and evenings, sundays and evenings got took off because stagecoach wanted the passengers to go through the town to transfer onto another service to make the connection, still remember when the 18/19 used to go to Whitburn.

(28 Sep 2015, 1:27 pm)cbma06 wrote Stagecoach in Sunderland doesn't do anything new these days.