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London Bus Operations - cbma06 - 22 May 2022
(22 May 2022, 3:28 pm)Andreos1 wrote https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-61543634
Fire at Potters Bar depot.
Who’s the bus operator for that depot?
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RE: London Bus Operations - wibblejunior - 22 May 2022
(22 May 2022, 3:48 pm)cbma06 wrote Who’s the bus operator for that depot?Metroline (as it says in the article)
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London Bus Operations - cbma06 - 22 May 2022
(22 May 2022, 3:59 pm)wibblejunior wrote Metroline (as it says in the article)
Yea, saw that, just who had the backing of Metroline
Looks like Singapore, It is a subsidiary of ComfortDelGro Corporation and operates services under contract to Transport for London. As at March 2021, the fleet consisted of 1,532 buses, making it the third largest London Buses operator.
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RE: London Bus Operations - citaro5284 - 02 Jun 2022
I see some 16 bus routes are facing the axe in London
https://diamondgeezer.blogspot.com/
RE: London Bus Operations - Michael - 02 Jun 2022
(02 Jun 2022, 6:28 am)citaro5284 wrote I see some 16 bus routes are facing the axe in London
https://diamondgeezer.blogspot.com/
That's alot for London's standard - I've never used the London buses - so don't know any of the routes at all - but I take it, the PVR for those services is high?
Take it the buses on the routes getting withdrawn will be moved elsewhere to replace older buses in London?......... The North East will probable's end up with some no doubt.
RE: London Bus Operations - Andreos1 - 02 Jun 2022
(02 Jun 2022, 6:28 am)citaro5284 wrote I see some 16 bus routes are facing the axe in LondonQuite a high number of services. Reading between the lines, it definitely seems to be politically motivated.
https://diamondgeezer.blogspot.com/
I'd even go as far as suggesting it being part of a strategy to ensure the next London Mayor ends up being a tory one.
RE: London Bus Operations - Michael - 02 Jun 2022
(02 Jun 2022, 9:57 am)Andreos1 wrote Quite a high number of services. Reading between the lines, it definitely seems to be politically motivated.
I'd even go as far as suggesting it being part of a strategy to ensure the next London Mayor ends up being a tory one.
Sure I read, because of the bail outs, for Transport for London would have to cut services... sure that was part of the deal?
Unless I'm making that up.
RE: London Bus Operations - Andreos1 - 02 Jun 2022
(02 Jun 2022, 10:16 am)Michael wrote Sure I read, because of the bail outs, for Transport for London would have to cut services... sure that was part of the deal?Yeah, apparently the stories are true and in order to get funding, they've got to make cuts.
Unless I'm making that up.
Similar to when Nexus were told to contract the metro ops out. Apparently it was the only way they would be eligible for funding.
RE: London Bus Operations - Michael - 02 Jun 2022
(02 Jun 2022, 10:51 am)Andreos1 wrote Yeah, apparently the stories are true and in order to get funding, they've got to make cuts.
Similar to when Nexus were told to contract the metro ops out. Apparently it was the only way they would be eligible for funding.
I'm sure London could survive with a few cuts... its not like they have many services which overlap anyway.
RE: London Bus Operations - busmanT - 02 Jun 2022
(02 Jun 2022, 9:57 am)Andreos1 wrote Quite a high number of services. Reading between the lines, it definitely seems to be politically motivated.Not really any worse than most places outside London - although London unusually has a large number of overlapping high frequency routes.
I'd even go as far as suggesting it being part of a strategy to ensure the next London Mayor ends up being a tory one.
GNE mostly cut those out up here already, or already reduced them (e.g. 56 from 10 to 12 to 15 mins)..
RE: London Bus Operations - Andreos1 - 03 Jun 2022
https://busandtrainuser.com/2022/06/01/carnage-on-the-buses-in-central-london/?s=09#more-32889
Passengers don't like changing buses and there's carnage ahead.
No, it's not the Tyne & Wear or County Durham that Roger is on about. It's London.
We need to get his thoughts on the NE and see what he thinks about the changes up here.
RE: London Bus Operations - Rob44 - 03 Jun 2022
(03 Jun 2022, 2:56 pm)Andreos1 wrote https://busandtrainuser.com/2022/06/01/carnage-on-the-buses-in-central-london/?s=09#more-32889
Passengers don't like changing buses and there's carnage ahead.
No, it's not the Tyne & Wear or County Durham that Roger is on about. It's London.
We need to get his thoughts on the NE and see what he thinks about the changes up here.
would he have a stroke at what's happening ( gne) and going to happen ( allegedly SCNE and arriva) up here?
RE: London Bus Operations - busmanT - 03 Jun 2022
(03 Jun 2022, 2:56 pm)Andreos1 wrote https://busandtrainuser.com/2022/06/01/carnage-on-the-buses-in-central-london/?s=09#more-32889Looking through Roger's previous postings, he's always favoured GNE especially the branding and high-quality printed timetables.
Passengers don't like changing buses and there's carnage ahead.
No, it's not the Tyne & Wear or County Durham that Roger is on about. It's London.
We need to get his thoughts on the NE and see what he thinks about the changes up here.
RE: London Bus Operations - Andreos1 - 03 Jun 2022
(03 Jun 2022, 3:36 pm)busmanT wrote Looking through Roger's previous postings, he's always favoured GNE especially the branding and high-quality printed timetables.Exactly that. But surely he will be conflicted with his mate and fellow 10 percenter doing exactly the sort of thing that RF doesn't approve of.
(03 Jun 2022, 3:23 pm)Rob44 wrote would he have a stroke at what's happening ( gne) and going to happen ( allegedly SCNE and arriva) up here?If SNE and ANE did it. Quite possibly!
Maybe he's totally unaware of these GNE changes. Someone needs to let him know.
RE: London Bus Operations - DeltaMan - 04 Jun 2022
(03 Jun 2022, 2:56 pm)Andreos1 wrote https://busandtrainuser.com/2022/06/01/carnage-on-the-buses-in-central-london/?s=09#more-32889
Passengers don't like changing buses and there's carnage ahead.
No, it's not the Tyne & Wear or County Durham that Roger is on about. It's London.
We need to get his thoughts on the NE and see what he thinks about the changes up here.
I think he would have been better off keeping his blog and tweets anonymous to be honest.
RE: London Bus Operations - busmanT - 04 Jun 2022
(03 Jun 2022, 4:35 pm)Andreos1 wrote Exactly that. But surely he will be conflicted with his mate and fellow 10 percenter doing exactly the sort of thing that RF doesn't approve of.I’m sure that he’s already mentioned the GNE changes in passing in one of his tweets/blog posts.
If SNE and ANE did it. Quite possibly!
Maybe he's totally unaware of these GNE changes. Someone needs to let him know.
I’m sure that there will be plenty of new timetables for him to enthuse over!
I’m not convinced that ANE haven’t already made their changes, and SNE haven’t really got a lot in South Shields/Sunderland to prune.
RE: London Bus Operations - MetrolineGA1511 - 11 Jun 2022
In most cases the cuts will reduce the number of routes along certain roads and reduce through connections rather than being wholesale withdrawals.
The Go-Ahead London cuts mean 7 route withdrawals, 45 buses worth of work and 95 drivers jobs eliminated. However it is believed that there will be no compulsory redundancies.
RE: London Bus Operations - Michael - 26 Jul 2022
We are pleased to share photos of the ‘ie tram’ bus in production at Irizar’s factory in northern Spain. These sleek, zero-emission electric vehicles will operate on Route 358 (Crystal Palace to Orpington) as part Go-Ahead London’s ongoing commitment to sustainable transport.
https://twitter.com/Go_Ahead_London/status/1551960536975155201?fbclid=IwAR0s1qwyUfBJFEr3q_hEBzaAaboqWrTnrwgr4dwGt_ijb4DssjCHKk8tJJ8
Sorry but was someone drunk when they designed them? - look horrible.
RE: London Bus Operations - wibblejunior - 26 Jul 2022
(26 Jul 2022, 6:13 pm)Michael wrote We are pleased to share photos of the ‘ie tram’ bus in production at Irizar’s factory in northern Spain. These sleek, zero-emission electric vehicles will operate on Route 358 (Crystal Palace to Orpington) as part Go-Ahead London’s ongoing commitment to sustainable transport.Looks like these things have a new competitor in terms of ugliness.
https://twitter.com/Go_Ahead_London/status/1551960536975155201?fbclid=IwAR0s1qwyUfBJFEr3q_hEBzaAaboqWrTnrwgr4dwGt_ijb4DssjCHKk8tJJ8
Sorry but was someone drunk when they designed them? - look horrible.
RE: London Bus Operations - WestDurhamSwift - 26 Oct 2022
Spotted an Abellio Routemaster in Darlington yesterday, anyone know why it was there?
RE: London Bus Operations - Jimmi - 26 Oct 2022
(26 Oct 2022, 5:44 am)Arcticrossy92 wrote Spotted an Abellio Routemaster in Darlington yesterday, anyone know why it was there?Likely with Cummins in Darlington, you can often find stuff out on road test around Darlington
RE: London Bus Operations - Michael - 29 Oct 2022
Massive fire rips through Slough bus station as vehicles and infrastructure are destroyed and police warn public to keep away
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11367971/Massive-fire-rips-Slough-bus-station-police-warn-public-away.html
https://twitter.com/CyclistAnons/status/1586218211896279040
Looks like a bus caught fire, which then went on to the roof and the whole lot went up
RE: London Bus Operations - Phillippatt - 01 Nov 2022
(29 Oct 2022, 10:03 am)Michael wrote Massive fire rips through Slough bus station as vehicles and infrastructure are destroyed and police warn public to keep awaythats gonna take a while to repair
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11367971/Massive-fire-rips-Slough-bus-station-police-warn-public-away.html
https://twitter.com/CyclistAnons/status/1586218211896279040
Looks like a bus caught fire, which then went on to the roof and the whole lot went up
RE: London Bus Operations - ASX_Terranova - 02 Feb 2023
A bit late to the party but Go-Ahead London are going to be using Irizar ie Trams on the 358 (Orpington - Crystal Palace).
Were first reported back in Oct 22 as being ordered, the photos from the bus expo (Nov 22) look really good.
Doubt they'll be ordered up here, but you never know.
https://www.focustransport.org/2022/11/irizar-ie-tram-shown-at-euro-bus-expo.html
RE: London Bus Operations - Unber43 - 02 Feb 2023
I wish GNE would bring up the Citaros which are going to be displaced.
I hope they get some those tram/buses just not sure what routes they would go on
RE: London Bus Operations - ASX_Terranova - 02 Feb 2023
(02 Feb 2023, 12:17 pm)Unber43 wrote I wish GNE would bring up the Citaros which are going to be displaced.
I hope they get some those tram/buses just not sure what routes they would go on
I would like to see them on one of Newcastles Stagecoach routes (i.e.30/31), doubt GNE would want two different electric fleets at the minute.
Be interesting if a demo ever comes up here.
RE: London Bus Operations - Michael - 15 Jul 2023
First "Superloop" route started today in London:
The first part of the proposed “Superloop” London express network will go into action tomorrow (15 July) when route 607 between Uxbridge and White City is rebranded as SL8.
https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/buses/superloop?intcmp=73363
https://www.route-one.net/news/first-tfl-superloop-bus-route-to-start-this-weekend/
RE: London Bus Operations - Michael - 28 Dec 2023
London's busiest bus routes with some services operating at 96% occupancy at peak times
The six busiest sections of London bus routes:
1) 482 Southall to Heathrow
Stop - Great West Rd / Basildene Rd
Peak: 96% capacity at 5am
2) N18 Harrow to Whitehall
Stop - Wyld Way
Peak: 92% capacity at 5am
3) SL9 [X140] Heathrow to Harrow
Stop - Yeading / White Hart R'about
Peak: 91% capacity at 7am
4) 265 Tolworth to Putney
Stop - Fairacres
Peak: 89% capacity at 4pm
5) 487 Harrow to Willesden
Stop - Cleveley Crescent
Peak: 88% capacity at 5.45am
6) W6 Edmonton to Southgate
Stop - North Middlesex Hospital
Peak: 88% capacity at 7.45am
Full list of the London route capacity peaks here:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12786855/Londons-busiest-bus-routes-services-operating-96-occupancy-peak-times-wheres-packed-section-route.html
RE: London Bus Operations - BIG MICK STOKOE - 28 Dec 2023
Nee wonder it takes so long to get anywhere down there. I’ll stick to the toon thanks
RE: London Bus Operations - Rob44 - 11 Jan 2024
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67944657
Electric bus catches fire -