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RE: Procters Group - Teessider2014 - 27 Feb 2015

##Further Update##

A new service linking Yarm and Thornaby via Maltby, Hilton and Kirklevington will start running as soon as possible, most probably be 2 journeys a day, twice a week, partly subsidised by local parish councils.

Service 84, Will possibly be getting a route change to serve all of Redmarshall and Bishopton, omitting Thorpe Thewles, again funded by local parish councils.

Early morning 605/6/7 funding ends in May, services will be kept commercially, expect route and number changes.


RE: Procters Group - Jimmi - 27 Feb 2015

(27 Feb 2015, 11:06 pm)Smarty93 wrote ##Further Update##



A new service linking Yarm and Thornaby via Maltby, Hilton and Kirklevington will start running as soon as possible, most probably be 2 journeys a day, twice a week, partly subsidised by local parish councils.



Service 84, Will possibly be getting a route change to serve all of Redmarshall and Bishopton, omitting Thorpe Thewles, again funded by local parish councils.



Early morning 605/6/7 funding ends in May, services will be kept commercially, expect route and number changes.

Good to hear Bishopton could be getting more buses again as they currently only have the Scarlet Band 20 to Darlington on Monday, Wednesday and Fridays at the moment and who knows how much longer that will last.


RE: Procters Group - Kuyoyo - 27 Feb 2015

(27 Feb 2015, 11:11 pm)Jimmi wrote Good to hear Bishopton could be getting more buses again as they currently only have the Scarlet Band 20 to Darlington on Monday, Wednesday and Fridays at the moment and who knows how much longer that will last.

To be brutally honest, Bishopton was never a busy stop when Arriva's 6 went round there - was very few trips that actually stopped there and very few fare paying passengers. Also then the fact Bishopton is in Darlington Borough Council area not Stockton yet everybody in the village wants to go to Stockton (it also makes a journey from Stillington to Stockton longer as it takes 10 minutes from Stillington to Redmarshall via Bishopton, 5 minutes longer than via Whitton).


RE: Procters Group - Jimmi - 27 Feb 2015

(27 Feb 2015, 11:15 pm)Kuyoyo wrote To be brutally honest, Bishopton was never a busy stop when Arriva's 6 went round there - was very few trips that actually stopped there and very few fare paying passengers. Also then the fact Bishopton is in Darlington Borough Council area not Stockton yet everybody in the village wants to go to Stockton (it also makes a journey from Stillington to Stockton longer as it takes 10 minutes from Stillington to Redmarshall via Bishopton, 5 minutes longer than via Whitton).

Had a feeling it wouldn't be many people using it especially since Arriva changed the route to Stillington to run via Hartburn when the cuts happened (then swiftly cut Stillington too).

At least they will have a service should the 20 end, which I think it will as it has pitiful passenger numbers when I've seen it in Darlington.


RE: Procters Group - Teessider2014 - 27 Feb 2015

Had an offer off the parish council that is apparently too good to refuse, possible extensions to mbro aswell via Teesside Park.

The problem with rural or semi rural routes is everyone complains when services are cut yet hardly ever use them when they are re-instated!


RE: Procters Group - Cock Robin - 28 Feb 2015

Hardly think anyone is going to mind a 5 minute longer journey. At least they've got a bus.


RE: Procters Group - tyresmoke - 01 Mar 2015

Glad to say I've spent half an hour working on a fleetlist for Dales & District... it can be found here

EDIT: New late last year for Procters was BN64CNK in Lochs & Glens livery


RE: Procters Group - jaimzm - 01 Mar 2015

something i cant work out how does the service 74 work in northallerton work does interwork with another service 


RE: Procters Group - Cock Robin - 03 Mar 2015

(27 Feb 2015, 11:24 pm)Smarty93 wrote Had an offer off the parish council that is apparently too good to refuse, possible extensions to mbro aswell via Teesside Park.

The problem with rural or semi rural routes is everyone complains when services are cut yet hardly ever use them when they are re-instated!



RE: Procters Group - GUG - 05 Mar 2015

Minibus PX51DVL formed the last 29 service from Darlington to Richmond this evening making for very funny reactions by passengers when it pulled up onto stand


RE: Procters Group - Jimmi - 06 Mar 2015

Is Leven Valley SN06 BRV on loan to Dales and District as it was doing the 34 in Darlington this afternoon.

I know the NEB fleet list says loan, just want to make sure as I don't want any more incorrect Flickr captions.


RE: Procters Group - Cock Robin - 06 Mar 2015

(27 Feb 2015, 11:15 pm)Kuyoyo wrote To be brutally honest, Bishopton was never a busy stop when Arriva's 6 went round there - was very few trips that actually stopped there and very few fare paying passengers. Also then the fact Bishopton is in Darlington Borough Council area not Stockton yet everybody in the village wants to go to Stockton (it also makes a journey from Stillington to Stockton longer as it takes 10 minutes from Stillington to Redmarshall via Bishopton, 5 minutes longer than via Whitton).

(06 Mar 2015, 5:48 pm)Jimmi wrote Is Leven Valley SN06 BRV on loan to Dales and District as it was doing the 34 in Darlington this afternoon.

I know the NEB fleet list says loan, just want to make sure as I don't want any more incorrect Flickr captions.

Is that yellow?


RE: Procters Group - Jimmi - 06 Mar 2015

(06 Mar 2015, 6:35 pm)Cock Robin wrote Is that yellow?

All white


RE: Procters Group - Teessider2014 - 06 Mar 2015

Yes, BRV on loan to Dales And District


RE: Procters Group - Jimmi - 06 Mar 2015

(06 Mar 2015, 6:57 pm)Smarty93 wrote Yes, BRV on loan to Dales And District

Thanks for clearing that up.


RE: Procters Group - Kuyoyo - 10 Mar 2015

As the notices are now up on their buses........

Leven Valley will cease operations after end of service on Friday 20th March due to increasing insurance costs makes their network unaffordable to operate. As such, the villages of Stillington, Whitton, Carlton, Redmarshall and Stainton along with parts of Marton, Coulby Newham, Nunthorpe and Eston will be without any bus services after that date.


RE: Procters Group - Michael - 10 Mar 2015

(10 Mar 2015, 8:48 am)Kuyoyo wrote As the notices are now up on their buses........

Leven Valley will cease operations after end of service on Friday 20th March due to increasing insurance costs makes their network unaffordable to operate. As such, the villages of Stillington, Whitton, Carlton, Redmarshall and Stainton along with parts of Marton, Coulby Newham, Nunthorpe and Eston will be without any bus services after that date.

Do you think anyone will try and provide a service around those areas?


RE: Procters Group - tyresmoke - 10 Mar 2015

(10 Mar 2015, 8:53 am)Michael wrote Do you think anyone will try and provide a service around those areas?

I understand some alternative services are being worked on but it won't be much.
Unfortunately the councils don't have any money to fund anything, which will ultimately leave many areas without a service


RE: Procters Group - tyresmoke - 10 Mar 2015

Gazette article here
http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/business/business-news/leven-valley-coaches-close-after-8808100?ICID-FB-Gaz-main

Services affected are:
18/19 Middlesbrough - James Cook - Coulby Newham - Hemlington - Stainton - Middlesbrough
45 Wolviston Court - Billingham - Middlesbrough
77 Stockton - Yarm (evening/Sunday only)
84 Stockton - North Tees Hosp - Carlton - Stillington
85/86 Stockton - Elton Park circular (evening/Sunday only)
436 Billingham - Norton - Stockton - Middlesbrough (Sunday am only)
455/6 Nunthorpe - Marton - James Cook - Middlesbrough - South Bank - Eston - Bankfields
492 Middlesbrough - South Bank - Eston - Normanby Bexley Drive
603/604 Middlesbrough - Marton - Hemlington - Stainton - Acklam - Middlesbrough (Sunday am only)
605/6/7 Middlesbrough - Marton - Hemlington - Stainton - Acklam - Middlesbrough (Mon-Sat am only)
H66 Hartburn - Stockton - Teesside Park


RE: Procters Group - Andreos1 - 10 Mar 2015

Very sad to see this happen, particularly when it is for the reasons described.

Has any reason been given for the massive rise in premiums?


RE: Procters Group - Andreos1 - 10 Mar 2015

New service for Ripon, replacing D&D service http://m.theadvertiserseries.co.uk/news/11843423.New_bus_service_for_Ripon


RE: Procters Group - John_R - 10 Mar 2015

(10 Mar 2015, 12:45 pm)Andreos1 wrote Very sad to see this happen, particularly when it is for the reasons described.

Has any reason been given for the massive rise in premiums?

There is some more detail in this article

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-31813233


RE: Procters Group - tyresmoke - 10 Mar 2015

(10 Mar 2015, 12:57 pm)Andreos1 wrote New service for Ripon, replacing D&D service http://m.theadvertiserseries.co.uk/news/11843423.New_bus_service_for_Ripon

Wish them well but using two high value Optare Tempo hybrids from London is probably not the smartest idea


RE: Procters Group - jaimzm - 10 Mar 2015

(10 Mar 2015, 12:45 pm)Andreos1 wrote Very sad to see this happen, particularly when it is for the reasons described.

Has any reason been given for the massive rise in premiums?

What will happen to the buses they got will the mpds go back to dales and district 


RE: Procters Group - benambro - 10 Mar 2015

Would never have thought the great little yellow buses would have seen their day!


RE: Procters Group - jaimzm - 10 Mar 2015

(10 Mar 2015, 9:28 pm)benambro wrote Would never have thought the great little yellow buses would have seen their day!

neither did i am shocked by it i wonder what will happen to the buses


RE: Procters Group - tyresmoke - 10 Mar 2015

(10 Mar 2015, 10:14 pm)jaimzm wrote neither did i am shocked by it i wonder what will happen to the buses

Majority will no longer be required so will probably be sold! Dales & District have lost a few contracts from mid April too of course


RE: Procters Group - Jimmi - 11 Mar 2015

Another article about Leven Valley closing:
http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/11846111.Bus_operator_shuts___blames__compensation_culture_/


RE: Procters Group - tyresmoke - 11 Mar 2015

See my post in the upcoming Arriva changes thread for info on extra service 6's and 7A's to cover former Leven work starting from next Saturday


RE: Procters Group - Kuyoyo - 11 Mar 2015

And see my post in the Stagecarriage thread regarding some more former Leven work with secured futures.