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RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2017 - citaro5284 - 19 Apr 2017

(19 Apr 2017, 3:39 pm)Jamie M wrote 5234 on X31s today with the now out of date branding.

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How is the branding out of date?


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2017 - Dan - 19 Apr 2017

(19 Apr 2017, 3:49 pm)citaro5284 wrote How is the branding out of date?

Sub-branding for the 12/12A services still applied.

The cant rail is planned to be stripped and replaced with a similar style depicted by the OmniDekka on the timetable for the revised 6 service prior to 21st May.


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2017 - Jamie M - 19 Apr 2017

(19 Apr 2017, 3:49 pm)citaro5284 wrote How is the branding out of date?
It has winlaton on the taglines, given it's now at stanley on the stanley expresses these aren't correct anymore.

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RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2017 - Andreos1 - 19 Apr 2017

(19 Apr 2017, 1:18 pm)missedbus wrote Blaydon Racers will, once again, be gannin' along the Scotswood Road, so it's the appropriate route. The buses actually serve Blaydon Bus Station too.


As for MetroCentre Mini, I'm sure it's not lost on people that it's been done before (with Renault S56s and Optare Metroriders), just not in the Stanley area.

Stanley Taxis had the MC series from Stanley to Metrocentre for a period. I think GNE continued these for a period until the Marshall Darts appeared under the Stanley Shuttle brand.

I had my last ride on an Optare Lance around that period. Stanley had a loan resplended with A4 sized destination blinds.


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2017 - Rapidsnap - 20 Apr 2017

(19 Apr 2017, 6:40 pm)Andreos1 wrote Stanley Taxis had the MC series from Stanley to Metrocentre for a period. I think GNE continued these for a period until the Marshall Darts appeared under the Stanley Shuttle brand.

I had my last ride on an Optare Lance around that period. Stanley had a loan resplended with A4 sized destination blinds.

That would be a Dennis Lance with Plaxton Verde body. It was 4774 - L141YTY seen here a few years earlier in fleet livery - https://www.flickr.com/photos/gjm-photogenic/28817611422/


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2017 - GX03 - 20 Apr 2017

5235 has now moved to Stanley.


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2017 - Michael - 20 Apr 2017

700 changing stands in Park Lane from 22nd April

Stand H for Clanny house

Stand G for St Peters


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2017 - L469 YVK - 20 Apr 2017

(19 Apr 2017, 12:37 pm)RBZ 5459 wrote Yes suggestion is they are due to go green, perhaps they've leaked that one a bit early... 
The full PVR was said to be achieved by the TTX B9s later on.

Unless they could get re-configured, would it not be wise to swap 2x ex TTX Gemini 2s with 6099/6100? This would then mean alongside 6084 that tip up facilities are available on all of the Tyne Valley Ten journeys unless a spare is
used with the same applying for the Fab 56.


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2017 - Andreos1 - 20 Apr 2017

(20 Apr 2017, 12:11 am)Rapidsnap wrote That would be a Dennis Lance with Plaxton Verde body. It was 4774 - L141YTY seen here a few years earlier in fleet livery - https://www.flickr.com/photos/gjm-photogenic/28817611422/

Nah, it wasn't one of those.

It was one of the ex-GAG Optare bodied Lance's.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/nedbasher/7469061652

Stanley had at least one, whilst the repaints were taking hold. They had some of the original Marshall Darts (opposed to Capitals) around the same period. I was unfortunate to get one on a 775/778/78 around the same time.


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2017 - Rapidsnap - 20 Apr 2017

Not sure if any Dennis Lance / Optare Sigma's actually ran up in Derwentside. A DAF SB220 / Optare Delta yes, but don't recall Sigmas seeing use up there.


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2017 - Dan - 20 Apr 2017

(20 Apr 2017, 12:11 am)Rapidsnap wrote That would be a Dennis Lance with Plaxton Verde body. It was 4774 - L141YTY seen here a few years earlier in fleet livery - https://www.flickr.com/photos/gjm-photogenic/28817611422/

4774 was repainted by Go North East into a plain white base livery on 2nd July 2007 and sold to Stanley Travel.

In the interim period between being sold to Stanley Travel and being acquired again by Go North East in October 2007 for use at Ashington following the Northumbria Buses takeover, Stanley Travel operated service 711 on behalf of Go North East, using this bus.

[Image: 32566882881_0ccfc91624.jpg]L141YTY Stanley 711 by Carlisle Bus Group, on Flickr


I've had a quick look back at my archives (yet to be put on our NEB archive), and I can't find anything about a Sigma being allocated to Stanley. The info is a bit sketchy from that period, though. The repaint floats in May 2007 were Darts 8099, 8110 and 8117. Went to and from various depots week on week, depending on which depot had a bus in for repaint.


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2017 - Rapidsnap - 20 Apr 2017

4774 later went to Washington and Deptford depots before finally being withdrawn once again. Lasted quite a while despite being a bit of an oddball.


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2017 - EL1TE - 20 Apr 2017

Saw a post on The Real UK Bus Enthusiasts group on Facebook about the new blaydon racers.


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2017 - EL1TE - 20 Apr 2017

(18 Apr 2017, 7:06 pm)Dans_bus_photos wrote 6084 has gained a full size rear advert for Dalton Park

https://www.flickr.com/photos/147350520@N02/33335267763/in/photolist-K1eFwW-HqcSX7-rtwPBu-F4wths-mMrQ7K-D7mKXY-PZeeoq-CW9g62-zehmXs-BWobqk-E4H5g3-rsDayY-rK7S63-rKekL4-wNHFJw-BE636e-JSNB3R-KGmfBH-JuUdEK-v8JTwn-wgNvAz-umSVmm-sWN4qh-qRbRpc-vtp4xq-rwuJpD-N3FmQQ-wwZ1hZ-tn6F7h-QSeMyk-wyEgPT-DkeKrC-waEpdf-zVc4ud-KUve6q-vjBMmc-vjBJTr-vvzfRQ-LDVXxE-Tqy1GA-v5hRyb-z8P68p-w7dVP1-TMvdfs-SMHXHV-xqubBt-uYi9tU-s7bdxR-qUuciW-rH8YRN


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2017 - Jamie M - 20 Apr 2017

(20 Apr 2017, 11:55 am)EL1TE wrote https://www.flickr.com/photos/147350520@N02/33335267763/in/photolist-K1eFwW-HqcSX7-rtwPBu-F4wths-mMrQ7K-D7mKXY-PZeeoq-CW9g62-zehmXs-BWobqk-E4H5g3-rsDayY-rK7S63-rKekL4-wNHFJw-BE636e-JSNB3R-KGmfBH-JuUdEK-v8JTwn-wgNvAz-umSVmm-sWN4qh-qRbRpc-vtp4xq-rwuJpD-N3FmQQ-wwZ1hZ-tn6F7h-QSeMyk-wyEgPT-DkeKrC-waEpdf-zVc4ud-KUve6q-vjBMmc-vjBJTr-vvzfRQ-LDVXxE-Tqy1GA-v5hRyb-z8P68p-w7dVP1-TMvdfs-SMHXHV-xqubBt-uYi9tU-s7bdxR-qUuciW-rH8YRN
I don't like it, looks rather out of place.

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RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2017 - Andreos1 - 20 Apr 2017

RapidsnapNot sure if any Dennis Lance / Optare Sigma's actually ran up in Derwentside. A DAF SB220 / Optare Delta yes, but don't recall Sigmas seeing use up there.

At least one ran up there. Well after the Delta's had gone.

It was a short-term spell and after a period of missing it, managed to catch it one cold, dark evening at Dipton on a run to Stanley.


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2017 - Dan - 20 Apr 2017

5439 now carries a promotional livery for the #Sunderland2021 campaign:

[Image: 33350563663_ba2908b05f.jpg]Go North East 5439 by NorthEast England Bus Photos, on Flickr

Volvo B9TL 6099 should also now carry a slightly modified version of the Sun FM promotional livery - with updated logos for both Go North East and Sun FM.


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2017 - Michael - 20 Apr 2017

(20 Apr 2017, 5:22 pm)Dan wrote 5439 now carries a promotional livery for the #Sunderland2021 campaign:

[Image: 33350563663_ba2908b05f.jpg]Go North East 5439 by NorthEast England Bus Photos, on Flickr

Volvo B9TL 6099 should also now carry a slightly modified version of the Sun FM promotional livery - with updated logos for both Go North East and Sun FM.

The promotion livery looks decent, is it on both sides?, wonder if Stagecoach will have one?


Hopefully we can get it, it'll not just benefit Sunderland but all of the North East......... Sunderland backed the previous Newcastle bid a while back so in return, they're supporting ours.

Some reason, i don't think we'll get it..... most of the government etc forgot about the North East


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2017 - Dan - 20 Apr 2017

(20 Apr 2017, 5:36 pm)Michael wrote The promotion livery looks decent, is it on both sides?, wonder if Stagecoach will have one?

Yes, it's on both sides. S813 FVK will be happy too, as it's another one with feature symbols added (we're getting there - slowly but surely!)

Doubtful that Stagecoach will have one. Think their last partnership livery was 20724, done up in a special livery to promote Sun FM? Some 9 years ago! I bet Greg in Weardale prefers Go North East's version...

[Image: 3788982237_f6b7a300ee.jpg]Stagecoach: 20724 K724DAO Volvo B10M/Alexander PS by emdjt42, on Flickr


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2017 - Michael - 20 Apr 2017

(20 Apr 2017, 5:46 pm)Dan wrote Yes, it's on both sides. S813 FVK will be happy too, as it's another one with feature symbols added (we're getting there - slowly but surely!)

Doubtful that Stagecoach will have one. Think their last partnership livery was 20724, done up in a special livery to promote Sun FM? Some 9 years ago! I bet Greg in Weardale prefers Go North East's version...

[Image: 3788982237_f6b7a300ee.jpg]Stagecoach: 20724 K724DAO Volvo B10M/Alexander PS by emdjt42, on Flickr


I remember those buses, they were quite high up, its on my local service too, i quite like that promotion livery.


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2017 - JP6004 - 20 Apr 2017

(20 Apr 2017, 1:11 am)GX03 wrote 5235 has now moved to Stanley.

Be nice to see omnis back on the X70/X71. Still miss West Durham Swift brand though

Here's holding out for the 13,14,15.......Maybe X25 too  Big Grin


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2017 - S813 FVK - 20 Apr 2017

(20 Apr 2017, 5:46 pm)Dan wrote Yes, it's on both sides. S813 FVK will be happy too, as it's another one with feature symbols added (we're getting there - slowly but surely!)

Indeed! As 5324 is the only bus so far in the full corporate livery (excluding the 'The 49' examples), I am willing to let the others go for now Tongue although 5324 doesn't have the WiFi symbol yet.   

However, I appear spy the NSA symbol on 5439 and no plug socket symbol. As NSAs are not guaranteed on every service that it can be allocated to (although this number is increasing), I would personally avoid applying this symbol to the spare buses. This is the reason why I am against the applying of this symbol to 6099 although it makes sense to have done so, given that SunFM have recorded NSAs for Go North East.

Moving on, do you know why 6133 did not gain new logos? Did it happen to be VOR when Stanley depot was done meaning it was unable to be accessed or is there another reason? 5248 and 5249 still need new logos too but this is more down to transferring in after Stanley was done.


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2017 - Dan - 20 Apr 2017

(20 Apr 2017, 6:21 pm)S813 FVK wrote Indeed! As 5324 is the only bus so far in the full corporate livery (excluding the 'The 49' examples), I am willing to let the others go for now Tongue although 5324 doesn't have the WiFi symbol yet.   

However, I appear spy the NSA symbol on 5439 and no plug socket symbol. As NSAs are not guaranteed on every service that it can be allocated to (although this number is increasing), I would personally avoid applying this symbol to the spare buses. This is the reason why I am against the applying of this symbol to 6099 although it makes sense to have done so, given that SunFM have recorded NSAs for Go North East.

Moving on, do you know why 6133 did not gain new logos? Did it happen to be VOR when Stanley depot was done meaning it was unable to be accessed or is there another reason? 5248 and 5249 still need new logos too but this is more down to transferring in after Stanley was done.

Not too sure why the power socket symbol was missed off - but some would suggest it's not a bad thing that it's been missed off, given that the sockets can't exactly be relied on, on Streetlites! Undecided

The Next Stop Announcement symbol should definitely be there - especially given that almost every service at Deptford will have Next Stop Announcements programmed shortly. I notice this symbol is missing from the new Venture timetables...  Rolleyes

A handful of buses were off the road at the time that the branding company went into the depot to strip the old logo from buses and replace with the new logo. This didn't apply to 6133 - I think this one was missed as the logo will have to be scaled slightly larger than the standard size. The ones which were missed, including vans, are due to be caught over the next week or two. All of the new corporate liveried buses which don't have yellow taglines and feature symbols are due to receive them at the same time. Fingers crossed!


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2017 - Michael - 20 Apr 2017

(20 Apr 2017, 6:27 pm)Dan wrote Not too sure why the power socket symbol was missed off - but some would suggest it's not a bad thing that it's been missed off, given that the sockets can't exactly be relied on, on Streetlites! Undecided

The Next Stop Announcement symbol should definitely be there - especially given that almost every service at Deptford will have Next Stop Announcements programmed shortly. I notice this symbol is missing from the new Venture timetables...  Rolleyes

A handful of buses were off the road at the time that the branding company went into the depot to strip the old logo from buses and replace with the new logo. This didn't apply to 6133 - I think this one was missed as the logo will have to be scaled slightly larger than the standard size. The ones which were missed, including vans, are due to be caught over the next week or two. All of the new corporate liveried buses which don't have yellow taglines and feature symbols are due to receive them at the same time. Fingers crossed!

Will the Solo's on the 238 and the Scania's on the 39 get them?


I take it the Citaro's at Deptford are going for refurbishment?, i do hope those 18 Streetlites are for the 2/2A and the 61 Tongue


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2017 - Dan - 20 Apr 2017

(20 Apr 2017, 6:39 pm)Michael wrote Will the Solo's on the 238 and the Scania's on the 39 get them?

I take it the Citaro's at Deptford are going for refurbishment?

I said almost!

Speaking of refurbishments - 5277 returned to Go North East this afternoon, with 5296 going in the opposite direction. Painted in Citylink57 blue, rather than the expected black, and 5282 will be painted black instead of blue.


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2017 - Venturego - 20 Apr 2017

(20 Apr 2017, 6:07 pm)JP6004 wrote Be nice to see omnis back on the X70/X71. Still miss West Durham Swift brand though

Here's holding out for the 13,14,15.......Maybe X25 too  Big Grin

I Don't think Toonlink" brand will be here to stay -Looks dated and amatuerish (imo) - I guess it's a temporary/stop gap move to utilise 12/12A Omnicities with those already at Stanley until new buses or better quality cascades come on to these routes. Omnidekkas to make up PVR for the time being (Some interiors are dreadful although performance is OK)

I agree Swift was a good brand, as it could also imply Express service, although branding could be better executed (I would suggest in the same style as Red Kite) I also in the past suggested "Magpie" executed in a similar bird imagery style (like Red Kite on a Red or "Sky"base to avoid Black & White Football link) when there seemed to be a need for a connection to destination. Magpie would also work as a tenuous link, with it connecting to the Durham Diamond at Stanley (completing the previous through Diamond service from Newcastle to Durham 43/44)


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2017 - Michael - 20 Apr 2017

(20 Apr 2017, 6:44 pm)Dan wrote I said almost!

Speaking of refurbishments - 5277 returned to Go North East this afternoon, with 5296 going in the opposite direction. Painted in Citylink57 blue, rather than the expected black, and 5282 will be painted black instead of blue.

Why though?


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2017 - citaro5284 - 20 Apr 2017

(20 Apr 2017, 6:57 pm)Michael wrote Why though?

Question time has finished for tonight  Tongue


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2017 - JP6004 - 20 Apr 2017

(20 Apr 2017, 6:50 pm)Venturego wrote I Don't think Toonlink" brand will be here to stay -Looks dated and amatuerish (imo) - I guess it's a temporary/stop gap move to utilise 12/12A Omnicities with those already at Stanley until new buses or better quality cascades come on to these routes. Omnidekkas to make up PVR for the time being (Some interiors are dreadful although performance is OK)

I agree Swift was a good brand, as it could also imply Express service, although branding could be better executed (I would suggest in the same style as Red Kite) I also in the past suggested "Magpie" executed in a similar bird imagery style (like Red Kite on a Red or "Sky"base to avoid Black & White Football link) when there seemed to be a need for a connection to destination. Magpie would also work as a tenuous link, with it connecting to the Durham Diamond at Stanley (completing the previous through Diamond service from Newcastle to Durham 43/44)

I thought it looked very smart when 1st dome especially with the cityscape. I had thought if the Ten was getting new deckers in the new financial year that the B9s would cascade down to these services. I guess this wont be happening now.


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - April 2017 - Ben C - 20 Apr 2017

(20 Apr 2017, 6:57 pm)Michael wrote Why though?

I think they've been sent back with the wrong registrations.

(20 Apr 2017, 6:44 pm)Dan wrote I said almost!

Speaking of refurbishments - 5277 returned to Go North East this afternoon, with 5296 going in the opposite direction. Painted in Citylink57 blue, rather than the expected black, and 5282 will be painted black instead of blue.

Sure the wrong registrations have not been applied?