(14 Jul 2014, 10:08 pm)AdamY wrote I've always been against this idea as well as the other proposed P&R site at Lobley Hill.

I just can't fathom how it will decrease congestion unless, as Aureolin notes, drivers are somehow forced into using the site. If anything, extra congestion will be created as motorists queue on the A1 in order to access the site.

I've always thought that Follingsby Park would make a good P&R site. It's conveniently located near to the Leamside Line and the Metro could be extended to accommodate motorists offering a quick service into either Gateshead or Newcastle.

(15 Jul 2014, 6:16 am)Andreos Constantopolous wrote Desperately trying to think of positives but cant.
The last mention of it on the forum, confirmed that the facility wouldn't have its own vehicles, but would rely on service buses such as the 21 calling in.
Hopefully that has changed.

(15 Jul 2014, 7:40 pm)aureolin wrote Completely agree about Follingsby, and it looks to be on the radar. I found this document which details those two and another site on Dunston Hill.

https://www.gateshead.gov.uk/DocumentLibrary/Building/PlanningPolicy/CIL/DOCS/NewcastleGateshead-One-Core-Strategy-Infrastructure-Delivery-Plan-Schedule.pdf

(15 Jul 2014, 8:40 pm)gtom wrote As of yesterday that position hasn't changed.

The logic to me is flawed and I apologise if I'm repeating others points.

The Bypass is already busy from when the A1(M) ends. The site is already in the mix. If you are heading to Newcastle, why bother beating congestion when its only another 6 miles to the City Centre? Newcastle is not like Durham, it has more than 1 route into the City.

Adding passenger numbers to a service like the 21 which already struggles to keep time and reliability and sending more buses along a choked Durham Road is not and never will be a good idea

(15 Jul 2014, 8:55 pm)AdamY wrote I believe I've read that document before as I asked to help formulate some sort of response on behalf of an interested party.

Follingsby Park is the only sensible option in my view. It lies just off the A194(M) and is close enough to the A19 for even more accessibility. If constructing a new Metro link is not an option, then perhaps a frequent heavy-rail service between Follingsby Park and Metrocentre (calling in at Heworth, Newcastle, Dunston and a new station at Gateshead Quays) might provide better value for money.

(15 Jul 2014, 9:13 pm)Andreos Constantopolous wrote A cheaper alternative could be to utilise the bus lanes on the approach to Heworth.

(15 Jul 2014, 9:21 pm)AdamY wrote True.

But then bus-lanes would need to created after Heworth Metro in order to reach either Gateshead or Newcastle.

Personally, I don't see the point in going to a P&R facility at Follingsby in order to get a bus to Heworth and transfer onto either a train or Metro. I can't see it being a hit with other motorists either.

(15 Jul 2014, 7:59 pm)NEBCD Malarkey wrote Slight change of Subject, Just been scrolling through the Document, Looking at Page 3

Ref: T20 - New Bus Facility - £7m - John Dobson Street/Durrant Road

Could this be for a New Bus Station in Newcastle City Centre.

(15 Jul 2014, 9:26 pm)Andreos Constantopolous wrote Yeah, it would need extending beyond Heworth - but that shouldn't be beyond the wit of man or Gateshead Council.
They have stacks of white paint hidden away in the Shearlegs Road depot (enough to get the roads painted/segregated several times in just a few years), unless it all got used up on Durham Road?

As for the multiple changes - why not? GNE built their model on a similar system

(15 Jul 2014, 9:44 pm)AdamY wrote It'll take more than the stacks of white paint hidden away at the Shearlegs Road depot.

I'm vehemently against the approach of converting dual carriageways to one lane thoroughfares to accommodate bus lanes as it tends to cause congestion elsewhere through bottlenecking. If a bus-lane was created between Heworth and Gateshead, it really needs to be constructed alongside the existing road infrastructure.

So unless Gateshead Council have vast amounts of tarmac and paving stored at Shearlegs Road, then can take their white paint and....

(23 Jan 2015, 12:53 pm)gtom wrote Funding has now been secured for this wonderful idea.........

(10 Aug 2015, 5:26 pm)Malarkey wrote Has been any updates recently on the potential P&R Sites at Eighton Lodge & Follingsby Park?

(09 Feb 2016, 12:42 pm)citaro5284 wrote Park and Ride is now approved

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/gateshead-council-meeting-recap-angel-10860988

(09 Feb 2016, 2:58 pm)Andreos1 wrote I wonder if the expected income would be enhanced by tendering an express bus service?

As it stands it is an out of town car park as opposed to a park & ride.
I have seen nothing that states those parking at the facility would be better off rather than utlising spaces in Low Fell, Gateshead or Newcastle.

At least facilities in Durham and York offer the incentive of dedicated buses and integrated fares.

(09 Feb 2016, 2:58 pm)Andreos1 wrote I wonder if the expected income would be enhanced by tendering an express bus service?

As it stands it is an out of town car park as opposed to a park & ride.
I have seen nothing that states those parking at the facility would be better off rather than utlising spaces in Low Fell, Gateshead or Newcastle.

At least facilities in Durham and York offer the incentive of dedicated buses and integrated fares.

(09 Feb 2016, 7:27 pm)Adrian wrote This scheme is massively presumptuous of the council. Almost a 'Park and nee Ride'. 

At this rate, there'd be nothing to stop the council blowing £8 million on the scheme, only for operators to stop serving the closest stops to the site. It'd then leave the council with a car park in the middle of nowhere. 

They're half expecting an operator to take on the commercial risk, but I don't know how they could expect that, when they'll have no figures or forecast? The word I keep hearing is 'hope', which I'm sure you'll agree is a lot different to 'fact'. I honestly can't see many motorists taking up a car parking fee and then a return fare to the town. It's a 30 minute bus journey plus a maximum wait of 8 minutes (during the day) for the bus.

(09 Feb 2016, 7:39 pm)BusLoverMum wrote Having that there will do nothing to change our usual park and ride spot, which is Heworth Metro. If we're going to trundle up Durham road on the 21, we'd rather catch it at Durham!

And surely it'd be more useful if a service to the metrocentre was laid on?

(23 Feb 2016, 8:11 pm)Michael wrote Is this the same one?

Angel of the North park and ride: Everything you need to know about the scheme

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/angel-north-park-ride-everything-10875695#ICID=sharebar_facebook