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Go North East: 2016/17 Financial Year Order Predictions - JP6004 - 04 Apr 2016
Good thinkin Michael
RE: Go North East: 2016/17 Financial Year Order Predictions - JP6004 - 04 Apr 2016
Revised Prediction:
Should this now be the 2016-2017 order prediction Smile
Anyway for the coming financial year:
10 Streetlite for 49s
14 Streetlite for 2/2A (1 spare
17 Streetdeck for 21
6 Streetdeck for X9/X10
10 Blaydon Racer mercs displaced to Deptford for X35
13 versa displaced to washy for 82/A, 85 & 86 (1 spare)
15 B5H displaced to Deptford for 35/36 or some to Stanley for 6/X70/X71 & rest to Hexham for X84/X85
6 B9s displaced into spare role for 21/X21 and 309/310
RE: Go North East: 2016/17 Financial Year Order Predictions - Michael - 04 Apr 2016
(04 Apr 2016, 9:23 pm)JP6004 wrote Revised Prediction:
Should this now be the 2016-2017 order prediction Smile
Anyway for the coming financial year:
10 Streetlite for 49s
14 Streetlite for 2/2A (1 spare
17 Streetdeck for 21
6 Streetdeck for X9/X10
10 Blaydon Racer mercs displaced to Deptford for X35
13 versa displaced to washy for 82/A, 85 & 86 (1 spare)
15 B5H displaced to Deptford for 35/36 or some to Stanley for 6/X70/X71 & rest to Hexham for X84/X85
6 B9d mercs displaced into spare role for 21/X21 and 309/310
My predictions:
10 Streetlites for the Green Arrow
10 Streetlites for the 88/88A
19 Streetdecks for the 21
13 Solo's for the 82/82A/85/86
Cascades:
10 Scania's to replace B10's
6 Versa's from the 88/88A to the Waggonway
2 to Crook for the 18
15 B5LH to the 27
13 Citaro's to the 2/2A
3962/3965 to Percy Main
RE: Go North East: 2016/17 Financial Year Order Predictions - JP6004 - 04 Apr 2016
(04 Apr 2016, 9:50 pm)Michael wrote My predictions:
10 Streetlites for the Green Arrow
10 Streetlites for the 88/88A
19 Streetdecks for the 21
13 Solo's for the 82/82A/85/86
Cascades:
10 Scania's to replace B10's
6 Versa's from the 88/88A to the Waggonway
2 to Crook for the 18
15 B5LH to the 27
13 Citaro's to the 2/2A
3962/3965 to Percy Main
Where the mercs come from
RE: Go North East: 2016/17 Financial Year Order Predictions - South Tyne Lad - 04 Apr 2016
12x Optare Solo SR Indigo : Washington for Services 82/82A/982/85/86 ( All Branded, 1 Spare for all routes )
11x Optare Metrocity 11.5m South Tyne : Riverside for Services 88/88A, 2 Spares
20x Wright Streetdeck's Angel : Chester-Le-Street 3 Spares with atleast 1 available for X21 Cover. ( I just wish they'd order Euro 6 B5LH's )
Optare Solo SR Indigo Washington
85/86 All 6 Washington MPDs Withdrawn, With the Spare for Indigo being the spare Solo, Or a Volvo B7TL / Plaxton President if the spare Solo is already out.
82/82A/83/982 All 7 Cadets/Merits Withdrawn, with the Spare being the Spare Solo, Or a Volvo B7TL / Plaxton President if the spare Solo is already out.
All 12 will contain Wifi, NSAs and E-Leather Civic V3s
Optare Metrocity South Tyne Riverside
88/88A 9 Branded Optare Metrocity's, The 8 Versa's will be reallocated to Percy Main for Service 17, Replacing 8 Volvo B10BLEs, The former allocated Scania L94UB will replace a B10BLE at Riverside.
All 11 Metrocity's will have Wifi, NSAs , Plug Sockets , and E-Leather Civic V3s
9 Branded, 2 Red Spare.
20x Wright Streetdeck Chester-Le-Street
21/N21 18 Branded Streetdeck's, 2 Red Spare. 6056-6070 all reallocated to Riverside for Toon Link Services 12/12A and Crusader Service 27.
All 20 Stretdeck's will have Wifi , NSAs , Plug Sockets and E-Leather Civic V3s, Though will not contain tables due to the busy nature of the 21.
Not a full detailed prediction, Though its about time my route got some decent buses
I'm very impressed with Indigo and the Next-Gen Solos and would like to see that continue for other MPD routes.
RE: Go North East: 2016/17 Financial Year Order Predictions - Michael - 04 Apr 2016
(04 Apr 2016, 9:56 pm)JP6004 wrote Where the mercs come from
From the 27, which will get the buses from the Angel.
RE: Go North East: 2016/17 Financial Year Order Predictions - Michael - 04 Apr 2016
South Tyne, the Cadets should be going when the Prince Bishop streetlites enter service, same as the duel door B10's.
RE: Go North East: 2016/17 Financial Year Order Predictions - Davie - 04 Apr 2016
(04 Apr 2016, 9:50 pm)Michael wrote My predictions:
10 Streetlites for the Green Arrow
10 Streetlites for the 88/88A
19 Streetdecks for the 21
13 Solo's for the 82/82A/85/86
Cascades:
6 Versa's from the 88/88A to the Waggonway
I can't see Versa's being allocated to the 28/28A, I don't think they'd last 5 minutes! I think Citaro's would be ideal for the Waggonway service's.
RE: Go North East: 2016/17 Financial Year Order Predictions - biglugs@yahoo.com - 04 Apr 2016
(04 Apr 2016, 10:04 pm)Davie wrote I can't see Versa's being allocated to the 28/28A, I don't think they'd last 5 minutes! I think Citaro's would be ideal for the Waggonway service's.
Put 5229-33 on. Best solars
RE: Go North East: 2016/17 Financial Year Order Predictions - Davie - 04 Apr 2016
(04 Apr 2016, 10:06 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com wrote Put 5229-33 on. Best solars
In my opinion, the 28/28A could do with getting brand new vehicle's.
RE: Go North East: 2016/17 Financial Year Order Predictions - JP6004 - 04 Apr 2016
(04 Apr 2016, 10:08 pm)Davie wrote In my opinion, the 28/28A could do with getting brand new vehicle's.
I agree although could easily get cascaded mercs. Would like nice as Waggonway in same colour as X7
RE: Go North East: 2016/17 Financial Year Order Predictions - Ambassador - 04 Apr 2016
(04 Apr 2016, 10:08 pm)Davie wrote In my opinion, the 28/28A could do with getting brand new vehicle's.
I don't think they've ever had new vehicles on them. When the Omnicites first arrived at Stanley they ended up on the 709/728, about as close to new as you'll get on the route.
Can't imagine it's a priority for GNE. Just look at how long it took for the deadly DAFs to go.
Imagine the Angel will get a rebrand too, it won't be 'green' as such anymore!
RE: Go North East: 2016/17 Financial Year Order Predictions - Davie - 04 Apr 2016
(04 Apr 2016, 10:18 pm)Ambassador wrote I don't think they've ever had new vehicles on them. When the Omnicites first arrived at Stanley they ended up on the 709/728, about as close to new as you'll get on the route.
Can't imagine it's a priority for GNE. Just look at how long it took for the deadly DAFs to go.
Imagine the Angel will get a rebrand too, it won't be 'green' as such anymore!
Iirc, the last time they received new vehicle's was when the Prestige's were bought in 1998!
RE: Go North East: 2016/17 Financial Year Order Predictions - Ambassador - 04 Apr 2016
(04 Apr 2016, 10:20 pm)Davie wrote Iirc, the last time they received new vehicle's was when the Prestige's were bought in 1998!
Weren't they second hand too. Ex Airport stuff? Don't think the 28s were around in 98. Would have been the 733,709,728,721 mix then
RE: Go North East: 2016/17 Financial Year Order Predictions - South Tyne Lad - 04 Apr 2016
(04 Apr 2016, 10:26 pm)Ambassador wrote Weren't they second hand too. Ex Airport stuff? Don't think the 28s were around in 98. Would have been the 733,709,728,721 mix then
Yeah they were ex Airport Shuttles, One of the London Airports I think though I cant remember which one. I wasn't even born then!
RE: Go North East: 2016/17 Financial Year Order Predictions - Davie - 04 Apr 2016
(04 Apr 2016, 10:26 pm)Ambassador wrote Weren't they second hand too. Ex Airport stuff? Don't think the 28s were around in 98. Would have been the 733,709,728,721 mix then
Yeah they were second hand. Service 28 would have been the 721 iirc.
RE: Go North East: 2016/17 Financial Year Order Predictions - Andreos1 - 04 Apr 2016
(04 Apr 2016, 10:18 pm)Ambassador wrote
I don't think they've ever had new vehicles on them. When the Omnicites first arrived at Stanley they ended up on the 709/728, about as close to new as you'll get on the route.
Can't imagine it's a priority for GNE. Just look at how long it took for the deadly DAFs to go.
Imagine the Angel will get a rebrand too, it won't be 'green' as such anymore!
Gonna take a stab in th dark and say the Delta's. Think the Gxxx RTY batch were allocated for a period for the 709/728.
RE: Go North East: 2016/17 Financial Year Order Predictions - Jimmi - 04 Apr 2016
(04 Apr 2016, 10:36 pm)South Tyne Lad wrote Yeah they were ex Airport Shuttles, One of the London Airports I think though I cant remember which one. I wasn't even born then!Heathrow, I think.
RE: Go North East: 2016/17 Financial Year Order Predictions - Andreos1 - 04 Apr 2016
(04 Apr 2016, 10:38 pm)Davie wrote Yeah they were second hand. Service 28 would have been the 721 iirc.
More than the 721 Davie lad.
There was about 3 routes merged together when they created the 28.
Chester - Strange Villa.
Strange Villa - Eighton Lodge.
Eighton Lodge - Newcastle. (The only bit in common with the 721).
RE: Go North East: 2016/17 Financial Year Order Predictions - Tom - 04 Apr 2016
The green arrow could be next in line for investment I think - the Solars on there are some of the worst so possibly some Streetlites for them.
Angel is also a good shout and then the B5s can go on either the Coaster or Crusader releasing the Citaros for the Tynedale Express, Cats Fast X35 and Waggonway.
Can also see the 2s getting new buses as the Versas on there are deffo some of the worst - Versas could then possibly go on the 82 and 82A or if enough also the 85 and 86.Solos wouldn't be big enough for the 82s I don't think.
Then finally maybe a couple of Solos for the 18 to get rid of the MPDs. Wouldn't be many left if Versas also replaced them on the 85/86.
RE: Go North East: 2016/17 Financial Year Order Predictions - Davie - 04 Apr 2016
(04 Apr 2016, 10:46 pm)Andreos1 wrote More than the 721 Davie lad.
There was about 3 routes merged together when they created the 28.
Chester - Strange Villa.
Strange Villa - Eighton Lodge.
Eighton Lodge - Newcastle. (The only bit in common with the 721).
Just off the top of my head, wasn't there the 721, 722, 725, 726, 728, 729, 777? Possible even a couple more.
RE: Go North East: 2016/17 Financial Year Order Predictions - Michael - 04 Apr 2016
(04 Apr 2016, 10:49 pm)Tom wrote The green arrow could be next in line for investment I think - the Solars on there are some of the worst so possibly some Streetlites for them.
Angel is also a good shout and then the B5s can go on either the Coaster or Crusader releasing the Citaros for the Tynedale Express, Cats Fast X35 and Waggonway.
Can also see the 2s getting new buses as the Versas on there are deffo some of the worst - Versas could then possibly go on the 82 and 82A or if enough also the 85 and 86.Solos wouldn't be big enough for the 82s I don't think.
Then finally maybe a couple of Solos for the 18 to get rid of the MPDs. Wouldn't be many left if Versas also replaced them on the 85/86.
Where would the Omnicties go from the Coaster?
RE: Go North East: 2016/17 Financial Year Order Predictions - Jimmi - 04 Apr 2016
(04 Apr 2016, 10:55 pm)Michael wrote Where would the Omnicties go from the Coaster?If that happened, you could probably go: Waggonway, Fast Cats then whatever with the remaining examples.
Can't see them going on the 1.
Just me who wouldn't be totally surprised if the Volvo B5LH's stayed on the 21?
RE: Go North East: 2016/17 Financial Year Order Predictions - Andreos1 - 04 Apr 2016
(04 Apr 2016, 10:51 pm)Davie wrote Just off the top of my head, wasn't there the 721, 722, 725, 726, 728, 729, 777? Possible even a couple more.
Loads more 7xx services.
Off the top of my head - along Durham and Old Durham Road you had the 709, 723, 733 and 735. Also the 231.
There was also the OK 724 and 727.
United had the X46 in addition to their shared services.
RE: Go North East: 2016/17 Financial Year Order Predictions - Ambassador - 04 Apr 2016
(04 Apr 2016, 10:58 pm)Jimmi wrote Just me who wouldn't be totally surprised if the Volvo B5LH's stayed on the 21?
No I'm with you on that, but they need a refurb and they sound absolutely awful.
The 21 is impossible to get wrong...a decent reliable double decker and a decent weekend frequency. I say impossible, until the Hybrids, GNE did a fantastic job of hugely screwing it up
RE: Go North East: 2016/17 Financial Year Order Predictions - Michael - 04 Apr 2016
(04 Apr 2016, 10:58 pm)Jimmi wrote If that happened, you could probably go: Waggonway, Fast Cats then whatever with the remaining examples.
Can't see them going on the 1.
Just me who wouldn't be totally surprised if the Volvo B5LH's stayed on the 21?
To me, the Omnicities wouldn't be able cope on the X35.
Edit: Wrong word!
RE: Go North East: 2016/17 Financial Year Order Predictions - Andreos1 - 04 Apr 2016
(04 Apr 2016, 11:02 pm)Michael wrote To me, the Omnicities couldn't cope on the X35.
Stick them on the 21
RE: Go North East: 2016/17 Financial Year Order Predictions - Michael - 04 Apr 2016
(04 Apr 2016, 11:01 pm)Ambassador wrote No I'm with you on that, but they need a refurb and they sound absolutely awful.
The 21 is impossible to get wrong...a decent reliable double decker and a decent weekend frequency. I say impossible, until the Hybrids, GNE did a fantastic job of hugely screwing it up
The 21 needs Streetdecks
RE: Go North East: 2016/17 Financial Year Order Predictions - Jimmi - 04 Apr 2016
(04 Apr 2016, 11:02 pm)Michael wrote To me, the Omnicities couldn't cope on the X35.I think they would do fine on the X35, wouldn't be any worse than the Solar's currently used on the X35.
RE: Go North East: 2016/17 Financial Year Order Predictions - Michael - 04 Apr 2016
(04 Apr 2016, 11:03 pm)Andreos1 wrote Stick them on the 21
, why not.. Its not like they coped the last time! Edited my last post.. Used the wrong words.