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South Tyneside/Sunderland Service Changes - KingSlayerRBLX - 30 Jun 2022

So i had a thought to what the 24's allocation will be.
We'll either have the Violet Citaros that are coming off the 55 if they do not go on the Blue branding
or typical Streetlites.

I wonder if the 24 will get branding in the future obviously when GNE have the money and time to do it


RE: Route 24 - Aaron21 - 30 Jun 2022

(30 Jun 2022, 1:05 pm)KingSlayerRBLX wrote So i had a thought to what the 24's allocation will be.
We'll either have the Violet Citaros that are coming off the 55 if they do not go on the Blue branding
or typical Streetlites.

I wonder if the 24 will get branding in the future obviously when GNE have the money and time to do it
Interwork with the 26 I think


RE: Route 24 - Unber43 - 30 Jun 2022

(30 Jun 2022, 1:05 pm)KingSlayerRBLX wrote So i had a thought to what the 24's allocation will be.
We'll either have the Violet Citaros that are coming off the 55 if they do not go on the Blue branding
or typical Streetlites.

I wonder if the 24 will get branding in the future obviously when GNE have the money and time to do it
I think its gonna interwork with the 5 & 26, with the 24 & 26 only on evenings. With the 5 & 9 interworking on Evenings. 

Then on a Evening the 5&9&60&61 will all interwork. 

It is possible that the 5&9 will just stayed interworked as it does now but with the 24 every 15 mins I really see that interworking with the 5&26


RE: Route 24 - Storx - 30 Jun 2022

No-one has a clue. There's a lot of rumours turning into facts here like.


RE: Route 24 - KingSlayerRBLX - 30 Jun 2022

(30 Jun 2022, 1:26 pm)Unber43 wrote I think its gonna interwork with the 5 & 26, with the 24 & 26 only on evenings. With the 5 & 9 interworking on Evenings. 

Then on a Evening the 5&9&60&61 will all interwork. 

It is possible that the 5&9 will just stayed interworked as it does now but with the 24 every 15 mins I really see that interworking with the 5&26
So that would mean the 26 would move to Deptford. so if that happens the 50 will become solo?


RE: Route 24 - deanmachine - 30 Jun 2022

(30 Jun 2022, 3:46 pm)KingSlayerRBLX wrote So that would mean the 26 would move to Deptford. so if that happens the 50 will become solo?

Yes the 26 is moving to Deptford.


RE: Route 24 - KingSlayerRBLX - 30 Jun 2022

(30 Jun 2022, 3:47 pm)deanmachine wrote Yes the 26 is moving to Deptford.
Didn't expect to hear that. Would be nicer at Percy Main and have a few rare workings.
July 24th is gonna be a very interesting day


RE: Route 24 - Unber43 - 30 Jun 2022

(30 Jun 2022, 3:46 pm)KingSlayerRBLX wrote So that would mean the 26 would move to Deptford. so if that happens the 50 will become solo?
Yes it would. 

I believe with the 50 changes it will add extra time on the route so it wouldn't have a 20 min layover in Shields. And the 50 would become double decker operated
Hopefully people will use the 50 if they need to get to Sheilds, especially since the 20 isn't going to Sheilds anymore


Route 24 - cbma06 - 30 Jun 2022

(30 Jun 2022, 3:46 pm)KingSlayerRBLX wrote So that would mean the 26 would move to Deptford. so if that happens the 50 will become solo?


I think the 50 on Sundays be doing the short x20


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RE: Route 24 - KingSlayerRBLX - 30 Jun 2022

(30 Jun 2022, 3:59 pm)cbma06 wrote I think the 50 on Sundays be doing the short x20


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Yes, i think Dan said in the changes thread that the X20 would be operated by Washington on Sundays.
So it will do the Langley and Durham run then do the 50 Durham to Marsden run

(30 Jun 2022, 3:58 pm)Unber43 wrote Yes it would. 

I believe with the 50 changes it will add extra time on the route so it wouldn't have a 20 min layover in Shields. And the 50 would become double decker operated
Hopefully people will use the 50 if they need to get to Sheilds, especially since the 20 isn't going to Sheilds anymore
It will become so busy in the next few weeks. past experiances on the Omnicity it would be filled after Concord so hopefully the Streetdecks will do a good job. They suit the route which i cant lie.


RE: Route 24 - Acky81 - 30 Jun 2022

Would make sense just to keep the violet buses as 24/26 branding. Just change the destinations and therefore save another repaint


RE: Route 24 - Unber43 - 30 Jun 2022

(30 Jun 2022, 4:08 pm)Acky81 wrote Would make sense just to keep the violet buses as 24/26 branding. Just change the destinations and therefore save another repaint
There isn't enough, you would need 5 just for the 24.


RE: Route 24 - F114TML - 30 Jun 2022

(30 Jun 2022, 4:08 pm)Acky81 wrote Would make sense just to keep the violet buses as 24/26 branding. Just change the destinations and therefore save another repaint
Probably also should change the name, given the 26 doesn't go to Sunderland, or anywhere near it Wink


RE: Route 24 - Acky81 - 30 Jun 2022

Aww yeah forgot the stupid Sunderland and district branding


RE: Route 24 - Unber43 - 30 Jun 2022

(30 Jun 2022, 4:14 pm)Acky81 wrote Aww yeah forgot the stupid Sunderland and district branding
I think we can say S&D Branding was a utter failure. 

What a waste of money


Route 24 - cbma06 - 30 Jun 2022

(30 Jun 2022, 4:19 pm)Unber43 wrote I think we can say S&D Branding was a utter failure. 

What a waste of money


Hopefully the start of dropping the pointless Sunderland and district rainbow colours brands



I wonder if the 61 will gain the 55 violets citarios ?


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RE: Route 24 - Unber43 - 30 Jun 2022

(30 Jun 2022, 4:28 pm)cbma06 wrote Hopefully the start of dropping the pointless Sunderland and district rainbow colours brands



I wonder if the 61 will gain the 55 violets citarios ?


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With the Small Bus Rota losing X6(presumably)/62/X20), I wonder if the 61 will be operated by Solo's.


Route 24 - cbma06 - 30 Jun 2022

(30 Jun 2022, 4:30 pm)Unber43 wrote With the Small Bus Rota losing X6(presumably)/62/X20), I wonder if the 61 will be operated by Solo's.


Can’t see passengers from murton on a half hourly service to Sunderland crammed onto solo’s

I think the x6 still be solos as I think there be inter worked with Peterlee local services


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RE: Route 24 - Storx - 30 Jun 2022

(30 Jun 2022, 4:28 pm)cbma06 wrote Hopefully the start of dropping the pointless Sunderland and district rainbow colours brands



I wonder if the 61 will gain the 55 violets citarios ?


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Doubt it there's quite a few Streetlite's going spare.

The ones off the 50, as I assume that'll be Streetdeck operated, some off the 78 extension being curtailed, some from the 12 frequency reduction - possibly opportunity for one of those to be ran by the numerous Versa's doing nothing from the 25/28/29 (potentially).

Also it depends on what is operating what. The 5/26 could easily be Solo operated and work independent like they did for years under the South Tyne Versa's, or those themselves use the Versa's leaving the short based Streetlites for the 61 - it's all just rumours and guesswork the 5/24/26 are interworking.

Not to mention there's electrics due which no doubt will see Versa's / B9's off, I'm guessing the Q3 or 58 will be the route for them since the 57 isn't running in evening anymore.


RE: Route 24 - F114TML - 30 Jun 2022

(30 Jun 2022, 4:30 pm)Unber43 wrote With the Small Bus Rota losing X6(presumably)/62/X20), I wonder if the 61 will be operated by Solo's.
Hope not. Was on a solo on the 61 today (off-peak) and it got a bit busy (the previous two had been cancelled but still).


RE: Route 24 - Unber43 - 30 Jun 2022

(30 Jun 2022, 4:40 pm)Storx wrote Doubt it there's quite a few Streetlite's going spare.

The ones off the 50, as I assume that'll be Streetdeck operated, some off the 78 extension being curtailed, some from the 12 frequency reduction - possibly opportunity for one of those to be ran by the numerous Versa's doing nothing from the 25/28/29 (potentially).

Also it depends on what is operating what. The 5/26 could easily be Solo operated and work independent like they did for years under the South Tyne Versa's, or those themselves use the Versa's leaving the short based Streetlites for the 61 - it's all just rumours and guesswork the 5/24/26 are interworking.

Not to mention there's electrics due which no doubt will see Versa's / B9's off, I'm guessing the Q3 or 58 will be the route for them since the 57 isn't running in evening anymore.
Q3 reliability of just a joke, 4 broke down in 2 days a couple weeks ago. 

78 now has the correct PVR + 1 spare, leaving 5401 to go. The 8 needs 2 Spare atleast there are always Versa's on that. 

You have the 5 Streetlites off the 50/26 then the 5 of the 20 + the ones which are on the 5/9. There should be some spare ones. The 26 couldn't work with solos it does get busy. 

The electric buses will either go onto the 58 or Q3. as you've said, but where would the B9's go? The Quay-City versas could be a good replacement for either the 61 or 35. B9's could go onto the X20 if the 58 where to get the electric buses with 2 going to Consett as spares aswell or stay at Riverside


RE: Route 24 - Drifter60 - 30 Jun 2022

It sort of would make *some* sense for the 61 to gain the Violet Citaros considering there’s no sign of the ‘Blue’ buses. However considering GNE have referred to it as the ‘S&D Blue 61’ on their website, timetables, social media, Google maps etc. it feels somewhat counterintuitive to change the colour. But if it’s easier loose blue or go violet, perhaps go violet - saves painting those Citaros yet again! The 61 remains a PVR of 4 I believe, despite the extension to Peterlee as they’re dropping to every 30 minutes instead of 20 minutes.


RE: Route 24 - F114TML - 30 Jun 2022

(30 Jun 2022, 4:49 pm)Drifter60 wrote It sort of would make *some* sense for the 61 to gain the Violet Citaros considering there’s no sign of the ‘Blue’ buses. However considering GNE have referred to it as the ‘S&D Blue 61’ on their website, timetables, social media, Google maps etc. it feels somewhat counterintuitive to change the colour. But if it’s easier loose blue or go violet, perhaps go violet - saves painting those Citaros yet again! The 61 remains a PVR of 4 I believe, despite the extension to Peterlee as they’re dropping to every 30 minutes instead of 20 minutes.
Google has stopped referring to it as the Blue 61, which makes me think they're quietly dropping the brand
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Mind, it's never referred to the X-lines X9/X10 either. Wasn't really a massive fan of the Blue livery on paper anyway (although my view may have changed seeing it in the flesh).


RE: Route 24 - Jack Gill - 30 Jun 2022

(30 Jun 2022, 4:48 pm)Unber43 wrote The electric buses will either go onto the 58 or Q3. as you've said, but where would the B9's go? The Quay-City versas could be a good replacement for either the 61 or 35. B9's could go onto the X20 if the 58 where to get the electric buses with 2 going to Consett as spares aswell or stay at Riverside
Could they not potentially go onto the 6, with it being stand alone soon, and it can get busy at times.


RE: Route 24 - Unber43 - 30 Jun 2022

(30 Jun 2022, 5:04 pm)Jack Gill wrote Could they not potentially go onto the 6, with it being stand alone soon, and it can get busy at times.
Yeah, not a bad idea at all.


RE: Route 24 - Storx - 30 Jun 2022

(30 Jun 2022, 4:49 pm)Drifter60 wrote It sort of would make *some* sense for the 61 to gain the Violet Citaros considering there’s no sign of the ‘Blue’ buses. However considering GNE have referred to it as the ‘S&D Blue 61’ on their website, timetables, social media, Google maps etc. it feels somewhat counterintuitive to change the colour. But if it’s easier loose blue or go violet, perhaps go violet - saves painting those Citaros yet again! The 61 remains a PVR of 4 I believe, despite the extension to Peterlee as they’re dropping to every 30 minutes instead of 20 minutes.

Personally I think it'll be (numbers not necessary what's where but just for the allocations):

5411 - 5419 - 5/26
5420 - 5425 - 24
5426 - 5433 - 20
5434 - 5437 - 61
5438 - 5441 - Deptford Spares
8339 - 8343 - 9

5284 - 5290 - Withdrawn
Other Merc's - Cherry / Spare

6301 - 6306 - 50
5334 - 5336 - Washington Spares

Future:
New Electrics - Q3
5380 - 5388 - 35/35A
All 08/58 Plate Merc's - Withdrawn


RE: Route 24 - deanmachine - 30 Jun 2022

Why would the 5 and the 26 operate independently when there's 2 buses going from Sunderland to South Tyneside they can interwork with?


RE: Route 24 - KingSlayerRBLX - 30 Jun 2022

I Might aswell change this thread to South Tyneside/Sunderland Changes


RE: South Tyneside/Sunderland Service Changes - Unber43 - 30 Jun 2022

What buses will the 57 get?


RE: South Tyneside/Sunderland Service Changes - Jack Gill - 30 Jun 2022

Probably spare Streetlites from the changes or whatever buses are cascaded from whatever route gets the new electrics.