(19 Jul 2023, 1:21 pm)Storx wrote I'd imagine the railway line is the bigger problem for Northumbria. It's the sort of uncertainity that would put anyone off as it has the potential to cause all sorts of problems (or none at all).

(19 Jul 2023, 1:30 pm)Bazza wrote Although definitely to be seen as a threat, if you look around the area, bus services run next to other train and Metro services,  the Morpeth routes for example, and all the routes that run next to Metro lines.

(19 Jul 2023, 4:15 pm)RobinHood wrote Arriva is for sale as an entity, not individual businesses.

(19 Jul 2023, 4:15 pm)RobinHood wrote Arriva is for sale as an entity, not individual businesses.

(19 Jul 2023, 4:31 pm)Andreos1 wrote Haven't individual portions gone already?

(19 Jul 2023, 4:31 pm)Andreos1 wrote Haven't individual portions gone already?

(19 Jul 2023, 5:24 pm)Storx wrote Don't believe they've sold anything, just shut down some weak parts. Kent in particular.

(19 Jul 2023, 5:24 pm)Storx wrote Don't believe they've sold anything, just shut down some weak parts. Kent in particular.

(19 Jul 2023, 4:31 pm)Bazza wrote Is that just an assumption?    Surely that’s something only known at board level?

(19 Jul 2023, 9:29 pm)RobinHood wrote It's well known internally that DB intend to sell Arriva as a whole, not broken into chunks. The latter makes no sense to DB as the process would take a long time. They want completion by 2025. This information around the dates seems to corroborated in the below business news article from April.

https://www.proactiveinvestors.co.uk/companies/news/1011046/deutsche-bahn-renews-plans-to-offload-arriva-1011046.html

I understand that not only other companies may be interested, but also investment firms too. Arriva may even be 'spun-off' back into its own standalone business.

(20 Jul 2023, 5:58 am)busmanT wrote With the uncertainty around long term funding surrounding the UK bus industry, the post Covid passenger reduction, multiple areas talking about franchising services (where your business is confiscated), and the need for heavy investment in the fleet I can’t see anyone buying the UK bus business as a whole.

(20 Jul 2023, 9:49 am)Adrian wrote I suppose stranger things have happened. Both Go Ahead and Stagecoach sold last year, despite the market conditions not being much different and neither being publicly listed for sale. 

It does however raise the question of what is the issue with the Arriva business, if they can't seem to get any interest in it?

(10 Aug 2023, 5:54 pm)Bazza wrote I don’t claim to have any inside knowledge or indeed know enough about First, but there is a fairly persistent rumour amongst local Arriva staff that a deal has been done and First has bought, at minimum, Arriva Northumbria, with an announcement within the next few weeks.

This has been circulating since the beginning of July and refuses to die.

(10 Aug 2023, 5:54 pm)Bazza wrote I don’t claim to have any inside knowledge or indeed know enough about First, but there is a fairly persistent rumour amongst local Arriva staff that a deal has been done and First has bought, at minimum, Arriva Northumbria, with an announcement within the next few weeks.

This has been circulating since the beginning of July and refuses to die.

(10 Aug 2023, 7:28 pm)wibblejunior wrote GNE actually used to operate from the current Arriva depot in Ashington, before they sold it in exchange for Hexham depot during 2010 (I think?)

(10 Aug 2023, 6:32 pm)RobinHood wrote Absolutely not true. However, being unable to proove this (without repercussions), does mean that my reply holds as much weight as someone conversely saying the opposite.

All I will say is, bookmark this thread to come back to at Christmas and I guarantee nothing of the sort will have happened.

(10 Aug 2023, 6:32 pm)RobinHood wrote Absolutely not true. However, being unable to proove this (without repercussions), does mean that my reply holds as much weight as someone conversely saying the opposite.

All I will say is, bookmark this thread to come back to at Christmas and I guarantee nothing of the sort will have happened.

(10 Aug 2023, 11:07 pm)solsburian wrote You I think it is very unlikely, especially as any buyer would probably want to see how things settle down after the withdrawal of the 51-55 (I'd guess), and on top of that, I doubt it would be worthwhile buying the Northumbria division alone.

(12 Aug 2023, 10:49 am)Iamtheone8483748 wrote But that would come at a cost, presumably money GNE don't have

(10 Aug 2023, 7:28 pm)wibblejunior wrote GNE actually used to operate from the current Arriva depot in Ashington, before they sold it in exchange for Hexham depot during 2010 (I think?)

(12 Aug 2023, 10:47 am)Unber43 wrote I always thought GNE would go after it as it seems to be wanting to strengthen its NT routes, this would be perfect.

(12 Aug 2023, 11:07 am)Storx wrote GoAhead can stay well away and so can WorstBus imo.