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RE: Jim Hughes of Sunderland/Birtley - JHCoaches - 23 Jul 2015
The registration of the Enviro 200 is KX10DVN
RE: Jim Hughes of Sunderland/Birtley - jaimzm - 23 Jul 2015
(23 Jul 2015, 3:45 pm)JHCoaches haha Lee, you really don't like the primo do you?
I think Primos are okay buses I like riding on them I can't wait to try it out 23s
RE: Jim Hughes of Sunderland/Birtley - LeeCalder - 23 Jul 2015
(23 Jul 2015, 3:45 pm)JHCoaches haha Lee, you really don't like the primo do you?
Not really, but it does look very good.
RE: Jim Hughes of Sunderland/Birtley - Dan - 24 Jul 2015
![[Image: 19347831323_440e21f4d3.jpg]](https://farm1.staticflickr.com/528/19347831323_440e21f4d3.jpg)
JH Coaches 11 Mercedes Sprinter Optare Sorocco. by Guy Park-Royal, on FlickrI notice a duplicate service is being offered on the Blackpool service already - I can only assume that this is due to high passenger numbers on the usual coach? Great stuff, if so.
RE: Jim Hughes of Sunderland/Birtley - South Tyne Lad - 24 Jul 2015
(24 Jul 2015, 7:51 pm)Dan
I notice a duplicate service is being offered on the Blackpool service already - I can only assume that this is due to high passenger numbers on the usual coach? Great stuff, if so.
Would hate to imagine 4 hours on a Mercedes Sprinter all the way to Blackpool!!
RE: Jim Hughes of Sunderland/Birtley - buss14 - 24 Jul 2015
(23 Jul 2015, 2:03 pm)South Tyne Lad JH, Are you getting any new double decker's this year? Since you have withdrawn some DAFs.
so when the previous post says withdrawn does that mean now or does it mean they are going to be but not yet?
RE: Jim Hughes of Sunderland/Birtley - tyresmoke - 25 Jul 2015
(24 Jul 2015, 9:31 pm)buss14 so when the previous post says withdrawn does that mean now or does it mean they are going to be but not yet?
As the school year has finished I'd be inclined to say they're withdrawn now. Replacement vehicles will presumably be sourced over the summer season, dependent on requirements for the next school year. Majority of new contracts will require Euro4 vehicles which I am not sure these DLAs meet?
RE: Jim Hughes of Sunderland/Birtley - Jimmi - 27 Jul 2015
Enviro 200 KX10DVN on the 23 today.
![[Image: 20065760971_6ba2c70eb5.jpg]](https://farm1.staticflickr.com/387/20065760971_6ba2c70eb5.jpg)
JH Coaches: KX10 DVN by Jimmi's Bus Photos, on Flickr
RE: Jim Hughes of Sunderland/Birtley - LeeCalder - 27 Jul 2015
(27 Jul 2015, 6:46 pm)Jimmi Enviro 200 KX10DVN on the 23 today.
They might want to sort this destination blind out as well because Vigo Bridge is not in Barley Mow Estate, where the bus actually terminates.
RE: Jim Hughes of Sunderland/Birtley - S813 FVK - 27 Jul 2015
(27 Jul 2015, 8:31 pm)LeeCalder They might want to sort this destination blind out as well because Vigo Bridge is not in Barley Mow Estate, where the bus actually terminates.
Is Vigo Bridge where the A1 bridge is (X25 turns left and 82 etc go straight on)?? Might be thinking of somewhere completely different like. My knowledge of Birtley isn't great.
RE: Jim Hughes of Sunderland/Birtley - LeeCalder - 27 Jul 2015
(27 Jul 2015, 8:35 pm)S813 FVK Is Vigo Bridge where the A1 bridge is (X25 turns left and 82 etc go straight on)?? Might be thinking of somewhere completely different like. My knowledge of Birtley isn't great.
Yes, that's correct. It is the bridge that the 82/82A goes under.
RE: Jim Hughes of Sunderland/Birtley - S813 FVK - 27 Jul 2015
(27 Jul 2015, 8:36 pm)LeeCalder Yes, that's correct. It is the bridge that the 82/82A goes under.
Yay!!! Whenever i go to the Galleries, that is the way we always go so i had some knowledge of the area.
RE: Jim Hughes of Sunderland/Birtley - JHCoaches - 28 Jul 2015
LeeCalder - The destination blinds shown on the 23 have been approved by Nexus and the service does not terminate at Barley Mow Estate but Birtley Lansbury Driver - This is a through service.
RE: Jim Hughes of Sunderland/Birtley - Andreos1 - 28 Jul 2015
(27 Jul 2015, 8:36 pm)LeeCalder Yes, that's correct. It is the bridge that the 82/82A goes under.Not quite.
It is the little stone bridge that goes over the lines, into the estate at the back of the BOC.
That was a continuation of Portobello Road and originally fed onto Picktree Lane.
Obviously the bypass changed the roads in the area.
(28 Jul 2015, 5:53 am)JHCoaches LeeCalder - The destination blinds shown on the 23 have been approved by Nexus and the service does not terminate at Barley Mow Estate but Birtley Lansbury Driver - This is a through service.
I guessed it may have been.
It seems confusing. If a passenger is getting on a 23 at any point prior to Lansbury Drive, at say Washington, Wrekenton, the Coach & Horses etc., then what is there to say that it continues beyond Lansbury Drive to Barley Mow/Vigo Bridge, before doubling back and terminating at Lansbury Drive?
If I was stood at the Coach & Horses, I would look at a bus approaching from Wrekenton, see the blind and guess it is terminating at Lansbury Drive and not serving any areas beyond.
RE: Jim Hughes of Sunderland/Birtley - LeeCalder - 28 Jul 2015
(28 Jul 2015, 5:53 am)JHCoaches LeeCalder - The destination blinds shown on the 23 have been approved by Nexus and the service does not terminate at Barley Mow Estate but Birtley Lansbury Driver - This is a through service.
So when you come back from the Galleries you go through Lansbury Drive, Birtley, Barley Mow up to Vigo Bridge, then back through Barley Mow, Birtley and Lansbury Drive before terminating?
I'm sure there is an error there as the terminus point has always been Barley Mow Estate. Why would the bus go through the area and then go back on itself once more before terminating?
RE: Jim Hughes of Sunderland/Birtley - LeeCalder - 28 Jul 2015
(28 Jul 2015, 7:05 am)Andreos1 Not quite.
It is the little stone bridge that goes over the lines, into the estate at the back of the BOC.
That was a continuation of Portobello Road and originally fed onto Picktree Lane.
Obviously the bypass changed the roads in the area.
As far as I'm concerned and as far as most people are conceded they would probably class the by-pass bridge as Vigo Bridge. Most people I talk to, seniors also, always say they are going to get the bus at "Vigo bridge", meaning the by-pass bridge.
RE: Jim Hughes of Sunderland/Birtley - LeeCalder - 28 Jul 2015
(28 Jul 2015, 5:53 am)JHCoaches LeeCalder - The destination blinds shown on the 23 have been approved by Nexus and the service does not terminate at Barley Mow Estate but Birtley Lansbury Driver - This is a through service.
There certainly has to be an error there. Not on your part, but the NEXUS side of things. Can I just refer you to the passenger copy of the 23 timetable which states that the 23 terminates at Barley Mow Estate. Neither Lansbury Drive or Vigo Bridge. Although the shorter journey's do terminate at Lansbury Driver / Birtley Crematorium.
23 - Washington - Birtley - Barley Mow
I'm only trying to help, because over the last five years or so, the blind has always said "Washington Galleries", "Barley Mow Est" or "Birtley Crematorium" and these sudden changes might confuse a few, considering almost all of the passengers apart from me are nearly 90!
RE: Jim Hughes of Sunderland/Birtley - GuyParkRoyal - 28 Jul 2015
(28 Jul 2015, 7:50 am)LeeCalder There certainly has to be an error there. Not on your part, but the NEXUS side of things. Can I just refer you to the passenger copy of the 23 timetable which states that the 23 terminates at Barley Mow Estate. Neither Lansbury Drive or Vigo Bridge. Although the shorter journey's do terminate at Lansbury Driver / Birtley Crematorium.
23 - Washington - Birtley - Barley Mow
I'm only trying to help, because over the last five years or so, the blind has always said "Washington Galleries", "Barley Mow Est" or "Birtley Crematorium" and these sudden changes might confuse a few, considering almost all of the passengers apart from me are nearly 90!
I am delighted that JH Coaches have brought back the Vigo Bridge destination to the 23 and I'm sure that the senior passengers that you refer to will remember the old Vigo Bridge destination and have no issue with it.
As JH Coaches have correctly said this route is a through service at the Barley Mow end not a terminating point hence the reason Dorset Avenue (North) appears twice on the Barley Mow section of the running board.
I don't subscribe to the view of not changing something because it has been like that for 5 years as that would prevent continuous improvement.
While supporting the JH Coaches destination display I do have concerns on passenger confusion if the two operators on the 23 have different destinations on display. Perhaps Nexus could decide which of the two destinations is most appropriate and standardise accordingly.
RE: Jim Hughes of Sunderland/Birtley - LeeCalder - 28 Jul 2015
(28 Jul 2015, 8:14 am)GuyParkRoyal I am delighted that JH Coaches have brought back the Vigo Bridge destination to the 23 and I'm sure that the senior passengers that you refer to will remember the old Vigo Bridge destination and have no issue with it.
As JH Coaches have correctly said this route is a through service at the Barley Mow end not a terminating point hence the reason Dorset Avenue (North) appears twice on the Barley Mow section of the running board.
I don't subscribe to the view of not changing something because it has been like that for 5 years as that would prevent continuous improvement.
While supporting the JH Coaches destination display I do have concerns on passenger confusion if the two operators on the 23 have different destinations on display. Perhaps Nexus could decide which of the two destinations is most appropriate and standardise accordingly.
That is my whole point. It is confusing.
RE: Jim Hughes of Sunderland/Birtley - S813 FVK - 28 Jul 2015
(28 Jul 2015, 8:18 am)LeeCalder That is my whole point. It is confusing.
Is it your point though? You were arguing that the service terminates at Barley Mow Estate rather than Vigo Bridge/Lansbury Drive rather than the destination shown by both operators being different.