(16 Aug 2015, 12:16 pm)aureolin wrote Who's said they're going to be refurbished?

Also, the next winner of the next Northern franchise has to bring 120 new non-electric 'carriages' into service by 2020. So you'd expect new DMUs to be on the cards. By the same year, Pacers wouldn't be allowed for use on the Northern franchise.

I thought the current Northern franchise has a 'no growth' agreement; and that purchase of new rolling stock was in contravention to this so this is why they have always had second-hand stock. Otherwise this is probably why we've never had new stock sooner.

Sure I've read that before but I'm happy to be corrected.