(22 Dec 2015, 8:42 pm)R852 PRG wrote Only thing I could have suggested as the most suitable aternative would be the Citaros from the ''Connections4'', but they're only just over half of the total PVR for the 20. They're only a couple of years old and still in fantastic shape, and I think they'd be much better suited to the 20/20A than Streetlites in the long term. Unfortunately they just aren't high enough in number, and then you've got the predicament of what to allocate to the 4 if you removed the Citaros from that route.
Add 5332 to the my initial suggestion and I reckon there is enough to cover the PVR for the 20.
Perfect.
We just need the message to get to GNE towers!
(22 Dec 2015, 8:55 pm)DaveyBowyer wrote I think that although the Streetlites can rattle and probably won't last as long as a heavyweight single decker but still a decent anough time for what they are (maybe 12 years), the purchase and running cost of them are a no brainer and if looked after, they should have no performance issues.
I will still say that a Red Arrows upgrade with 7x going on the Pronto, 5x going corporate and 2x going on the Angel (and GKN modified) would've been a far better option rather than just buying new Streetdecks for the Pronto. It would've allowed the X1 to become GNE's flagship double deck service second to the Angel (including power sockets which are lacking on the current B9s on there and eLeather) whilst Riverside / Percy Main would've benifited from more better quality spare vehicles (also meaning 6084 could become a more premanent fixture on the TEN due to 6049 taking over the role as the tachograph spare B9). Chester would've also benefited from 2x extra modern Geminis for the Angel and several services and parts of the network would've benefited from the freed B7 Geminis including displacing the 2x non DDA compliant Lolynes on the DFDS work.
Mechanically, they may be fine.
The fitters may be able to keep them on the road - but the route is a pretty demanding one. Those rattly bits are at the mercy of three local authorities and their associated road/pothole repair methods.