(29 May 2016, 10:34 am)Adrian wrote I don't think buses need to have bins. People just need to be civilised, and take their litter with them. It's rare that you're going somewhere that doesn't have a bin.

New buses don't have any luggage space at all. It's as simple as that. The one tiny place for them on a Streetlite has the fire extinguisher and Metro newspaper rack there, so I'd argue you couldn't put anything there for fear of obstructing the fire extinguisher. Geminis are no better mind, with a tiny bit of storage space at the front. It's as if we were spoilt with buses like Nationals and the Olympians... you could literally store suitcase upon suitcase in them.

It's an issue that hasn't gone away, so I'm not sure why manufacturers no longer include luggage space? Passengers get frustrated (and I saw quite a bit of this in Brighton), that other passengers have bags with them, and on the seat next to them. How can you channel behaviour if you're removing the solutions?

I think the design of a National lent itself to the huge amount of storage space though. The height of the saloon floor and associated void above the wheel was perfect for storage.

Not sure it has spoiled passengers expectations though.
I think the quest for bums on seats and the impact of DDA has ensured storage is maybe further down the line of demands. How many more seats can you get in a Merc (bearing in mind the height of the luggage rack), at the expense of another square metre of storage?