(07 May 2023, 7:53 pm)Storx wrote tbf, the things were sheds when they were at Blyth last time and that must've been 10 year ago? I really don't know why Blyth engineering done them but they really ruined the things, then some bright spark though they'd be ideal for the X93 which obviously was a disaster.

Awful buses but then again most Enviro's from that era are the same. The Stagecoach ones which pottered around on city work all their life aren't exactly much better.

Agreed sadly with the Gemini's but give them credit they've outlasted the N113's and they were really knackered by the end (and now I feel old).

Yeah I suppose the 57 plate Envoros were rattely when new but I seem to recall their refurbishment did help matters.

IMHO you can't really fault the Geminis, they have served us well, but they are now starting to show their age, with some of them squeaking, leacking water at the back and the corrosion around the windows. Mind you if they had more TLC form Blyth depot I'm sure they would be in a much better state.

The Cityzens were a disgrace frpm around 2000 onwards, and now I'm showing my age!