(23 Feb 2024, 9:49 am)Storx wrote I said it then and I'll say it now but this 1 and 2 are still completely ridiculous bus routes.

Teesside are supposedly in a partnership with operators, this is exactly where partnerships should be working instead of having alternative operators competing again commercial routes doing give or take the same route.

Who's at fault who knows but it shouldn't be here, something like upping the 5 back to every 15 minutes and running it as a 5B and both routes breaking off doing the loop omiting Saltburn at Lingdale just to pluck one idea is surely a better use of resources even if it uses more.

The 15/15/30 farce along Trunk Road and through Guisborough is a complete mess as it is aswell imo. I'm quite vocal about using public funds to boost frequent routes but I'd make an exception there as it just doesn't make sense as it is.

I agree 100% that Arriva could have been getting involved but they decided not to so Stagecoach said they will do it. Don't know why Arriva said no but also they don't have the Staff for it or Buses for that matter so that might have been why. The Redcar Depot don't have enough buses available for even their routes and Stockton probs has one spare maybe 2 so they would need to get more buses or cut some of their own services for extra ones in a east cleveland route/upgrade. Or they would have to get buses loaned or operated by other companies to help them out until they would get them off and running.

I can't remember which company it was but Arriva Redcar had a white E200 MMC on the X4 during the pandemic as cover. (I done some digging into this and apparently they were loaned / tested by ANE at the time. Unsure on the actual reason why)

With these new route additions to the route for the 1 and 2 it will probs be better to get stagecoach to Skelton from Loftus. All depends on how there gonna plan it out. They will also need to go round changing all the timetables at bus stops again which I know theres some bus stops even without timetables or with an old one. That's down the council to get that sorted and R & C council are a joke.

In terms of the Trunk Road, I'm unsure on what you mean. Because the X2/X3 and X4 go up there every 15 minutes along with a 62 which is every half hour. Or if your on about the western side of the trunk road with the shopping park which the 62 only go down. The 62 is every 30 mins and a pvr of 4 but most of the time there isn't 4 on there and also its mostly late which to be fair is due to some road works down Trunk Road but I think there over now. The guisborough reduction was only minor as they cut off a 5A because it got extended to Lingdale and the 5A every half hour to guisborough sainsburys was pointless and was mostly empty. 

They should go round people of the area with a survey and ask people where they go with the service they currently use and are they any problems with the service and where they mostly want to go. Or go posting a surveys and get people to send it back.