Go North East | Sunday timetables all weekend

[Omega54]

Does anyone know when the Sunday timetables are ending for Consett on Saturdays.

[Omega54]

Why are there single deckers on the 78?

[MurdnunoC]

Why is the moon made of cheese?

[Andreos1]

Why are there single deckers on the 78?

Hindsight might kick in later when they realise Sunderland are at home and it's looking like a decent crowd.

[Omega54]

Hindsight might kick in later when they realise Sunderland are at home and it's looking like a decent crowd.

In the past, 78 do get quite full even without a match on, maybe it was a mistake by the allocater for Consett. Maybe it is one which didn't realise that they should be putting on a double decker.

Same with the 39 they are using solo's again.

[Dan]

Hindsight might kick in later when they realise Sunderland are at home and it's looking like a decent crowd.

Or Go North East have the data from previous match days and know that double-decks are not required so have reverted back to the usual allocation. Just a thought…


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[Omega54]

Or Go North East have the data from previous match days and know that double-decks are not required so have reverted back to the usual allocation. Just a thought…


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Yeah, but this match day is a lot different. Jermain Defoe is back, and could be playing.

[S813 FVK]

Yeah, but this match day is a lot different. Jermain Defoe is back, and could be playing.

I would expect a lot of the tickets to have been sold regardless of the prospect of a specific player playing.

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[Dan]

Yeah, but this match day is a lot different. Jermain Defoe is back, and could be playing.

How very shortsighted of Go North East. Let’s hope Stagecoach Sunderland has drafted in double decks from Newcastle for their services passing the Stadium of Light today.


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[MurdnunoC]

I would imagine a lot of concessionary passes to be used considering an OAP might be making his return to the Stadium of Light.

I wonder if Jermain (sic) is related to Percy Main? They're both about the same age.

[Omega54]

How very shortsighted of Go North East. Let’s hope Stagecoach Sunderland has drafted in double decks from Newcastle for their services passing the Stadium of Light today.


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Stagecoach Sunderland aren't running sunday service though?

[Dan]

Stagecoach Sunderland aren't running sunday service though?

They’re running a reduced service level on the Es - have they upgraded those to double decks today?


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[Omega54]

They’re running a reduced service level on the Es - have they upgraded those to double decks today?


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3 services which follow quite a lot of the same route, compared to 78 (which is every 60 mins atm), 56 every 20, 20 every 30, 39/39A every 30mins.

[Dan]

3 services which follow quite a lot of the same route, compared to 78 (which is every 60 mins atm), 56 every 20, 20 every 30, 39/39A every 30mins.

The E1/E2/E6 are vastly different routes - they have common sections in which they provide a good combined frequency but in the main there are a lot of unique sections too, so in the main it is a half-hourly service to most customers.

They go much closer to the Stadium of Light than the 78. To answer my own question, Stagecoach are running a fleet of single-decks on these services today, with no double-decks allocated. I’d imagine these services, running less frequently than normal, are more likely to carry customers heading to the match than the 78.


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[Andreos1]

Or Go North East have the data from previous match days and know that double-decks are not required so have reverted back to the usual allocation. Just a thought…


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What were the match day attendances on those previous Saturdays vs the expected attendance today?

[Storx]

How very shortsighted of Go North East. Let’s hope Stagecoach Sunderland has drafted in double decks from Newcastle for their services passing the Stadium of Light today.


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Not sure what Stagecoach has to do with this.

Customer: I had to wait for over an hour as I couldn't get on the 20.
GNE: Stagecoach only ran single deckers on the E1/E2/E3.
Customer: Okay...?

[Dan]

What were the match day attendances on those previous Saturdays vs the expected attendance today?

Not a vast difference - 32k on 22 January vs 34k today.

If Go North East are making decisions based on previous weeks' data, then clearly an assumption is being made that the 2k difference in expected attendance today is not enough to cause over-loading issues on the 78 today.

We'll find out later - thankfully bustimes enables us to see this!

Not sure what Stagecoach has to do with this.

Customer: I had to wait for over an hour as I couldn't get on the 20.
GNE: Stagecoach only ran single deckers on the E1/E2/E3.
Customer: Okay...?

Not sure that scenario would ever happen - what's the relevance? This thread is an enthusiasts discussion and in this discussion I am drawing a comparison against other operators, who similarly have decreased the frequency of a service, and not upgraded capacity today on a match day. Like Go North East, Stagecoach may have made this decision based on data from previous weeks.

[MurdnunoC]

The anticipation of whether the 78 will cope with single deckers between approximately 13:00 and 18:00 is potentially far more exciting than the match itself.

Can't wait for the Bus Times vidi-printer to kick in to see the result.

[Andreos1]

Not a vast difference - 32k on 22 January vs 34k today.

If Go North East are making decisions based on previous weeks' data, then clearly an assumption is being made that the 2k difference in expected attendance today is not enough to cause over-loading issues on the 78 today. 

We'll find out later - thankfully bustimes enables us to see this!



Not sure that scenario would ever happen - what's the relevance? This thread is an enthusiasts discussion and in this discussion I am drawing a comparison against other operators, who similarly have decreased the frequency of a service, and not upgraded capacity today on a match day. Like Go North East, Stagecoach may have made this decision based on data from previous weeks.

You're suggesting that a multi-million pound operation, are basing their allocation (which could have ramifications going forward), on one previous game?

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The anticipation of whether the 78 will cope with single deckers between approximately 13:00 and 18:00 is potentially far more exciting than the match itself.

Can't wait for the Bus Times vidi-printer to kick in to see the result.

Bus times website crashing in the hours before and after the match, with us lot trying to find out what the loadings are like!

[Storx]

What were the match day attendances on those previous Saturdays vs the expected attendance today?

28k or so last game vs 35k or so (so far) if taking account of the away support who will never use the bus.

Much wider difference than being reported.