Arriva North East: Latest News & Discussion - November 2013
Arriva North East: Latest News & Discussion - November 2013
(12 Dec 2013, 8:03 pm)Dan Do think it's a bit backward... Introducing branding on a service which interworks with another.
I'll jump in before people say, "Go North East have services which do that too". To those people - I've criticised GNE's services which do that too.
(12 Dec 2013, 8:03 pm)Dan Do think it's a bit backward... Introducing branding on a service which interworks with another.
I'll jump in before people say, "Go North East have services which do that too". To those people - I've criticised GNE's services which do that too.
(12 Dec 2013, 8:00 pm)Tom 6 and 42 interwork, so not rare really.
(12 Dec 2013, 8:00 pm)Tom 6 and 42 interwork, so not rare really.
(12 Dec 2013, 8:12 pm)Adam Malarkey I didn't know that don't pay much attention to Arriva and there interworkings etc,plus it's rare I ever go to Durham anyway, and I agree with Daniel that having branding on an Interworking Service, Would it not be worth Re-Numbering the 42 as 6A so that the Branding isn't meaningless.
(12 Dec 2013, 8:12 pm)Adam Malarkey I didn't know that don't pay much attention to Arriva and there interworkings etc,plus it's rare I ever go to Durham anyway, and I agree with Daniel that having branding on an Interworking Service, Would it not be worth Re-Numbering the 42 as 6A so that the Branding isn't meaningless.
(12 Dec 2013, 8:58 pm)BJ10VUS It could be something to look at, but then there's route information on the bus above the windows, plus is it really worth the £60 to re-register?
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(12 Dec 2013, 8:58 pm)BJ10VUS It could be something to look at, but then there's route information on the bus above the windows, plus is it really worth the £60 to re-register?
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(12 Dec 2013, 8:03 pm)Dan Do think it's a bit backward... Introducing branding on a service which interworks with another - especially when branding isn't a common thing in the Arriva North East network.
I'll jump in before people say, "Go North East have services which do that too". To those people - I've criticised GNE's services which do that too.
(12 Dec 2013, 8:03 pm)Dan Do think it's a bit backward... Introducing branding on a service which interworks with another - especially when branding isn't a common thing in the Arriva North East network.
I'll jump in before people say, "Go North East have services which do that too". To those people - I've criticised GNE's services which do that too.
I have created the following group on flickr, so if you could join it that would be great
Arriva North East Sapphire Branded Wright Pulsar 2's
http://www.flickr.com/groups/2429918@N20/
I had a look at the Versa earlier in the week and really liked the colour.A Versa was trialled at Bishop Auckland some years ago but none were ordered so I wonder if it will be more successful this time.It is vehicle that size wise would be useful for some of the estates that Arriva buses use, Darlington could use them for Services 9 and 10 and X26 and X27.
PB0002717/243 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Belmont Park & Ride and Sniperley Park & Ride given service number P1 effective from 23-Dec-2013. To amend Timetable.
(11 Dec 2013, 7:06 pm)Greg in Weardale Exactly. It's a question of SERVICE v COMPETITION. I agree that Northern starting the X84/85 between Hexham and Newcastle was opportunistic (although they did run the 684 hourly, albeit slower), more so than the introduction of the OK1 which did fill a gap in the market with a fast bus Crook - Bishop - Darlington and on a different route than Arriva's 1/1B ie via the new shops at St Helens and West Auckland rather than Shildon. But Arriva's response to the Tynedalexpress has put competition before service, as northern156 has lost his early SERVICE to Carlisle, so Arriva can COMPETE with GNE between Hexham and Newcastle, even though to do this they now have five light workings between Jesmond and Hexham and one all the way to Carlisle, instead of the one they had before (the return of the evening X85). Why didn't they just retime their X85's to run in front of Northern? Yes, they've saved three long layovers in Carlisle in the morning (assuming the word on the street is correct that the empty bus works the 1107) and two in the evening, but there must still be four long breaks in Carlisle between 1256 and 1707, unless the Tardis has regenerated as an OmniCity! It's silly, illogical and commercially it can't be financially viable as the revenue Arriva may claw back from GNE will be gobbled up by all the empty running.
(11 Dec 2013, 7:06 pm)Greg in Weardale Exactly. It's a question of SERVICE v COMPETITION. I agree that Northern starting the X84/85 between Hexham and Newcastle was opportunistic (although they did run the 684 hourly, albeit slower), more so than the introduction of the OK1 which did fill a gap in the market with a fast bus Crook - Bishop - Darlington and on a different route than Arriva's 1/1B ie via the new shops at St Helens and West Auckland rather than Shildon. But Arriva's response to the Tynedalexpress has put competition before service, as northern156 has lost his early SERVICE to Carlisle, so Arriva can COMPETE with GNE between Hexham and Newcastle, even though to do this they now have five light workings between Jesmond and Hexham and one all the way to Carlisle, instead of the one they had before (the return of the evening X85). Why didn't they just retime their X85's to run in front of Northern? Yes, they've saved three long layovers in Carlisle in the morning (assuming the word on the street is correct that the empty bus works the 1107) and two in the evening, but there must still be four long breaks in Carlisle between 1256 and 1707, unless the Tardis has regenerated as an OmniCity! It's silly, illogical and commercially it can't be financially viable as the revenue Arriva may claw back from GNE will be gobbled up by all the empty running.
(19 Dec 2013, 4:10 pm)RGR756V This is exactly what happened when the 6 was increased to a 12 minute frequency. Two buses an hour were removed from Evenwood to stick an extra service in from Durham to West Auckland to compete with the X21 and OK1, yes the old 50 was extended to Evenwood via Ramshaw but people do not want to be carted all around Toft Hill and Witton to get to Bishop and not surprisingly it was binned in September. Now the two Cockfield buses get absolutely hammered and causes late running and bunching of the service.
(19 Dec 2013, 4:10 pm)RGR756V This is exactly what happened when the 6 was increased to a 12 minute frequency. Two buses an hour were removed from Evenwood to stick an extra service in from Durham to West Auckland to compete with the X21 and OK1, yes the old 50 was extended to Evenwood via Ramshaw but people do not want to be carted all around Toft Hill and Witton to get to Bishop and not surprisingly it was binned in September. Now the two Cockfield buses get absolutely hammered and causes late running and bunching of the service.
Ticket changes
New tickets from Arriva allow travelling between Hartlepool and Sunderland for £6.90 (day) and £25.50 (week), and Peterlee and Sunderland for £5.70 (day) and £22 (week) which is rather good!
(19 Dec 2013, 5:12 pm)Tom Ticket changes
New tickets from Arriva allow travelling between Hartlepool and Sunderland for £6.90 (day) and £25.50 (week), and Peterlee and Sunderland for £5.70 (day) and £22 (week) which is rather good!
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(19 Dec 2013, 5:12 pm)Tom Ticket changes
New tickets from Arriva allow travelling between Hartlepool and Sunderland for £6.90 (day) and £25.50 (week), and Peterlee and Sunderland for £5.70 (day) and £22 (week) which is rather good!
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(19 Dec 2013, 5:12 pm)Tom Ticket changes
New tickets from Arriva allow travelling between Hartlepool and Sunderland for £6.90 (day) and £25.50 (week), and Peterlee and Sunderland for £5.70 (day) and £22 (week) which is rather good!
(19 Dec 2013, 5:12 pm)Tom Ticket changes
New tickets from Arriva allow travelling between Hartlepool and Sunderland for £6.90 (day) and £25.50 (week), and Peterlee and Sunderland for £5.70 (day) and £22 (week) which is rather good!
(19 Dec 2013, 5:45 pm)cbma06 Who made these prices up?, for the 3 zone ticket for a month to travel in Hartlepool, peterlee and Sunderland is the same price for a northeast all zone ticket for a month.
To travel between Hartlepool,peterlee and Sunderland for a week and if you just pay an extra pound per week then you can get an northeast all zone ticket.
The East Durham triple ticket should of been a lot cheaper than just a pound ish cheaper than a northeast all zone ticket.
Wish there was picture or diagram of the zone boundries of the east durham ticket.
I think Arriva should take a page out of GNE ticket boundries, and have the same kind of setup even though the prices might be a bit cheaper but it would at least draw more passengers onto there buses
(19 Dec 2013, 5:45 pm)cbma06 Who made these prices up?, for the 3 zone ticket for a month to travel in Hartlepool, peterlee and Sunderland is the same price for a northeast all zone ticket for a month.
To travel between Hartlepool,peterlee and Sunderland for a week and if you just pay an extra pound per week then you can get an northeast all zone ticket.
The East Durham triple ticket should of been a lot cheaper than just a pound ish cheaper than a northeast all zone ticket.
Wish there was picture or diagram of the zone boundries of the east durham ticket.
I think Arriva should take a page out of GNE ticket boundries, and have the same kind of setup even though the prices might be a bit cheaper but it would at least draw more passengers onto there buses
