I know it's not looking good for Arriva. To be fair they need something below 5 years old on a Dales bus or Moors bus service , also presumably not a streetlite as they break down when they are new. Yes thankfully 2868 was parked spare at Darlington and it was brought 60 Miles to Ingleton.

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YJ58CBU/2850 is on X67.

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MAX branded 1481 is on the Cross Pennine 685/X85. 17:20 service X85 off Newcastle, Eldon Square.

1474 is on the MAX X12. 18:50 off Middlesbrough, Bus Station.

I know it's not looking good for Arriva. To be fair they need something below 5 years old on a Dales bus or Moors bus service , also presumably not a streetlite as they break down when they are new. Yes thankfully 2868 was parked spare at Darlington and it was brought 60 Miles to Ingleton.

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YJ58CBU/2850 is on X67.

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They certainly wont buy new vehicles for a contract that only lasts a few weekends each year.

Given the issues so far on both Moors and Dales, I wonder if they even consider the contracts next year? That tow-in wouldnt have been cheap.

They certainly wont buy new vehicles for a contract that only lasts a few weekends each year.

Given the issues so far on both Moors and Dales, I wonder if they even consider the contracts next year? That tow-in wouldnt have been cheap.

I think an independent company would be better. As you need a new bus on a service that is remote. I have been told the breakdown yesterday coat £350.

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I think an independent company would be better. As you need a new bus on a service that is remote. I have been told the breakdown yesterday cost £350.

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They certainly wont buy new vehicles for a contract that only lasts a few weekends each year.

Given the issues so far on both Moors and Dales, I wonder if they even consider the contracts next year? That tow-in wouldnt have been cheap.

I think an independent company would be better. As you need a new bus on a service that is remote. I have been told the breakdown yesterday coat £350.

Not to mention there's also the likelihood that the DalesBus 830 won't return next year (and beyond) due to a lack of funding, the Arriva 830 wasn't looking like it wouldn't be back this year until funding was found at the last moment to support the service for the year.

Pretty much all of the independents local to the DalesBus and Moorsbus routes currently have no buses that are newer than the 11 reg Solo's currently used on the 830, pretty much the only options are Dales & District two Solo SR's or Scarlet Band using a Durham Park & Ride Solo SR although Dales & District currently use both Solo SRs on their two DalesBus offerings this year.

Not to mention there's also the likelihood that the DalesBus 830 won't return next year (and beyond) due to a lack of funding, the Arriva 830 wasn't looking like it wouldn't be back this year until funding was found at the last moment to support the service for the year.

Pretty much all of the independents local to the DalesBus and Moorsbus routes currently have no buses that are newer than the 11 reg Solo's currently used on the 830, pretty much the only options are Dales & District two Solo SR's or Scarlet Band using a Durham Park & Ride Solo SR although Dales & District currently use both Solo SRs on their two DalesBus offerings this year.

Yes you do have a point there Matthew. I did this route a couple of Sundays ago and it was pretty much full. They need to at least maintain the vehicle well that does this route as they could of avoided the breakdown yesterday easily. I think it would be good if an Independent company such as Dales & District did this route but as you say they use both their Srs on services this year. They do have the two 14 reg Enviros but they are awful rattly things.

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1465 is on the MAX X1. 16:40 off Darlington, Tubwell Row.

NL63VRG/1513 is on the X26.

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They certainly wont buy new vehicles for a contract that only lasts a few weekends each year.

Given the issues so far on both Moors and Dales, I wonder if they even consider the contracts next year? That tow-in wouldnt have been cheap.

Well they'd use them on something else the rest of the time wouldn't they, they wouldn't be sat idle.

MAX X66/X67 branded 4656 is on the MAX X26 serving Kemmel & Colburn. 19:20 off Darlington, Town Hall.

Frequenta branded 2850 is on the MAX X66 serving Hartburn. 19:30 off Darlington, Tubwell Row.

Frequenta 13A/13B branded 2854 is on the Sapphire 7. 21:15 off Darlington, Tubwell Row.

Well they'd use them on something else the rest of the time wouldn't they, they wouldn't be sat idle.

Yep, certainly, but I think the point I was trying to make was that the new vehicles would need to be bought some a completely different reason and then just happen to see use on the Dalesbus for them to benefit.

The North East appears to have a surplus of minibuses, so new orders for anything smaller than single deck are unlikely for a few years yet (albeit next year the 08 plate Solo's are effectively depreciated).

Frequenta branded 2850 is on the MAX X66 serving Hartburn. 19:30 off Darlington, Tubwell Row.

4655 passed me at great burdon at 19:45 tonight bound for Middlesbrough

Frequenta branded 2851 is on the 1/5/5A/19 cycle. 10:28 service 1 off Bishop Auckland, Bus Station.

1517 on 48/X46.

1477 is on the Sapphire 6. 11:45 off Durham, Bus Station.

7439 is on the Coastliner 308. 15:52 off Newcastle upon Tyne, Haymarket Bus Station.

7487 is on the MAX X7/X8. 16:07 service X7 off Newcastle upon Tyne, Haymarket Bus Station.

7466 is on the MAX X10/X11. 16:20 service X10 off Newcastle upon Tyne, Haymarket Bus Station.

1403 is on the MAX X10/X11. 16:35 service X11 off Newcastle upon Tyne, Haymarket Bus Station.

MAX branded 1419 is on the Coastliner 306. 17:04 off Newcastle upon Tyne, Haymarket Bus Station.

PLain pulsar on the 22.

MAX branded 1482 is on the Great North Road Routes 43/44/45. 17:22 service 43 off Newcastle upon Tyne, Haymarket Bus Station.

NL63VRJ/1513 IS ON THE X26.

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NK13CGO/4809 is on the X66.

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NL63VRJ/1513 IS ON THE X26.

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NK13CFO/4809 is on the X66.

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NK13CFN/4808 is on X66.

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1474 on 23

Yesterday.

[Route 308]NK53HHX / 1401 by Jamie MP, on Flickr

1466 is on the MAX X1. 15:30 off Darlington, Tubwell Row.

Frequenta branded 2843 is on the Frequenta 4. 16:27 off Darlington, Northgate.