Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - February 2020
Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - February 2020
(07 Feb 2020, 1:27 pm)Venturego Just tried to find GNE routes/services to Newcastle Airport, as I thought an All Zone day ticket at £7 would save me using the car + parking etc.., but amazed to see GNE no longer have any services to the Airport. - Surely an Express link from Metro Centre, would be very successful as it would link to most of the GNE network using connecting services, and would be both Fast, Efficient use of possibly only one bus, and avoid City Centre, as transferring to onward services at Metro Centre would suffice.
As it is at the moment, I would need to buy a multi operator ticket, transferring to either Stagecoach or Metro trains in Newcastle etc...
Wonder if Martijn Gilbert is aware of, what seems to me, a huge missed opportunity to plug a gap, which I am sure there will be great demand from early morning to late night, servicing passengers on daily return flights.
(07 Feb 2020, 1:27 pm)Venturego Just tried to find GNE routes/services to Newcastle Airport, as I thought an All Zone day ticket at £7 would save me using the car + parking etc.., but amazed to see GNE no longer have any services to the Airport. - Surely an Express link from Metro Centre, would be very successful as it would link to most of the GNE network using connecting services, and would be both Fast, Efficient use of possibly only one bus, and avoid City Centre, as transferring to onward services at Metro Centre would suffice.
As it is at the moment, I would need to buy a multi operator ticket, transferring to either Stagecoach or Metro trains in Newcastle etc...
Wonder if Martijn Gilbert is aware of, what seems to me, a huge missed opportunity to plug a gap, which I am sure there will be great demand from early morning to late night, servicing passengers on daily return flights.
There is a gap in service on the X21 in the afternoon where a bus terminates at Chester and then restarts from there later, I’m guessing this is so the bus can do a scholars, does anyone know which one?
Am I right in thinking that since the timetable change there are no longer any peak time boards and none run by any other depots
(07 Feb 2020, 6:13 pm)Storx There's little demand though really. 5.4m people using a flight a day / 365 days is 14.8k people a day. Knock off 98% (2%) as that's likely the amount of people coming from Derwentside / Tynedale (anyone else would use the Metro). That's down to 296 people and that's if your lucky. Then knock off another 20% off who are coming in overnight / past last buses. Your down to 237 people. If the service is hourly with a journey in both directions from 7am to 10pm that's 30 journeys which works out at a total of 8 people per bus and that's if everyone used the service - which in reality no-one will as a holiday is a treat and the last thing you want to do is mess around with buses. There's no profit in that.Don't forget the proportion who have simply paid £30 or whatever it is, lately, for a taxi each way from Peterlee and the like.
A non express bus which does bits of the West End though and eventually goes to the airport might work however as the connectivity from the West End to the Metro Centre / The Airport is pretty much non-existant bar travelling via Newcastle. Something like this https://goo.gl/maps/pTLmcM47s9JUSyLcA but it would make more sense being a Stagecoach service really. I know it doesn't really do your purpose but it would be useable for those coming from Derwentside etc if they wanted and might actually have a chance of making money because of the intermediate journeys from the West End to Kingston Park, the Airport, and the Metro Centre which are non-existant. I know of someone who travels to Byker to go shopping as there's no links to any other supermarkets without changing with this you'd give them 2 more direct options (Tesco Kingston Park / Asda Metro Centre) so the demand is there.
(07 Feb 2020, 7:18 pm)Wybus There is a gap in service on the X21 in the afternoon where a bus terminates at Chester and then restarts from there later, I’m guessing this is so the bus can do a scholars, does anyone know which one?Would be shit on a Friday, if so, though hopefully the 21 would pick up the slack as most of the Friday afternoon crawl is Newcastle gateshead.
Am I right in thinking that since the timetable change there are no longer any peak time boards and none run by any other depots
(07 Feb 2020, 6:13 pm)Storx There's little demand though really. 5.4m people using a flight a day / 365 days is 14.8k people a day. Knock off 98% (2%) as that's likely the amount of people coming from Derwentside / Tynedale (anyone else would use the Metro). That's down to 296 people and that's if your lucky. Then knock off another 20% off who are coming in overnight / past last buses. Your down to 237 people. If the service is hourly with a journey in both directions from 7am to 10pm that's 30 journeys which works out at a total of 8 people per bus and that's if everyone used the service - which in reality no-one will as a holiday is a treat and the last thing you want to do is mess around with buses. There's no profit in that.Don't forget the proportion who have simply paid £30 or whatever it is, lately, for a taxi each way from Peterlee and the like.
A non express bus which does bits of the West End though and eventually goes to the airport might work however as the connectivity from the West End to the Metro Centre / The Airport is pretty much non-existant bar travelling via Newcastle. Something like this https://goo.gl/maps/pTLmcM47s9JUSyLcA but it would make more sense being a Stagecoach service really. I know it doesn't really do your purpose but it would be useable for those coming from Derwentside etc if they wanted and might actually have a chance of making money because of the intermediate journeys from the West End to Kingston Park, the Airport, and the Metro Centre which are non-existant. I know of someone who travels to Byker to go shopping as there's no links to any other supermarkets without changing with this you'd give them 2 more direct options (Tesco Kingston Park / Asda Metro Centre) so the demand is there.
(07 Feb 2020, 7:18 pm)Wybus There is a gap in service on the X21 in the afternoon where a bus terminates at Chester and then restarts from there later, I’m guessing this is so the bus can do a scholars, does anyone know which one?Would be shit on a Friday, if so, though hopefully the 21 would pick up the slack as most of the Friday afternoon crawl is Newcastle gateshead.
Am I right in thinking that since the timetable change there are no longer any peak time boards and none run by any other depots
(07 Feb 2020, 1:07 pm)streetdeckfan So I was just talking to someone, and it got me thinking. How does everyone else say the fleet numbers?
I personally find it easier to say the numbers individually, so for 6332 I would say six three three two. Whereas I've heard others say them in twos, so sixty three thirty two
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(07 Feb 2020, 1:07 pm)streetdeckfan So I was just talking to someone, and it got me thinking. How does everyone else say the fleet numbers?
I personally find it easier to say the numbers individually, so for 6332 I would say six three three two. Whereas I've heard others say them in twos, so sixty three thirty two
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(07 Feb 2020, 2:02 pm)Rapidsnap 42A goes to Newcastle Airport but it goes via everywhere beforehand
(08 Feb 2020, 8:20 pm)Metroline1511 I hope to ride it next time I come to Newcastle, potentially late August. Hopefully the Yutongs will be in service by then, as currently indicated.
(08 Feb 2020, 8:20 pm)Metroline1511 I hope to ride it next time I come to Newcastle, potentially late August. Hopefully the Yutongs will be in service by then, as currently indicated.
(08 Feb 2020, 8:24 pm)OrangeArrow49 Why do you hope to ride the 42A? Which section of the route? What service are the Yutongs indicated to be going on?
(08 Feb 2020, 8:24 pm)OrangeArrow49 Why do you hope to ride the 42A? Which section of the route? What service are the Yutongs indicated to be going on?
(08 Feb 2020, 8:30 pm)Metroline1511 Because route 42A is an orbital route, contrasting with the routes I know which are mainly radial routes and key interurban routes.
I believe the Yutongs are for route 58, although I previously expected them to be for the Q routes.
(08 Feb 2020, 8:30 pm)Metroline1511 Because route 42A is an orbital route, contrasting with the routes I know which are mainly radial routes and key interurban routes.
I believe the Yutongs are for route 58, although I previously expected them to be for the Q routes.
(08 Feb 2020, 8:35 pm)OrangeArrow49 How much of the 42A route are you planning to ride? The full route is very long. A lot of bus services are quite long for the full distance. I don't know what orbital. radial and interurban routes are!
Yes, the 58 and Q services could do with new buses.
(08 Feb 2020, 8:35 pm)OrangeArrow49 How much of the 42A route are you planning to ride? The full route is very long. A lot of bus services are quite long for the full distance. I don't know what orbital. radial and interurban routes are!
Yes, the 58 and Q services could do with new buses.
(08 Feb 2020, 8:30 pm)Metroline1511 Because route 42A is an orbital route, contrasting with the routes I know which are mainly radial routes and key interurban routes.
I believe the Yutongs are for route 58, although I previously expected them to be for the Q routes.
(08 Feb 2020, 8:30 pm)Metroline1511 Because route 42A is an orbital route, contrasting with the routes I know which are mainly radial routes and key interurban routes.
I believe the Yutongs are for route 58, although I previously expected them to be for the Q routes.
(08 Feb 2020, 8:47 pm)Metroline1511 I am not sure yet. I reckon from Killingworth to Newcastle Airport will be long enough, even though I may catch another bus to North Shields.
Radial routes are those that originate in the centre, so I mean basically from Newcastle city centre. Interurban connect other towns eg South Shields - Durham, while orbital are those connecting minor interchanges.
(08 Feb 2020, 8:47 pm)Metroline1511 I am not sure yet. I reckon from Killingworth to Newcastle Airport will be long enough, even though I may catch another bus to North Shields.
Radial routes are those that originate in the centre, so I mean basically from Newcastle city centre. Interurban connect other towns eg South Shields - Durham, while orbital are those connecting minor interchanges.
(08 Feb 2020, 8:56 pm)Charles41 The 42A is an interesting route especially around the airport running through the green belt and the villages of Dinnington and Prestwick. A good place to change buses is Kingston Park.
Charles
(08 Feb 2020, 8:56 pm)Charles41 The 42A is an interesting route especially around the airport running through the green belt and the villages of Dinnington and Prestwick. A good place to change buses is Kingston Park.
Charles
At Kingston Park you have connections to Newcastle and the Metrocentre. There are also a number of local services operated by Gateshead Central Taxis which are Nexus contracted. Finally there is the free bus from Tesco to the Regent Centre which is paid for by Tesco and operated by Gateshead Central Taxis. It only operates a few times a day. It is now the only bus that serves Regent Farm Road in Gosforth.
Charles
(09 Feb 2020, 10:59 am)JP6004 Believe majority of routes have NSA completed. Obviously only works if you have a vehicle fitted with NSA
(09 Feb 2020, 11:13 am)michaelb Has 5441 moved to Riverside?
(09 Feb 2020, 10:59 am)JP6004 Believe majority of routes have NSA completed. Obviously only works if you have a vehicle fitted with NSA
(09 Feb 2020, 11:13 am)michaelb Has 5441 moved to Riverside?
