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S813 FVK   18 Jul 2017, 5:10 pm
(18 Jul 2017, 5:08 pm)JP6004 wrote

Night services.....altho aren't they both operated by streetlites?

I think the black would correspond with this idea.

I also think that it is a good indication that the B5s are not leaving the 21 anytime soon.
JP6004   18 Jul 2017, 5:16 pm
(18 Jul 2017, 5:10 pm)S813 FVK wrote I think the black would correspond with this idea.

I also think that it is a good indication that the B5s are not leaving the 21 anytime soon.

However i cant see the night services being specially branded as they only about 6 services per week on each route
Ambassador   18 Jul 2017, 5:19 pm
(18 Jul 2017, 5:10 pm)S813 FVK wrote I think the black would correspond with this idea.

I also think that it is a good indication that the B5s are not leaving the 21 anytime soon.

They'd have to be on them first...  Angel Angel Big Grin

Hold out we'll at least got sockets installed. Current vehicle  stock completely outdated. Ah well, X12 it is

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RBZ 5459   18 Jul 2017, 5:24 pm
(18 Jul 2017, 5:16 pm)JP6004 wrote However i cant see the night services being specially branded as they only about 6 services per week on each route

Advertisment promoting the night services - orange and black, green and black.


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Jimmi   18 Jul 2017, 5:27 pm
(18 Jul 2017, 5:08 pm)JP6004 wrote Night services.....altho are both operated by streetlites?


N21 uses B5's.

Judging by the VOSA registration, from September 3rd the N21 will be extended to Durham, South Road College's whilst the N20 is registered as withdrawn from the same date.

There's a photo of the B9 on Facebook and the base coat is in the same style as the Angel, mostly black with either orange or red (difficult to tell) going along the bottom.
RBZ 5459   18 Jul 2017, 5:37 pm
(18 Jul 2017, 5:27 pm)Jimmi wrote N21 uses B5's.

Judging by the VOSA registration, from September 3rd the N21 will be extended to Durham, South Road College's whilst the N20 is registered as withdrawn from the same date.

There's a photo of the B9 on Facebook and the base coat is in the same style as the Angel, mostly black with either orange or red (difficult to tell) going along the bottom.

It is Angel style orange. Which perhaps hints at a 56 brand revision in Angel/Castle Express style, with Angels also very much needing a repaint. The 56s have faded quite badly when you see them next to the Citylink Versa of the same age.


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citaro5284   18 Jul 2017, 5:48 pm
(18 Jul 2017, 5:37 pm)RBZ 5459 wrote It is Angel style orange. Which perhaps hints at a 56 brand revision in Angel/Castle Express style, with Angels also very much needing a repaint. The 56s have faded quite badly when you see them next to the Citylink Versa of the same age.

The Fab56 and Citylink58 are 2 different shades of orange.
Adrian   18 Jul 2017, 6:04 pm
(18 Jul 2017, 5:08 pm)JP6004 wrote Night services.....altho aren't they both operated by streetlites?

Would the best time to advertise night buses not be during the day though, and along their daytime routes?

Might tempt a few more to give it a try, instead of forking out for a taxi. Night bus should still work out cheaper for most journeys.

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Jordan2104   18 Jul 2017, 6:05 pm
Seen 2 see it do it mercs heading to percy main befire. Maybe For port of tyne shuttles?
Coppercap40   18 Jul 2017, 6:40 pm
The fleetlist dated 17 July still shows 5210 as being in Tynedale Links livery  it is now in current fleet livery seen in Hexham last Friday
Ambassador   18 Jul 2017, 7:22 pm
(18 Jul 2017, 6:04 pm)Adrian wrote Would the best time to advertise night buses not be during the day though, and along their daytime routes?

Might tempt a few more to give it a try, instead of forking out for a taxi. Night bus should still work out cheaper for most journeys.

Depends how many of you there are. For one definitely but 2 or more to somewhere like Low Fell or Birtley  and it's the same as daytime fares. Taxis all the way.

Night fares are even weirder than day fares tbh, birtley the same as Chester le Street for one

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Adrian   18 Jul 2017, 7:26 pm
(18 Jul 2017, 7:22 pm)Ambassador wrote Depends how many of you there are. For one definitely but 2 or more and it's the same as daytime fares. Taxis all the way


I'd say even for 4 its still cheaper by bus. Unless you're hugely disciplined and have one drop off, which tends not to happen in my experience?

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JP6004   18 Jul 2017, 7:33 pm
(18 Jul 2017, 5:27 pm)Jimmi wrote N21 uses B5's.

Judging by the VOSA registration, from September 3rd the N21 will be extended to Durham, South Road College's whilst the N20 is registered as withdrawn from the same date.

There's a photo of the B9 on Facebook and the base coat is in the same style as the Angel, mostly black with either orange or red (difficult to tell) going along the bottom.

Im not on facebook......u have a link?
Jimmi   18 Jul 2017, 7:43 pm
(18 Jul 2017, 7:33 pm)JP6004 wrote Im not on facebook......u have a link?

Hope this is okay to post? - photo is from the Simply go north east group by Jack-richard Sparrow
Michael   18 Jul 2017, 7:47 pm
(18 Jul 2017, 7:43 pm)Jimmi wrote Hope this is okay to post? - photo is from the Simply go north east group by Jack-richard Sparrow

Looks smart.

I really think that should be the new 56 brand base, maybe change the orange to red, so:

Black - Newcastle
Red - Sunderland

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Ambassador   18 Jul 2017, 8:51 pm
(18 Jul 2017, 7:26 pm)Adrian wrote I'd say even for 4 its still cheaper by bus. Unless you're hugely disciplined and have one drop off, which tends not to happen in my experience?

I edited my post before you quoted but a black cab to Low Fell is generally a tenner to the door. Birtley about £13. Local cabs are cheaper by £2-£5.

Personally I'd love to see the Q services tried as a night shuttle though I understand the reluctance

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Michael   18 Jul 2017, 9:08 pm
(18 Jul 2017, 8:51 pm)Ambassador wrote I edited my post before you quoted but a black cab to Low Fell is generally a tenner to the door. Birtley about £13. Local cabs are cheaper by £2-£5.

Personally I'd love to see the Q services tried as a night shuttle though I understand the reluctance

Maybe the X1 too.

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Dan   19 Jul 2017, 5:13 am
Night buses in other parts of the country work well, but less so up here in the North East.

Arriva and Stagecoach have not bothered to dip into this market yet, while Go North East has gradually withdrawn its services over the past few years (N58 most recently a few years ago, N97 before that)...

Before any new night bus services are added to the network, I think the two current ones need to 'prove' themselves first, and a bit of growth on both services is required.

Having two specially liveried buses, which form part of the PVR of the daytime equivalent of both services, will promote the night bus services and raise awareness of the 24-hour operation on weekends. I would imagine it is part of a wider marketing campaign and commercial strategy for these routes - VOSA registrations have already suggested that changes are on their way to the N21.

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markydh   19 Jul 2017, 12:41 pm
Stagecoach had night services a few years ago but they only lasted a year or so.
RBZ 5459   19 Jul 2017, 1:11 pm
(19 Jul 2017, 12:41 pm)markydh wrote Stagecoach had night services a few years ago but they only lasted a year or so.

Indeedy they did, the NightRiders. Although just Newcastle locals which ran from Central Station into the early hours back in 2005.
N1 to Longbenton
N11 to West Denton 
N58 to Beacon Lough
N80 to Fawdon


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Michael   19 Jul 2017, 1:16 pm
One of Go North East training coaches is out and about today, just seen it leave Park Lane.

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park5354   19 Jul 2017, 8:30 pm
Just a thought :-

4978-82 to Waggonway

5229-5232 to Service 19, plus 5228 as corporate spare

5377-84/89/90 to Green Arrow
5298-5305 to Citylink 58

5332-36 to Tynedale Express X84/5, and 5292 as spare

5306-09/5328-31 as Loop

5325/26/27 as GNE spare at Riverside

5220-27 to SeeItDoIt

4932/4933/4940/47/49, 4967, 5218, 5219 GNE spare and service 9.

4898/4899/4922/4927/4929/4930/4935/4938/4941/4942/4943/4944/4948 withdrawn
G-CPTN   19 Jul 2017, 9:31 pm
Saw the green TEN (6071) through Corbridge this evening (about 7:15 ish).

Not impressed - nor was my neighbour who got off it.
Jamie M   19 Jul 2017, 9:36 pm
(19 Jul 2017, 8:30 pm)park5354 wrote Just a thought :-

4978-82 to Waggonway

5229-5232 to Service 19, plus 5228 as corporate spare

5377-84/89/90 to Green Arrow
5298-5305 to Citylink 58

5332-36 to Tynedale Express X84/5, and 5292 as spare

5306-09/5328-31 as Loop

5325/26/27 as GNE spare at Riverside

5220-27 to SeeItDoIt

4932/4933/4940/47/49, 4967, 5218, 5219 GNE spare and service 9.

4898/4899/4922/4927/4929/4930/4935/4938/4941/4942/4943/4944/4948 withdrawn

dont the green arrows have to stay because of some agreement?

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LVK 404L   19 Jul 2017, 9:57 pm
(19 Jul 2017, 8:30 pm)park5354 wrote Just a thought :-

4978-82 to Waggonway

5229-5232 to Service 19, plus 5228 as  corporate spare

5377-84/89/90 to Green Arrow
5298-5305 to Citylink 58

5332-36 to Tynedale Express X84/5, and 5292 as spare

5306-09/5328-31 as Loop

5325/26/27 as GNE spare at Riverside

5220-27 to SeeItDoIt

4932/4933/4940/47/49,  4967, 5218, 5219 GNE spare and service 9.

4898/4899/4922/4927/4929/4930/4935/4938/4941/4942/4943/4944/4948 withdrawn
Bit of a reverse pattern on citi link 58 as they had part of the same batch of citaros when they were new before they went bendy.
EL1TE   20 Jul 2017, 10:00 pm
5225 broke down outside of Heworth Cemetery this evening, with one engineer attending it..
Andreos1   21 Jul 2017, 2:29 pm
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?s...3667136163&id=382259835468213

The 8 is famous!

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
L469 YVK   21 Jul 2017, 3:44 pm
(21 Jul 2017, 2:29 pm)Andreos1 wrote https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?s...3667136163&id=382259835468213

The 8 is famous!

There used to be one for Arriva's 356 (now parts of the 53/54). Couldn't put what it said up on here though!
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Michael   21 Jul 2017, 4:26 pm
5464 has decided to stop in front of Subway in Sunderland on Holmeside in the parking area.

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Coppercap40   21 Jul 2017, 5:16 pm
8245 broke down at the junction of Regent St and High St in Gateshead around 4 30 the advert on the side said "Yes You Can"  but obviously it could not !!!
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